This version works on 95B and c,98,ME,NT4 (Haven't tried it on Windows 10), released 7-9-2005:
Alcohol120_retail_1_9_5_3105

DosFreak wrote on 2021-09-30, 14:42:

This version works on 95B and c,98,ME,NT4 (Haven't tried it on Windows 10), released 7-9-2005:
Alcohol120_retail_1_9_5_3105

I know, that's the one I'm using. The problem is it won't read images made with a recent Alcohol 120%. The Alcohol forums are no help and I can't find any info anywhere about what causes this incompatibility.

I use the A120% on my XP machine that Phil posted here: https://www.philscomputerlab.com/daemon-tools … windows-98.html (probably works on 10 as well, wouldn't know since my main PC doesn't have an optical drive hence why I'm using my XP one)

Depending on the game and how it "doesn't work", you could be running into copy protection issues and, depending on what kind of protection it is, will have to tweak alcohol to account for it using the dropdown at the bottom left of the copy window (actually got my copies of Warcraft 3 + FT, as well as SimCity 3k working via images). Supposedly A120% can scan the disk and figure out what kind of protection it uses, but I've been using something else for that so IDK where that option is.

I use Daemon-tools from the same link to mount in 98, though, so no idea if it creates images that your version of A120% can work with. You'd figure things like Bin/Cue or ISO or MDF/MDS would just work. Either way, this might be the route to go when mounting on Win98 if you're going to move the disk ripping to a different machine (plus you'd probably be able to use the A120% tied to that license you just got)

TehGuy wrote on 2021-09-30, 18:46:

I use the A120% on my XP machine that Phil posted here: https://www.philscomputerlab.com/daemon-tools … windows-98.html (probably works on 10 as well, wouldn't know since my main PC doesn't have an optical drive hence why I'm using my XP one)

Depending on the game and how it "doesn't work", you could be running into copy protection issues and, depending on what kind of protection it is, will have to tweak alcohol to account for it using the dropdown at the bottom left of the copy window (actually got my copies of Warcraft 3 + FT, as well as SimCity 3k working via images). Supposedly A120% can scan the disk and figure out what kind of protection it uses, but I've been using something else for that so IDK where that option is.

I use Daemon-tools from the same link to mount in 98, though, so no idea if it creates images that your version of A120% can work with. You'd figure things like Bin/Cue or ISO or MDF/MDS would just work. Either way, this might be the route to go when mounting on Win98 if you're going to move the disk ripping to a different machine (plus you'd probably be able to use the A120% tied to that license you just got)

I have Daemon Tools (Ultimate key) but the Windows 98 version of Daemon Tools is pretty worthless in what it can emulate. Alcohol 120% is far more powerful - so far only Star Trek The Fallen hasn't worked which is why I'd like to try with a more recent version on Windows 10. Daemon Tools was never as good as Alcohol even though it was more common - I mostly used Daemon Tools for mounting images in combination with cracks but my intent is to make CD images that are so good the copy protection doesn't know the difference.

red_avatar wrote on 2021-09-30, 20:47:

I have Daemon Tools (Ultimate key) but the Windows 98 version of Daemon Tools is pretty worthless in what it can emulate. Alcohol 120% is far more powerful - so far only Star Trek The Fallen hasn't worked which is why I'd like to try with a more recent version on Windows 10. Daemon Tools was never as good as Alcohol even though it was more common - I mostly used Daemon Tools for mounting images in combination with cracks but my intent is to make CD images that are so good the copy protection doesn't know the difference.

let me run a few tests real quick

Test 1: So the only type of image Win98 can't run from either DT or Alc is MDS/MDF, which sucks since the only things I have in that format are the games that had copy protection on 'em. ISO and BIN/CUE work fine, even when ripped using a newer version of 120%; it's just MDS/MDF files.

Test 2: Running the same versions between 98 and XP (1.9.5.3105) produces a mountable MDS/MDF pair on both OSes. Tested with Warcraft 3 with datatype set to SecuROM 4/5 as to rip the DRM with the disk, game acts just like it has physical media.

Conclusion: see if 1.9.5.3105 plays nice on windows 10, I cannot fully test this due to no optical drive on my machine

TehGuy wrote on 2021-10-02, 01:50:

Test 1: So the only type of image Win98 can't run from either DT or Alc is MDS/MDF, which sucks since the only things I have in that format are the games that had copy protection on 'em. ISO and BIN/CUE work fine, even when ripped using a newer version of 120%; it's just MDS/MDF files.

Test 2: Running the same versions between 98 and XP (1.9.5.3105) produces a mountable MDS/MDF pair on both OSes. Tested with Warcraft 3 with datatype set to SecuROM 4/5 as to rip the DRM with the disk, game acts just like it has physical media.

Conclusion: see if 1.9.5.3105 plays nice on windows 10, I cannot fully test this due to no optical drive on my machine

It definitely won't work because it's 32bit but thanks for the attempt! I may use my Windows XP machine to rip the images and hope 1.9.5 works properly on XP.