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Reply 560 of 567, by Gamecollector

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konc wrote on 2021-12-31, 16:17:

So the demos of both Fifa & NHL 99 had SGL support but it was removed in the release?

FIFA 99 installs powervra.dll, ragea.dll and veritea.dll. Rage and Verite are forced to d3d in 3ddata.dat. PowerVR isn't. IMHO -- FIFA 99 can be named as SGL compatible.
NHL 99 has powervra.dll, ragea.dll and veritea.dll too. Verite is forced to d3d, Rage isn't affected (this game can use the CIF API). PowerVR isn't listed in 3ddata.dat so this API isn't available. But there is the POWERVR_D3D=0 string...
To force the SGL API -- use "Group"="NEC" and "Thrash Driver"="powervr". Or add the "CARD_PowerVR" string in 3ddata.dat...

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Reply 561 of 567, by Babasha

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Gamecollector wrote on 2021-12-31, 22:54:
FIFA 99 installs powervra.dll, ragea.dll and veritea.dll. Rage and Verite are forced to d3d in 3ddata.dat. PowerVR isn't. IMHO - […]
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konc wrote on 2021-12-31, 16:17:

So the demos of both Fifa & NHL 99 had SGL support but it was removed in the release?

FIFA 99 installs powervra.dll, ragea.dll and veritea.dll. Rage and Verite are forced to d3d in 3ddata.dat. PowerVR isn't. IMHO -- FIFA 99 can be named as GGL compatible.
NHL 99 has powervra.dll, ragea.dll and veritea.dll too. Verite is forced to d3d, Rage isn't affected (this game can use the CIF API). PowerVR isn't listed in 3ddata.dat so this API isn't available. But there is the POWERVR_D3D=0 string...
To force the SGL API -- use "Group"="NEC" and "Thrash Driver"="powervr". Or add the "CARD_PowerVR" string in 3ddata.dat...

What group is for Ati Rage? ATI or Rage, or maybe something other?

Reply 562 of 567, by Gamecollector

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CARD_Ati Rage Pro -- group "ATI", module "rage".
CARD_Rendition V2100/2200 -- "Rendition" + "verite".

P.S. The info is stored in the "HKLM\Software\Electronic Arts\3D Data" registry node by 3ddata.exe. All EASetup 1.x games share this node so there are bugs as the result sometimes (World Cup 98 as the example)...

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Reply 563 of 567, by Gona

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Gamecollector wrote on 2021-12-31, 22:54:

Verite is forced to d3d, Rage isn't affected (this game can use the CIF API).

I have tested Ati 3D CIF and looks OK.

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It uses ati3dcif.dll because if I rename/remove it, the game falls back to software mode (but if I move the D3D files, the game still in 3D).

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Reply 564 of 567, by Gona

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Gona wrote on 2021-05-13, 15:34:
All of the patches I have here: https://gona.mactar.hu/3D/files/ […]
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All of the patches I have here:
https://gona.mactar.hu/3D/files/

But I have no pictures at all. I have attached what I have.
If you send me the pictures too, I will upload them and all links you can replace to "https://gona.mactar.hu/3D/files/XYZ".

I have finished with the overview table/patch download page:
https://gona.mactar.hu/3D/

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Reply 565 of 567, by Babasha

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NHL99 - test it with Win98:

- standard Win98 driver ATI Rage Pro (atir3) - works with ATI CIF
- updated driver ATI XPERT@PLAY 5.40.1 (most compatible ATI CIF driver) - works with ATI CIF

ATI CIF quality and speed are better than D3D (sorting, reflections, transparency)

Reply 566 of 567, by Gamecollector

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More "EA 1998" games:
NBA Live 99: software/d3d/glide. Installs ragea.dll. 3ddata.dat: Verite and Rage are forced to d3d, PowerVR is disabled. Another ATI CIF candidate.
Tiger Woods 99 PGA Tour Golf: d3d/glide. Not installs powervra.dll/ragea.dll/veritea.dll. 3dsetup is coded as a part of the main.exe. Cards.txt: Rage is forced to d3d, PowerVR is disabled. Verite is marked as untested, I not sure about the result...
Triple Play 99: software/glide. Not installs powervra.dll/ragea.dll/veritea.dll. Not uses the full "thrash" engine, the glide api can be enabled from the game menu (similar to NHL 98).

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Reply 567 of 567, by Gona

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I have tested NBA Live 99 on Rage Pro with ATI 3D CIF (I have deleted the D3D switches in 3ddata.dat than I have run 3Dsetup).
It starts with ATI 3D CIF but have bugs some black is missing (hair, shoes, knee pads) and parquet looks bad:

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