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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 58560 of 58568, by MattRocks

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andrea wrote on Yesterday, 17:37:
MattRocks wrote on Yesterday, 15:57:

Here's a monster 24Mb variant fleeting on eBay and already in someone's basket. I assume the 2nd processor is doing the geometry setup that cheap OEM i740s offload to the CPU. Not spam - just fact checked!

The R3D-400 chip is pretending to be an AGP Host.

Or, the R3D chip is pretending to be a Northbridge?

The PCI version can be faster than the AGP version because it pulls textures over the R3D chip from an extra 16Mb of dedicated local VRAM clocked ~100MHz, while cheap AGP versions in 1998 were pulling textures over a Northbridge from shared system RAM clocked at 66MHz. When system RAM exceeded 100MHz, or when DirectX 6 shipped, the i740 was obsolete and no longer advertised.

From the retro review linked below, "Starfighter PCI is 15% slower than its AGP counterpart," but that was comparing onboard ~100MHz VRAM against ~100MHz system RAM on a later Pentium II - interesting but that's not a historically true test. That reviewer concludes, "all the bad press AGP cards got does not seem so justified, at least on my systems," and that underscores that the retro review is not mirroring actual reviews of the era. My view is that a test should be framed as: Should I upgrade the VGA card, or buy a new PC?

The Starfighter PCI was a retail standalone upgrade in 1998, so that fits a 1997 Pentium MMX with 66MHz TX chipset.
The Starfighter AGP belongs to an OEM system integrator's 1998 base build, so that's a Pentium II on 66MHz LX chipset.

When paired to an Intel i430TX with EDO RAM the Starfighter PCI is era accurate and solid, but expensive and rare.

https://vintage3d.org/i740.php

Reply 58561 of 58568, by Antieon

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Went to go pickup a Radeon 9250 128MB PCI for $15.... guy asks me "You do a lot with old computer stuff.... step inside..."

Takes me to his basement (not sketchy at all...) and it is loaded to the brim with old tech, pulls out a few boxes and starts pulling out AGP and PCI graphics cards.

Voodoo 3 2000 PCI
Quadro FX1000 128MB
Rage 128 Pro 16MB
Cirrus Logic 5440 PCI
and a few AOpen CMEDIA Sound Cards.

$70.

All working, just a bit dirty.

Any day you go hunting for old tech and walk out with a 3DFX card for cheap is a good day.

Reply 58562 of 58568, by Ozzuneoj

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Antieon wrote on Today, 02:41:
Went to go pickup a Radeon 9250 128MB PCI for $15.... guy asks me "You do a lot with old computer stuff.... step inside..." […]
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Went to go pickup a Radeon 9250 128MB PCI for $15.... guy asks me "You do a lot with old computer stuff.... step inside..."

Takes me to his basement (not sketchy at all...) and it is loaded to the brim with old tech, pulls out a few boxes and starts pulling out AGP and PCI graphics cards.

Voodoo 3 2000 PCI
Quadro FX1000 128MB
Rage 128 Pro 16MB
Cirrus Logic 5440 PCI
and a few AOpen CMEDIA Sound Cards.

$70.

All working, just a bit dirty.

Any day you go hunting for old tech and walk out with a 3DFX card for cheap is a good day.

That is a nice haul! You have good video cards for several builds there. The Quadro FX1000 is basically a much lower clocked Geforce FX 5800, so is a solid card for Pre-DX9 games.

Also, that is actually a Voodoo3 3000 PCI. Definitely a great find. 😀

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 58563 of 58568, by MattRocks

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Antieon wrote on Today, 02:41:
Went to go pickup a Radeon 9250 128MB PCI for $15.... guy asks me "You do a lot with old computer stuff.... step inside..." […]
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Went to go pickup a Radeon 9250 128MB PCI for $15.... guy asks me "You do a lot with old computer stuff.... step inside..."

Takes me to his basement (not sketchy at all...) and it is loaded to the brim with old tech, pulls out a few boxes and starts pulling out AGP and PCI graphics cards.

Voodoo 3 2000 PCI
Quadro FX1000 128MB
Rage 128 Pro 16MB
Cirrus Logic 5440 PCI
and a few AOpen CMEDIA Sound Cards.

$70.

All working, just a bit dirty.

Any day you go hunting for old tech and walk out with a 3DFX card for cheap is a good day.

Sweet! I've not encountered anyone like that where I live, or we are all too shy to confess? 😉

But I have been watching someone sell off their haul and "won" a GeForce2 Ti - all being well, that will be my "new" fastest DirectX 7 card. I wanted their Pro but fat fingered my bid.

Reply 58564 of 58568, by tehsiggi

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Just got myself another Radeon 9800 Pro from ebay with an Arctic Silencer that is supposed to be artifacting.

I looked at the blurry pictures on ebay and could already tell there is a part missing for CKE of one memory channel. If that's only it, it'll be a very quick fix. For anything else the bracket + silencer is already nice enough. We'll see once it arrives.

AGP Card Real Power Consumption
AGP Power monitor - diagnostic hardware tool
Graphics card repair collection

Reply 58565 of 58568, by Shader_BiH

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Today, I got myself this beautiful All-In-Wonder X800 VE card. It's cooler art is a variation of classic X800 minotaur and I/O shields are in gold color.

As I figured so far, It's like X800 SE card (8 pipes), but with 256-bit DDR3 memory. I assume it's performance is somewhere around 9800XT. (correct me if I'm wrong)

I am curious about that custom ATI IO connector... It seems imposible to find a cable for it. Does anyone know where I might find something like that or what is that connector even called officialy?

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Reply 58566 of 58568, by pixecs

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I bought this today at the flea market:
DELL Optiplex GX150 motherboard with Intel Pentium III SL52R: ~3 EUR
And the following for ~5 EUR (all):
Nvidia TNT2 M64 32MB video card
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SB0570
Creative Sound Blaster Live! SB0100
ATrust SC-5100
Compaq NC3121 network card

Reply 58567 of 58568, by MattRocks

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Shader_BiH wrote on Today, 13:56:

I am curious about that custom ATI IO connector... It seems imposible to find a cable for it. Does anyone know where I might find something like that or what is that connector even called officialy?

It's a later version of the ATI port for breakout cables, and it's an extra compact square to leave space for DVI and VGA ports. It is also the only ATI breakout cable that has a SCART connector for European audio-video devices. I'd suggest setting up an eBay alert for 'SCART ATI breakout cable' or similar.

Photo attached shows the cable feeds VGA, S-Video, 3.5mm jack, and the great big SCART.

Beautiful card btw.

Reply 58568 of 58568, by Shader_BiH

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MattRocks wrote on Today, 21:07:
It's a later version of the ATI port for breakout cables, and it's an extra compact square to leave space for DVI and VGA ports. […]
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Shader_BiH wrote on Today, 13:56:

I am curious about that custom ATI IO connector... It seems imposible to find a cable for it. Does anyone know where I might find something like that or what is that connector even called officialy?

It's a later version of the ATI port for breakout cables, and it's an extra compact square to leave space for DVI and VGA ports. It is also the only ATI breakout cable that has a SCART connector for European audio-video devices. I'd suggest setting up an eBay alert for 'SCART ATI breakout cable' or similar.

Photo attached shows the cable feeds VGA, S-Video, 3.5mm jack, and the great big SCART.

Beautiful card btw.

Thank you very much for the info. I did found out that there are different versions of this cable, X600 AIW for example has same connector but different pin-out and feeds as well. There are probably differences between NTSC and PAL regions, since decoders are different. I will keep my attention on e-bay then. Thanks again 😁