Old_Jelly wrote on 2021-10-12, 16:42:

buckeye wrote on 2021-10-12, 13:37:

Sweet, can we see some benchmarks please?

You know I'm not sure I want to open it really. I mean we know how it performs and I think I want to keep it unopened.

Yeah I was gonna say, doubt you'll want to open it. You can always get another loose 9800 pro to play with. Anything I find new in the box stays that way, except for power supplies and hard drives, since I buy those NOS specifically to use them.

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dionb wrote on 2021-10-12, 22:23:

Found one thing I've been looking for for quite a while:

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ISA VGA + I/O card.

that's neat :3

This just arrived, another NOS Antec power supply. I only like to run new high quality PSUs in my retro systems to make sure the power is good. These were the biz back in the day and it has a very heavy 5V rail.

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Anders- wrote on 2021-10-13, 00:41:

Brawndo wrote on 2021-10-13, 00:37:

This just arrived, another NOS Antec power supply. I only like to run new high quality PSUs in my retro systems to make sure the […]
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This just arrived, another NOS Antec power supply. I only like to run new high quality PSUs in my retro systems to make sure the power is good. These were the biz back in the day and it has a very heavy 5V rail.

I picked the enermax model for my new tbird setup back in the day, it's still working fine though these days it's powering another system.
So if the antec is similar in quality you're in for a good run 😀

Yeah they're top notch, in the same league as Enermax, Sparkle, Zalman, PC Power & Cooling. This is the exact same model I had in my 1.2 GHz Tbird system back in the day and it never let me down.

Anders- wrote on 2021-10-12, 23:46:

dionb wrote on 2021-10-12, 22:23:

Found one thing I've been looking for for quite a while: […]
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Found one thing I've been looking for for quite a while:

16340769031480.jpg

ISA VGA + I/O card.

Performance obviously not the goal here. I have a 486SLC system in tiny flat case with only two ISA slots either side of the shortest excuse for a riser I've ever seen. Currently there's VGA in the one and I/O in the other. Now I can combine that and add sound or networking. The latter would be cool as the system is our game box in the lab at work and seeing this ancient thing on WiFi would turn a few heads 😉

Never heard of a sound and network card, but you know you need to look for one 😁

I have a vague memory of a I/O plus LAN card, and then there were those sound plus vga cards...

Another acquisition from ye olde thrift today, a complete Dell Dimension 8100 tower "designed for Windows 2000" in excellent shape, and man is this tower beefy, and heavy. Specs:

Pentium 4 1.5 GHz
512 MB RDRAM
40 GB Maxtor IDE hard drive
GeForce 2 MX AGP
SC3000 audio (Diamond XtremeSound XS51)
Buffalo AirStation wireless G card
DVD-RW and CD-RW drives

Everything appears to work, and all for five bucks! Not that I really have a use for this, but I guess I can run a 2000 machine or something.

Brawndo wrote on 2021-10-13, 00:37:

This just arrived, another NOS Antec power supply. I only like to run new high quality PSUs in my retro systems to make sure the […]
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This just arrived, another NOS Antec power supply. I only like to run new high quality PSUs in my retro systems to make sure the power is good. These were the biz back in the day and it has a very heavy 5V rail.

Not all of the Truepower models are good. I had one of these in the timeframe of 2003-2004 and had to return (RMA, warranty) it in 2005 because it was defective already. At the time I wasn't the only one experiencing quality problems with Antec. I remember some saying that bad capacitors were the culprit but since my PSU was still in warranty I never opened it up to check.

Anyway, beware of this 😀. My next PSU was a longer lasting Antec Neopower 480 (2005 model that I got back after RMA 😉) but eventually failed years after ... killing my motherboard, too!

Brawndo wrote on 2021-10-13, 04:38:

Everything appears to work, and all for five bucks!

Unbelievable...... I'd never expect a for-profit or even a philanthropist thrift store would have such a low price; only moving sales, selling deceased relative's belongings, or hand-me-down from close friends could I expect such a bargain.

Anders- wrote on 2021-10-12, 23:46:

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Never heard of a sound and network card, but you know you need to look for one 😁

That would indeed be epic. Of course, I could do either via parallel port too, but I hate dongles. Maybe someone did something very creative (pun intended) with one of those mid-1990s DSPs...

Thandor wrote on 2021-10-13, 05:58:

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Not all of the Truepower models are good. I had one of these in the timeframe of 2003-2004 and had to return (RMA, warranty) it in 2005 because it was defective already. At the time I wasn't the only one experiencing quality problems with Antec. I remember some saying that bad capacitors were the culprit but since my PSU was still in warranty I never opened it up to check.

Anyway, beware of this 😀. My next PSU was a longer lasting Antec Neopower 480 (2005 model that I got back after RMA 😉) but eventually failed years after ... killing my motherboard, too!

Yep, Antec was unfortunately notorious for bad caps, despite very good overall design. Replace the caps and they are great, but even NOS, don't trust them as far as you can throw them before re-capping.

dormcat wrote on 2021-10-13, 06:11:

Brawndo wrote on 2021-10-13, 04:38:

Everything appears to work, and all for five bucks!

Unbelievable...... I'd never expect a for-profit or even a philanthropist thrift store would have such a low price; only moving sales, selling deceased relative's belongings, or hand-me-down from close friends could I expect such a bargain.

Yeah I don't know why they price the towers so low, they're almost always $5 for the older ones. They could price it at $30 and it would still get snapped up, just not by me.

A few weeks ago I picked up a Core2Duo system in an Antec case for the same price, and they also had a Server 2008 era HP ProLiant server tower complete for $7, which I did not get, though I wish I had and parted it out or flipped it.

got this to satisfy a curiosity of mine. Will it run on a 440bx... more to come.

Warlord wrote on 2021-10-13, 17:00:

got this to satisfy a curiosity of mine. Will it run on a 440bx... more to come.

From what I understand they do not run on LX or BX chipsets. Really want to be proven wrong, though.

if it does or doesn't I am the guy to prove it.

Brawndo wrote on 2021-10-13, 14:22:

dormcat wrote on 2021-10-13, 06:11:

Brawndo wrote on 2021-10-13, 04:38:

Everything appears to work, and all for five bucks!

Unbelievable...... I'd never expect a for-profit or even a philanthropist thrift store would have such a low price; only moving sales, selling deceased relative's belongings, or hand-me-down from close friends could I expect such a bargain.

Yeah I don't know why they price the towers so low, they're almost always $5 for the older ones. They could price it at $30 and it would still get snapped up, just not by me.

A few weeks ago I picked up a Core2Duo system in an Antec case for the same price, and they also had a Server 2008 era HP ProLiant server tower complete for $7, which I did not get, though I wish I had and parted it out or flipped it.

$30 is about what the Value Village here will put random system units at, though I've seen $80 for systems that aren't too long in the tooth, not sure the criteria, but probably 4-8 years old. I've bought at $30 a few years back, liked the case. They suffer from part strippers though, if you don't get them soon after they go on the floor, some a-hole will have pulled the RAM and CPU and any other small parts, roughly, maybe breaking clips. I know this from examining a few systems when they were "fresh" deciding I didn't want them, then discovering the same system still there a week later picked to the bones, just motherboard and PSU left. Tool-less and thumbscrew designs have their problems on that score. Boxed stuff you've gotta be quick on too, that gets shredded and scattered real quick.

Goodwills haven't had a system unit in years. I think they send to ewaste. Salvation Army seem to put on sale what they get, but don't get much, and pricing is all over the place... though a modernish system might go in their silent auction.

Warlord wrote on 2021-10-13, 17:00:

got this to satisfy a curiosity of mine. Will it run on a 440bx... more to come.

Nice. I have an ASUS adapter I got a while back.. NIB. Came with a BIOS, BIOS update floppy and mounting hardware.

I have a stupid idea to try it and instead of using a PPro CPU, use the Pentiun II 333 Socket 8 overdrive CPU. Heh.

I've had that dream for a long, long, time.

It was so much easier to get the XG-DLS . (Dual slot-2 xeon)

$50 from ewaste. Probably a Mac 128k.

I've never owned a Apple product before, not even an iPhone. So this is new to me.
I wouldn't even know how to approach this, besides cleaning it. I've only dealt with IBM PC compatibles, so this is going to be very different for me.

These are all of the components that I acquired.
-Computer
-Keyboard
-Mouse
-Power cable
-Floppy drive reader

There was also a printer that may have belonged to it, but I didn't feel like taking it.

First thing I would do is crack that Mac open and make sure the half AA battery hasn't done anything unspeakable to the motherboard.