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First post, by Sphere478

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Hey guys, was wanting to find a little heat pipe cooler for my socket 7 system, something where I could see more of the cpu down there, with just a little pad in the middle of the chip. Like something that would cover just the silver part of a celeron/pentium mmx would be perfect.

Doesn’t need to be super big, heck something like a raspberry pi heat pipe cooler would work if it had the right bracket.

Any thoughts?

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Reply 1 of 15, by cyclone3d

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I've thought about using a heatpipe cooler from a laptop on a Socket 7 / SS7 system.

Socket A - you are going to want something a lot more powerful as they don't have thermal protection and the laptop coolers are generally only good to keep 35-45w CPUs around 80c under load... bleh.

My recommendation for Socket A would be something like the Thermaltake Silent Tower or the Thermaltake Silent Tower copper version. You have to have through board mounting holes though.
The regular silent tower is not enough to cool an overclocked high end Socket-A CPU even with a fan on each side in a push/pull configuration.

The attachment Thermaltake_ST_front_01.jpg is no longer available

https://silentpcreview.com/thermaltake-cl-p00 … u-heatsink-fan/

The attachment Thermaltake Tower 112 - ST copper.jpg is no longer available

As for the cooler I am using in my one Socket-A system, it is a Thermaltake Big Typhoon which is good enough to cool a Q6600 to an overclock of about 3.4Ghz or so.

The attachment TT Big Typhoon.jpg is no longer available

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/cpu/heatpipe-ma … c2k5-part2.html - a big roundup that includes the Tower 112 and the Big Typhoon as well as some other high end coolers of the time.

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Reply 2 of 15, by janih

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For Socket A, I would suggest a bigger cooler that blows air downwards to the socket, like these Zalman "flower coolers" or similar: Zalman CNPS7000A Those provide airflow to the voltage regulators and other hot components around the socket.

Reply 3 of 15, by Warlord

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cyclone3d wrote on 2021-11-08, 05:43:
I've thought about using a heatpipe cooler from a laptop on a Socket 7 / SS7 system. […]
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I've thought about using a heatpipe cooler from a laptop on a Socket 7 / SS7 system.

Socket A - you are going to want something a lot more powerful as they don't have thermal protection and the laptop coolers are generally only good to keep 35-45w CPUs around 80c under load... bleh.

My recommendation for Socket A would be something like the Thermaltake Silent Tower or the Thermaltake Silent Tower copper version. You have to have through board mounting holes though.
The regular silent tower is not enough to cool an overclocked high end Socket-A CPU even with a fan on each side in a push/pull configuration.
Thermaltake_ST_front_01.jpg
https://silentpcreview.com/thermaltake-cl-p00 … u-heatsink-fan/
Thermaltake Tower 112 - ST copper.jpg

As for the cooler I am using in my one Socket-A system, it is a Thermaltake Big Typhoon which is good enough to cool a Q6600 to an overclock of about 3.4Ghz or so.
TT Big Typhoon.jpg

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/cpu/heatpipe-ma … c2k5-part2.html - a big roundup that includes the Tower 112 and the Big Typhoon as well as some other high end coolers of the time.

Id be hesitant to mount one without one of those metal shims.

Reply 4 of 15, by Sphere478

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Warlord wrote on 2021-11-08, 06:39:
cyclone3d wrote on 2021-11-08, 05:43:
I've thought about using a heatpipe cooler from a laptop on a Socket 7 / SS7 system. […]
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I've thought about using a heatpipe cooler from a laptop on a Socket 7 / SS7 system.

Socket A - you are going to want something a lot more powerful as they don't have thermal protection and the laptop coolers are generally only good to keep 35-45w CPUs around 80c under load... bleh.

My recommendation for Socket A would be something like the Thermaltake Silent Tower or the Thermaltake Silent Tower copper version. You have to have through board mounting holes though.
The regular silent tower is not enough to cool an overclocked high end Socket-A CPU even with a fan on each side in a push/pull configuration.
Thermaltake_ST_front_01.jpg
https://silentpcreview.com/thermaltake-cl-p00 … u-heatsink-fan/
Thermaltake Tower 112 - ST copper.jpg

As for the cooler I am using in my one Socket-A system, it is a Thermaltake Big Typhoon which is good enough to cool a Q6600 to an overclock of about 3.4Ghz or so.
TT Big Typhoon.jpg

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/cpu/heatpipe-ma … c2k5-part2.html - a big roundup that includes the Tower 112 and the Big Typhoon as well as some other high end coolers of the time.

Id be hesitant to mount one without one of those metal shims.

like gpus have? that's a fery good idea!

well I'm gonna use it on a socket 7 so very small heat load

https://imgaz1.staticbg.com/thumb/large/oaupl … dd592f.jpg.webp

I was wondering about maybe a north bridge cooler? maybe make a torsion clip for it? like the old pentiums used to use

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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 5 of 15, by retardware

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If you are good at metalworks, why not mod an ancient server cooler?
Just cut off some excess metal and attach the thing with strong-adhesive dual sided thermal conductive tape...

See this one together with a modded S7 cooler, with the puny fan replaced by a strong and nevertheless quiet Japanese beamer fan:

(BTW, if you want the server cooler for free (just postage) send me a personal message.)

Reply 7 of 15, by cyclone3d

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Warlord wrote on 2021-11-08, 06:39:
cyclone3d wrote on 2021-11-08, 05:43:
I've thought about using a heatpipe cooler from a laptop on a Socket 7 / SS7 system. […]
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I've thought about using a heatpipe cooler from a laptop on a Socket 7 / SS7 system.

Socket A - you are going to want something a lot more powerful as they don't have thermal protection and the laptop coolers are generally only good to keep 35-45w CPUs around 80c under load... bleh.

My recommendation for Socket A would be something like the Thermaltake Silent Tower or the Thermaltake Silent Tower copper version. You have to have through board mounting holes though.
The regular silent tower is not enough to cool an overclocked high end Socket-A CPU even with a fan on each side in a push/pull configuration.
Thermaltake_ST_front_01.jpg
https://silentpcreview.com/thermaltake-cl-p00 … u-heatsink-fan/
Thermaltake Tower 112 - ST copper.jpg

As for the cooler I am using in my one Socket-A system, it is a Thermaltake Big Typhoon which is good enough to cool a Q6600 to an overclock of about 3.4Ghz or so.
TT Big Typhoon.jpg

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/cpu/heatpipe-ma … c2k5-part2.html - a big roundup that includes the Tower 112 and the Big Typhoon as well as some other high end coolers of the time.

Id be hesitant to mount one without one of those metal shims.

Oh yeah, definitely. I had one I saved from back then and have since gotten a few more that came with other stuff I bought.
https://www.legitreviews.com/what-is-a-shim-a … -you-use-one_64

The attachment tbredbshim.jpg is no longer available
The attachment palminoshim.jpg is no longer available

There were a bunch of different companies that sold them back then. Just have to make sure you have one that is correct for your CPU.

Yamaha modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG repository
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Reply 8 of 15, by cyclone3d

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retardware wrote on 2021-11-08, 08:23:
If you are good at metalworks, why not mod an ancient server cooler? Just cut off some excess metal and attach the thing with st […]
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If you are good at metalworks, why not mod an ancient server cooler?
Just cut off some excess metal and attach the thing with strong-adhesive dual sided thermal conductive tape...

See this one together with a modded S7 cooler, with the puny fan replaced by a strong and nevertheless quiet Japanese beamer fan:

(BTW, if you want the server cooler for free (just postage) send me a personal message.)

Thermal conductive tape sucks at actually conducting heat. I tried for weeks to find some that was actually worth anything and even the industrial mfgs don't have anything that would even be as good as using cheese.

Yamaha modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG repository
YMF7x4 Guide
Aopen AW744L II SB-LINK

Reply 9 of 15, by Sphere478

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cyclone3d wrote on 2021-11-08, 14:24:
Oh yeah, definitely. I had one I saved from back then and have since gotten a few more that came with other stuff I bought. http […]
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Warlord wrote on 2021-11-08, 06:39:
cyclone3d wrote on 2021-11-08, 05:43:
I've thought about using a heatpipe cooler from a laptop on a Socket 7 / SS7 system. […]
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I've thought about using a heatpipe cooler from a laptop on a Socket 7 / SS7 system.

Socket A - you are going to want something a lot more powerful as they don't have thermal protection and the laptop coolers are generally only good to keep 35-45w CPUs around 80c under load... bleh.

My recommendation for Socket A would be something like the Thermaltake Silent Tower or the Thermaltake Silent Tower copper version. You have to have through board mounting holes though.
The regular silent tower is not enough to cool an overclocked high end Socket-A CPU even with a fan on each side in a push/pull configuration.
Thermaltake_ST_front_01.jpg
https://silentpcreview.com/thermaltake-cl-p00 … u-heatsink-fan/
Thermaltake Tower 112 - ST copper.jpg

As for the cooler I am using in my one Socket-A system, it is a Thermaltake Big Typhoon which is good enough to cool a Q6600 to an overclock of about 3.4Ghz or so.
TT Big Typhoon.jpg

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/cpu/heatpipe-ma … c2k5-part2.html - a big roundup that includes the Tower 112 and the Big Typhoon as well as some other high end coolers of the time.

Id be hesitant to mount one without one of those metal shims.

Oh yeah, definitely. I had one I saved from back then and have since gotten a few more that came with other stuff I bought.
https://www.legitreviews.com/what-is-a-shim-a … -you-use-one_64
tbredbshim.jpg
palminoshim.jpg

There were a bunch of different companies that sold them back then. Just have to make sure you have one that is correct for your CPU.

Looks like it’s in contact with those smd

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
-
SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
-
Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 10 of 15, by cyclone3d

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Sphere478 wrote on 2021-11-08, 23:56:
cyclone3d wrote on 2021-11-08, 14:24:
Oh yeah, definitely. I had one I saved from back then and have since gotten a few more that came with other stuff I bought. http […]
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Warlord wrote on 2021-11-08, 06:39:

Id be hesitant to mount one without one of those metal shims.

Oh yeah, definitely. I had one I saved from back then and have since gotten a few more that came with other stuff I bought.
https://www.legitreviews.com/what-is-a-shim-a … -you-use-one_64
tbredbshim.jpg
palminoshim.jpg

There were a bunch of different companies that sold them back then. Just have to make sure you have one that is correct for your CPU.

Looks like it’s in contact with those smd

Yeah, the one in the second pic does look sketchy. Later ones were made so they would work with any of the socket A CPUs.

Yamaha modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG repository
YMF7x4 Guide
Aopen AW744L II SB-LINK

Reply 11 of 15, by BitWrangler

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If it's touching the ground plane of those caps it reduces your TEMPEST emissions 🤣

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 12 of 15, by Sphere478

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BitWrangler wrote on 2021-11-09, 00:33:

If it's touching the ground plane of those caps it reduces your TEMPEST emissions 🤣

I was wondering if the manufacturer just so happened to know that those were ground sides or not. If so, should be fine, and keep it in place 🤣.

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
-
Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 13 of 15, by Ydee

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Sphere478 wrote on 2021-11-08, 23:56:

Looks like it’s in contact with those smd

That's shim for Palomino core, that didn't have any SMD parts on the surface.

Thermalright HR-05, which can also be fitted with a fan, should also be sufficient to cool the CPU in s.3/7. I originally bought it once for nForce4 chipset, and it's left over. Only the buckle for attaching to the socket has to be used from another cooler and bent to avoid being too overstepped - the cooler has a higher base. I'm thinking of trying it out on some AMD K6-2 boards.

Reply 14 of 15, by Doornkaat

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Ydee wrote on 2021-11-09, 14:36:
Sphere478 wrote on 2021-11-08, 23:56:

Looks like it’s in contact with those smd

That's shim for Palomino core, that didn't have any SMD parts on the surface.

Thermalright HR-05, which can also be fitted with a fan, should also be sufficient to cool the CPU in s.3/7. I originally bought it once for nForce4 chipset, and it's left over. Only the buckle for attaching to the socket has to be used from another cooler and bent to avoid being too overstepped - the cooler has a higher base. I'm thinking of trying it out on some AMD K6-2 boards.

I always wanted to glue one of those tower style chipset coolers to a 386 or486. Not for practical reasons, just for looks. 😄