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First post, by wbahnassi

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Hi guys, I've got this magnificent Packard Bell Multimedia PC working beautifully:

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Its model number is PB400. It has a 486SX 25MHz processor and a 170MB HDD. It also has onboard Oak VGA and originally includes a TV tuner card (which I replaced with an ATI VGA Wonder here, and added a CF2IDE card to the back).
Its original sound card is SB Pro CT1600 with the 1x Creative CDROM with caddy using Panasonic (or Sony, I dont know) connector on the SB Pro card.

The HDD still has the original OEM software with Windows 3.1 that has the Packard Bell logo on startup. I tried searching for the recovery CD/disk for this PC but couldn't find specifically this model. I want to format it and start fresh since the PC was obviously used for quite a while and has some errors in Windows here and there.

Any pointers to this PC's recovery software would be highly appreciated.

Cheers!

Turbo XT 12MHz, EGA, MFM HDD
Intel 386 DX-33, Speedstar 24X, SB 1.5, 1x CD
Intel 486 DX2-66, CL5428 VLB, SBPro 2, 2x CD
IBM BlueLightning 100MHz, CL5428, SB16, 4x CD
Intel Pentium 90, Matrox Millenium 2, SB16, 4x CD
HP Z400, Xeon 3.46GHz, YMF-744, RTX2060

Reply 1 of 3, by dormcat

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wbahnassi wrote on 2021-11-09, 01:52:

Its original sound card is SB Pro CT1600 with the 1x Creative CDROM with caddy using Panasonic (or Sony, I dont know) connector on the SB Pro card.

That's the same pair of sound card / CD-ROM I had 28 years ago. To be more exact, the CD-ROM was a rebadged Panasonic / Matsushita-Kotobuki CR-521-C.

However, I wouldn't hold my breath for an official recovery CD, as the CD-ROM interface was proprietary and not ATAPI compatible, and BIOS supporting bootable CD came even later. The Dell XPS Pentium I bought in 1995 that came with NEC CDR-273 4x ATAPI CD-ROM provided no recovery CD but the MS Win95 CD-ROM plus some floppy disks for drivers and utilities, although contents of those floppies could still be downloaded from Dell's official website.

If Packard Bell was really caring its customers, a workable recovery CD must have an accompanying bootable floppy with necessary driver (namely, SBPCD.SYS) and MSCDEX.EXE to start the CD-ROM, then run the recovery program on CD to return the system back to factory presets.

Reply 2 of 3, by wbahnassi

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I've seen some recovery CDs for other Packard Bell PC models on the internetz, and yes, they come with a floppy disk to boot and init the CD drive. I expect this model to be no different.

Speaking of the drive, it doesn't recognize my CD-RW disc. Haven't tried it with CD-R though, hopefully it works. Worst case, I have the CF Card which I can copy the recovery CD contents to and start them from there.

Turbo XT 12MHz, EGA, MFM HDD
Intel 386 DX-33, Speedstar 24X, SB 1.5, 1x CD
Intel 486 DX2-66, CL5428 VLB, SBPro 2, 2x CD
IBM BlueLightning 100MHz, CL5428, SB16, 4x CD
Intel Pentium 90, Matrox Millenium 2, SB16, 4x CD
HP Z400, Xeon 3.46GHz, YMF-744, RTX2060

Reply 3 of 3, by dormcat

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I see. It's those "Master CD" on Internet Archive, like this one.

More info available at http://pbplanet.info/wiki/index.php/Packard_Bell_Master_CDs

wbahnassi wrote on 2021-11-09, 12:13:

Speaking of the drive, it doesn't recognize my CD-RW disc. Haven't tried it with CD-R though, hopefully it works. Worst case, I have the CF Card which I can copy the recovery CD contents to and start them from there.

CD-RW was commercially available in 1997, at least four years later than CR-521-C, so it's natural for the drive not recognizing CD-RW discs with low reflection ratio.