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First post, by vorob

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So we've got this shooter, Vietcong, and its expansion - Fist Alpha. I've installed it all properly, applied the official patch, and play in on a relatively powerful machine: Intel Core Duo T2400, 2gb ram, mobile ATI X1900 and Win XP SP3.

And, well, the performance of this game sucks. On some missions, it can be about 20 fps. Tried smth called Vietcong Starter but it did nothing in terms of performance.

I don't get it. It's a game from 2002. I'm launching it on a powerful laptop from 2006 and it runs like a potato sometimes.

Reply 1 of 16, by matze79

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i once played this on GeForce 2MX and it ran fast so you should consider you have some compatibility issues here.

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Reply 2 of 16, by vorob

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I also think it's weird.

Found location where i have 24fps. Changed from 1400x900 to 1024x768 and no change in fps. Tried lowering/changing different settings and no luck. Changed cpu speed from 1800 to 900 and fps dropped from 24 to 16. Installed Vietcong Starter 1.65.1 and no luck.

Reply 5 of 16, by Errius

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I'm playing this game now on my main Windows 8.1 rig. It's crazy hard even on average difficulty. Is this normal, or does the AI become deadlier on fast machines?

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Reply 7 of 16, by vorob

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Pierre32 wrote on 2021-11-20, 10:40:

Curiosity piqued. I'm going to try it on my PIII 1ghz with MX440.

Thanks, try new game in 1024x768, same scene. That's what i have:

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Left one is pentium m 1600mhz with geforce 4200 and right one is core duo 1800mhz with ati x1900.

If you need I can upload the game, no need for install.

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Reply 8 of 16, by vorob

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Errius wrote on 2021-11-20, 10:34:

I'm playing this game now on my main Windows 8.1 rig. It's crazy hard even on average difficulty. Is this normal, or does the AI become deadlier on fast machines?

This game was always hard as hell. I don’t remember how it worked back then on my pc but I remember is was cracking my ass in gameplay 😁

Reply 10 of 16, by Pierre32

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vorob wrote on 2021-11-20, 10:42:
Thanks, try new game in 1024x768, same scene. That's what i have: […]
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Pierre32 wrote on 2021-11-20, 10:40:

Curiosity piqued. I'm going to try it on my PIII 1ghz with MX440.

Thanks, try new game in 1024x768, same scene. That's what i have:

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Left one is pentium m 1600mhz with geforce 4200 and right one is core duo 1800mhz with ati x1900.

If you need I can upload the game, no need for install.

Finally got around to installing this to test. Correction to my previously mentioned spec: The CPU currently installed is a PIII 933mhz, with 256MB RAM,and a PCI MX440 64MB.

Note also that I'm running the base game only, not the Fist Alpha expansion.

Desktop res is 1024x768 so I started the game on that. Left all graphics settings at their defaults. In the intro / base level, I'm lucky to get 15fps. Winding graphics sliders to their minimums brought little if any improvement. I restarted the game in 800x600 with all the minimum settings I could manage. And even then, no real improvement!

Nvidia drivers are 45.23. I could experiment with others, but to be honest my system is singing so nicely with everything else at the moment that I don't want to rock the boat.

Reply 11 of 16, by Dancsi40

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have you tried the solutions from this page : https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Vietcong

Quote from the site "Most compatibility and performance issues with new systems (Windows Vista and later) can be fixed in the VCStarter tool"

Reply 14 of 16, by Dancsi40

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did you installed the latest patch from https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Vietcong (version 1.60) 😀 ?

I know that you applied the official patch, but which version, as they are 3 (1.3, 1.41 and 1.60)

you can always try DgVoodoo for Win98/XP/2000 : http://dege.freeweb.hu/dgVoodoo/

vorob wrote on 2021-11-19, 21:39:

So we've got this shooter, Vietcong, and its expansion - Fist Alpha. I've installed it all properly, applied the official patch, and play in on a relatively powerful machine: Intel Core Duo T2400, 2gb ram, mobile ATI X1900 and Win XP SP3.

And, well, the performance of this game sucks. On some missions, it can be about 20 fps. Tried smth called Vietcong Starter but it did nothing in terms of performance.

I don't get it. It's a game from 2002. I'm launching it on a powerful laptop from 2006 and it runs like a potato sometimes.

Reply 15 of 16, by vorob

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Yep, i've got 1.60 patch. But this doesn't matter cause same crap performance is under Demo. Only lowering the Catalyst version helped a bit. Maybe under even older driver performance will be good.

Reply 16 of 16, by Dancsi40

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OK, I see, yeah sometimes a different GPU driver can solve the problem

vorob wrote on 2021-12-22, 20:22:

Yep, i've got 1.60 patch. But this doesn't matter cause same crap performance is under Demo. Only lowering the Catalyst version helped a bit. Maybe under even older driver performance will be good.