VOGONS


Reply 61 of 106, by cyclone3d

User metadata
Rank l33t++
Rank
l33t++
RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2021-09-13, 23:15:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233927457618?hash=it … 9cAAOSwbe1fjmvg

Someone is making those for Voodoo enthusiasts. They have PCI 1.1, as well as 2.0.

Nice. They aren't for the different PCI versions, they just have their old version and the new version that lets you close the case properly since the ago card is set back. I do wonder how bad that little vga extension Hurts the video signal though.

Yamaha YMF modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG resource repository - updated November 27, 2018
Yamaha YMF7x4 Guide
AW744L II - YMF744 - AOpen Cobra Sound Card - Install SB-Link Header

Reply 62 of 106, by masterdeejay

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2021-09-13, 23:15:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233927457618?hash=it … 9cAAOSwbe1fjmvg

Someone is making those for Voodoo enthusiasts. They have PCI 1.1, as well as 2.0.

I have one of this agp to pci but the older v1.1 version. I have tried a lot of cards, all of them works. (Voodoo3 2000, 3000, Fx5500, FX5600, Ati 9600XT, 7600GS AGP)
Voodoo3 AGP card works with Unreal Gold Glide mode in PCIe slot and 18 Core Xeon E5-2686v3 Cpu and Windows 7 64bit.
So it is not only for 3DFX cards.
Only problem is that the vrm part needs cooling. I use with a pci to pcie (Asmedia 1083) adapter and a riser (like an external video card) in the newer motherboards.

Attachments

  • v3.jpg
    Filename
    v3.jpg
    File size
    204.46 KiB
    Views
    647 views
    File license
    Public domain
  • 2.jpg
    Filename
    2.jpg
    File size
    230.4 KiB
    Views
    648 views
    File license
    Public domain
  • 1.jpg
    Filename
    1.jpg
    File size
    148.48 KiB
    Views
    648 views
    File license
    Public domain

Reply 63 of 106, by digger

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2021-09-13, 23:15:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233927457618?hash=it … 9cAAOSwbe1fjmvg

Someone is making those for Voodoo enthusiasts. They have PCI 1.1, as well as 2.0.

Isn't at least PCI 2.1 required in order to support 66 MHz, though? Or is that just incorrect information on Wikipedia? 🤔

Reply 64 of 106, by cyclone3d

User metadata
Rank l33t++
Rank
l33t++
digger wrote on 2021-09-14, 17:09:
RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2021-09-13, 23:15:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233927457618?hash=it … 9cAAOSwbe1fjmvg

Someone is making those for Voodoo enthusiasts. They have PCI 1.1, as well as 2.0.

Isn't at least PCI 2.1 required in order to support 66 MHz, though? Or is that just incorrect information on Wikipedia? 🤔

The version doesn't related to the PCI version but to the version of the adapter.

Yamaha YMF modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG resource repository - updated November 27, 2018
Yamaha YMF7x4 Guide
AW744L II - YMF744 - AOpen Cobra Sound Card - Install SB-Link Header

Reply 65 of 106, by Sphere478

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
sdz wrote on 2020-09-23, 17:51:
Something like this? […]
Show full quote

Something like this?

20200624_184104.resized-1024x365.png
20200624_1841042.resized-1024x365.png

Even made a bracket for the V5 😀
20200624_183901-1024x665.jpg
20200624_183924-1024x634.jpg

I designed it a couple of months ago, AGP 1.0 1x (3.3V only), 4 layer board with uninterrupted ground plane under PCI signals, properly terminated unused AGP signals, 12V PCIe power input, 3.3V/5V switching power supplies which can deliver more power than the AGP specs require, separately filtered AGP VIO, high speed level shifters, it can work in any 3.3V/5V PCI slots, 33/66MHz jumper (if the mobo supports PCI 66MHz ofc), 2 fan headers with support for 5V/12V 3pin/4pin fans and adjustable PWM.

I’d like to get one of these. Any chance you could hook me up?

Sphere's PCB projects.
-
Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
-
SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
-
Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 66 of 106, by Kahenraz

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

I have one of Wongo's AGP-PCI adapters I purchased a few years ago. I suspect this is almost exclusively a Voodoo 4/5 product since these are effectively just PCI cards with an AGP card edge.

Here are some photos.

242480890_131900695825519_2283427922397800020_n.jpg
Filename
242480890_131900695825519_2283427922397800020_n.jpg
File size
74.03 KiB
Views
445 views
File license
Fair use/fair dealing exception
242600736_160106592971122_2537081359091512310_n.jpg
Filename
242600736_160106592971122_2537081359091512310_n.jpg
File size
48.41 KiB
Views
445 views
File license
Fair use/fair dealing exception
242357832_377421707388864_3346653429996715304_n.jpg
Filename
242357832_377421707388864_3346653429996715304_n.jpg
File size
126.33 KiB
Views
445 views
File license
Fair use/fair dealing exception
242464571_237154061706653_1089191705565244051_n.jpg
Filename
242464571_237154061706653_1089191705565244051_n.jpg
File size
69.2 KiB
Views
445 views
File license
Fair use/fair dealing exception
Last edited by Kahenraz on 2021-12-13, 03:51. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 67 of 106, by sdz

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
Sphere478 wrote on 2021-12-11, 06:19:

I’d like to get one of these. Any chance you could hook me up?

Sorry, really don't have the time to make new boards now. Also, there is a high chance that the board isn't manufacturable at the moment due to the global IC shortage.
If you want, I can send you a blank PCB and the schematics/BOM.

Reply 68 of 106, by Sphere478

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
sdz wrote on 2021-12-12, 23:01:
Sphere478 wrote on 2021-12-11, 06:19:

I’d like to get one of these. Any chance you could hook me up?

Sorry, really don't have the time to make new boards now. Also, there is a high chance that the board isn't manufacturable at the moment due to the global IC shortage.
If you want, I can send you a blank PCB and the schematics/BOM.

That would be great! 😀 pm me

Sphere's PCB projects.
-
Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
-
SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
-
Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 69 of 106, by luckybob

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

With all the people here talking about pci adapters, this seems like a natural place to ask: Ddoes anyone have a PCI-X to PCI-E adapter, and/or know where I can get 3-4 of them?

they look like this: https://www.pridopia.co.uk/8114.html (BTW They havent returned any of my emails)

This is the major holdup for a super-awesome retro rig project, unless someone is SUPER generous to lend me 3x pci- voodoo 5's.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 70 of 106, by sdz

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

That would be great! 😀 pm me

Will send PM shortly.

luckybob wrote on 2021-12-13, 01:30:

With all the people here talking about pci adapters, this seems like a natural place to ask: Ddoes anyone have a PCI-X to PCI-E adapter, and/or know where I can get 3-4 of them?

they look like this: https://www.pridopia.co.uk/8114.html (BTW They havent returned any of my emails)

This is the major holdup for a super-awesome retro rig project, unless someone is SUPER generous to lend me 3x pci- voodoo 5's.

There aren't many PCI-X to PCI-E adapters out there. The IC I used on this PCI-E to PCI adapter ( download/file.php?id=98170&mode=view ) also supports PCI-X and is reversible, so one could design a PCI-X to PCI-E adapter with it. The IC is PI7C9X130 . Pretty much 0 stock worldwide though.

Reply 72 of 106, by darry

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
luckybob wrote on 2021-12-13, 01:30:

With all the people here talking about pci adapters, this seems like a natural place to ask: Ddoes anyone have a PCI-X to PCI-E adapter, and/or know where I can get 3-4 of them?

they look like this: https://www.pridopia.co.uk/8114.html (BTW They havent returned any of my emails)

This is the major holdup for a super-awesome retro rig project, unless someone is SUPER generous to lend me 3x pci- voodoo 5's.

Do you need the actual full bandwidth of the PCI-X slot to be available to the PCI Express device that you want to use in the PCI-X slot ?

Even the quite common PLX PEX8111 converter chip, used in many common PCI to PCI Express adapters, supports 32-bit at up to 66MHz (which I believe would work at 66MHz in a PCI-X slot, someone please correct me if I am wrong), which would give up to 266Megabytes per second . That's pretty close to PCI Express 1.x at x1 (single lane), except for the lack of full duplex (which PCI-X does not support either, AFAIK) .

https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/678/EX8111 … Oct05-15087.pdf

Reply 74 of 106, by luckybob

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

short answer, yes. While each device i plan to use, will have peak usage that will greatly benefit of the additional bandwidth, but it will be a peak. I don't expect actual usage to be that aggressive.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 75 of 106, by BitWrangler

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

You're trying to break the record of 475 Bungholio Marks aren't you?

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 76 of 106, by luckybob

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

heh, something like that. I don't want to share too many details, but this has been my white whale since I got into retro computing. The adapters are actually a backup of a backup plan. A plan that is more and more likely to be final result.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 77 of 106, by NJRoadfan

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

Anyone with one of these adapters have an AGP ATI All-in-Wonder card? Curious if the card including video capture works on them. No real need for the 3D part to work properly.

Reply 78 of 106, by BitWrangler

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

Is there something special about Rage all in wonders for capture? There used to seem to be tons of graphicless TV wonder PCI cards around with just the tuner/capture hardware one.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.