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This thread will be dedicated for motherboard submissions on theretroweb.com.
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Reply 1 of 64, by snufkin

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Been trying (and not yet succeeding) to help get a board working, but came across a set of boards on Ultimate Retro that might help with an edit. The boards are:
https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/6714 -listed as ATRONICS INTERNATIONAL, INC. Master
https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/5461 -listed as Impression 786 ACIO VESA MOTHERBOARD
https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/9801 -listed as Unknown "MASTER REV.A-3" (says 72 pin SIMMs, should be 30 pins)
https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/5462 -listed as Impression 786 ACIO VESA (VER. 2)

All 4 boards are very similar, marked as "COPYRIGHT 1993, MASTER REV.A-3, U.S.A.", but the jumpers around the 386 socket are slightly different for the first two compared with the second two.
Crazytiti has been able to read their BIOS, and their board looks like it matches the layout of the first two: http://crazytiti.free.fr/divers/AMIBIOS%20486 … 115%20c1992.rom

They all have the USA SC-9204-A chipset, with slightly different interrupt chips (UMC UM82C206F on the Crazytiti's, SIS 85C206 on the "Unknown "MASTER REV.A-3"").

BreakPoint has a very similar board, except it's marked "COPYRIGHT 1992, MASTER REV.B, U.S.A.": http://f5soft.com/pics/2019-11/1.JPG . So a year earlier, but revision B rather than revision A-3. Jumpers are a bit different, but apparently the BIOS from Crazytiti's rev A-3 has worked in the B. It also has the SC-9204-A chipset, but with a Samsung KS83C206Q.

Maybe all of the interrupt controllers are pin compatible (UM82C206F, 85C206, KS83C206Q)?

[edit: Oh, and I think all entries should have an 'also known as' "MASTER REV" for people searching on that]
Threads:
Looking for bios for USA Integrations sc-9204
Try to fix old 786 ACIO VESA 386/486 Motherboard

Not sure how best to proceed here. It feels like there are 3 versions of the board: the first pair (REV.A-3), the second pair (REV.A-3 ver 2) and BreakPoint's REV.B. So maybe the "ATRONICS INTERNATIONAL, INC. Master" should be folded in to "Impression 786 ACIO VESA MOTHERBOARD", along with Crazytiti's photos, and "Unknown "MASTER REV.A-3"" folded in to "Impression 786 ACIO VESA (VER. 2)". And a new entry for BreakPoint's board. I don't know where the name Impression 786 ACIO VESA , or ATRONICS, is coming from, so based on the manual (see just below) maybe "786 AIO VL-BUS 3486 MASTER REV.B". Bit of a mouthful, but should help for people searching on when that can see on the board silkscreen.

Mind that the Atronics entry does have a BIOS string listed: 40-1200-00156-00101111-060692-USA-9204-H. Which doesn't match Crazytity's (in particular the manufacturer code): 40-1200-001805-00101111-060692-USA-9204. So who knows if they are actually the same board.

Lastly... The manuals given for download for both the 786 ACIO boards looks to actually be for BreakPoint's board, based on the location of the jumpers and the 14.318 crystal in the manual's diagram. So that should probably be attached to that entry, and maybe a note on the other two that a manual for a similiar board is available. The MTL jumper page for the non-Ver.2 and the TH99 page for the Ver.2 do seem to match, so they should stay where they are.

And I've just realised that that manual has a pinout for the SC-9204-A, which might be useful.

[edit: oh, and maybe they should all have "MASTER REV" as an 'also known as' for people searching for that]

Reply 2 of 64, by stamasd

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I think the board I'm presenting in this thread: A nice late socket7 motherboard: PCPartner TXB820DS 35-8333-03 would be a good addition. It's a variation of this board already present on the website https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/5962 with a different clock generator which gives a greater choice of FSB. All the pictures in that thread were taken by me personally.
If you want I can also dump the bios and attach it here.

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 3 of 64, by evasive

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@snufkin :
https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/5461 REV.A
https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/5462 REV.A-3
https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/10290 REV.B
if anything needs to be changed/fixed, let me know

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Reply 4 of 64, by evasive

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stamasd wrote on 2022-01-19, 19:48:

I think the board I'm presenting in this thread: A nice late socket7 motherboard: PCPartner TXB820DS 35-8333-03 would be a good addition. It's a variation of this board already present on the website https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/5962 with a different clock generator which gives a greater choice of FSB. All the pictures in that thread were taken by me personally.
If you want I can also dump the bios and attach it here.

Done and yes, bios dump welcome.

Reply 5 of 64, by snufkin

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evasive wrote on 2022-01-19, 20:37:
https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/5461 REV.A https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/5462 REV.A-3 https://www. […]
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https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/5461 REV.A
https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/5462 REV.A-3
https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/10290 REV.B
if anything needs to be changed/fixed, let me know

Great, thanks, I think that makes sense. Only thing I can see is one of the two photos on the 5462, the one with the USA flag on the 206 chip, should go with 5461. It's got the extra jumpers on the board edge by the 386 socket. I don't know if it matters, but the BIOS listed on all three originally came from the 5461 board, but it does apparently work with the 10290 board.

Reply 6 of 64, by stamasd

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evasive wrote on 2022-01-19, 20:50:

Done and yes, bios dump welcome.

I've attached the file to the original thread

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 8 of 64, by ChrisK

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Some socket 4 board pictures:

Gigabyte GA-586IS (REV 3):
https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/2742

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ECS SI5PI AIO (REV. 1.1):
https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/2180

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Reply 9 of 64, by ChrisK

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BIOS for

Tulip TC40:
https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/5072

Original download link:
https://web.archive.org/web/20070122114635/ht … rmimm/bios.html

TLPINF.EXE is included in attached zip.

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Reply 10 of 64, by stamasd

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I found an undocumented jumper setting for the PCPartner TXB820DS for Cyrix CPUs: how to set a multiplier of 1x. May be of interest for someone who wants to underclock the CPU, and perhaps worth adding to that motherboard's page. A nice late socket7 motherboard: PCPartner TXB820DS 35-8333-03

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 11 of 64, by evasive

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Grem Five wrote on 2022-01-19, 22:21:

https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/3753 - Micronics Dual Fortress

Board picture with VRM module for dual processors installed.

Thank you

Reply 14 of 64, by Grem Five

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It would be nice if there was an page for the Intel T440BX (NL440BX) board. There is a page for the Intel N440BX (Nightshade) board and this one is very close except instead of dual processor its single and was known as Nightshade Lite

There is sort of one already with Siemens Nixdorf System Board D1097 (Intel NL440BX/T440BX OEM) https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/4520 but as the system in my collection is built by another company it was harder to find a page on the board since I looked under Intel.

I can provide a picture of the board in a week or two when I get finished sorting the system out.

T440BX (NL440BX) production BIOS is NITELT0.86B.0048.P12 (version 12) and it can support PIII cpus up to (not including) coppermine core, that page above only lists PII.

A bit of wayback info here

Reply 15 of 64, by GigAHerZ

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https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/3059

Based on my research here: Chipset datasheet for M321 (PC Chips) [Found chipset! OPTi 82C391]

I would suggest some additions/changes.

Alternative name: Ilon M-321
Chipset chips: OPTi 82C391 + OPTi 82C392 (+ UM82C206)
Cache: I would add some kind of "tag" that it supports writeback when U32 is populated.
BIOS: V020B324 from MR-BIOS pack is available for this board (1.65 and 1.30)

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - And i intend to get every last bit out of it even after loading every damn driver!

Reply 17 of 64, by computerguy08

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Grem Five wrote on 2022-01-26, 02:54:

It would be nice if there was an page for the Intel T440BX (NL440BX) board. There is a page for the Intel N440BX (Nightshade) board and this one is very close except instead of dual processor its single and was known as Nightshade Lite

Modified the existing page and added aliases for both Intel and Siemens + new specs.

Grem Five wrote on 2022-01-26, 22:33:

Cant believe someone hasnt submitted this one yet.
Supermicro P6DGS https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/4742

Added picture.

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