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First post, by khyypio

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I put together a Pentium 4-powered Windows 98 rig for my friend, here´s video: https://youtu.be/RovaAexIdJc

I did a a full recap for the motherboard and gave all the plastic parts in the front a fancy new paintjob! The main components in this build:
- Abit IS7-E
- GeForce FX5500
- 2 Gb RAM
- Sound Blaster Live! SB0100
- 120 Gb SSD

And here´s some pictures:

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Reply 1 of 7, by khyypio

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Reply 2 of 7, by pinesal

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Good call on painting the case. Looks better as one color.

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Reply 3 of 7, by Cuttoon

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Wow, really nice job on the case there. Any repainted part I ever came by looked like shit but you obviously know what you're doing.

But does Win98 care about the 2 GB of RAM? Think there's not much of a difference beyond 512 MB, iirc.

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Reply 4 of 7, by chinny22

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I'd of gone with an Audigy 2 ZS for the "final XP era" type build.
but honestly Live! is fine and makes perfect sense if on a budget or just for a friend.

Next you need to start visiting each other and having 9x LAN parties again! 😀

Reply 5 of 7, by keropi

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nice one!
I also have a 2.4ghz p4 system for some power w98SE gaming - but it's a system I fire up once or twice per year...
still it is great to have max power and get nice fps in games

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Reply 6 of 7, by leileilol

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Cuttoon wrote on 2022-03-22, 19:35:

Think there's not much of a difference beyond 512 MB, iirc.

The instability's a big difference. Seeing the WinME scheme on a Win98 build also implies one of those unstable 'service packs'....

If you cut the ram to 512MB and HDD than SDD, then you'd get something period correct. XP hesitancy was a thing. However i'd highly advise 512MB as a max anyway, as there won't be any Win9x games that want that much (or even 512MB to begin with). 2GB hungry games are more of a 2007+ XP SP3/Vista happening, IIRC Supreme Commander was a big turning point for that..

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Reply 7 of 7, by khyypio

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pinesal wrote on 2022-03-22, 19:29:

Good call on painting the case. Looks better as one color.

Cuttoon wrote on 2022-03-22, 19:35:

Wow, really nice job on the case there. Any repainted part I ever came by looked like shit but you obviously know what you're doing.

But does Win98 care about the 2 GB of RAM? Think there's not much of a difference beyond 512 MB, iirc.

Thank you! Unifying the finish is the reason I tend to go for a paintjob 😀 Many beginners make the mistake of thinking that slapping a quick thick layer of spray-paint on a surface makes it look good. It doesn´t. The only right way to paint takes a of lot work, time and patience.

I didn´t do any benchmarks between 512 Mb and 2 Gb, but I´m not sure if there´s really any difference between them with Windows 98. I mainly just add it because I could. But I guess this is useful if you use huge soundfonts or something. Also, I had one build and it had a lot of different software in it and at some point some of the software wouldn´t work because of insufficient memory.

chinny22 wrote on 2022-03-23, 09:36:

I'd of gone with an Audigy 2 ZS for the "final XP era" type build.
but honestly Live! is fine and makes perfect sense if on a budget or just for a friend.

Next you need to start visiting each other and having 9x LAN parties again! 😀

I might upgrade this particular build some day. Haven´t gone to any LAN parties just yet but this is surely something to consider 😁

keropi wrote on 2022-03-23, 09:48:

nice one!
I also have a 2.4ghz p4 system for some power w98SE gaming - but it's a system I fire up once or twice per year...
still it is great to have max power and get nice fps in games

Thank you! After this experience, I don´t see any reason why I shouldn´t go for Pentium 4-powered Windows 98. At this point, I just want to enjoy a powerful and stable Windows 98 PC and this solution would provide it 😀

leileilol wrote on 2022-03-23, 09:57:
Cuttoon wrote on 2022-03-22, 19:35:

Think there's not much of a difference beyond 512 MB, iirc.

The instability's a big difference. Seeing the WinME scheme on a Win98 build also implies one of those unstable 'service packs'....

If you cut the ram to 512MB and HDD than SDD, then you'd get something period correct. XP hesitancy was a thing. However i'd highly advise 512MB as a max anyway, as there won't be any Win9x games that want that much (or even 512MB to begin with). 2GB hungry games are more of a 2007+ XP SP3/Vista happening, IIRC Supreme Commander was a big turning point for that..

You´re drawing a lot of baseless conclusions. You didn´t build, configure nor test this machine, I did. You´re also not using this machine, my friend is. I ask him about it´s working on weekly basis and he tells me it´s running perfectly stable, despite of being in very active use.

The 2 Gb RAM isn´t an issue at all because I used RLoews memory patch, the only question is if there´s any actual use for it.

If you´re referring to Unofficial Service Pack 3, you can absolutely make it highly unstable if don´t know what you´re doing. I´m guessing you´ve just tried to install everything and in one sitting? Then yes, your configuration is pretty much messed up. I use USP3 also in my own Win98 rig and it has been running perfectly