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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 43640 of 52352, by Solo761

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HanJammer wrote on 2022-04-01, 08:46:

That's surprising. I would have thought that former Yugoslavia, Hungary, Bulgaria would have the best stuff when it comes to former eastern-block countries in the 80s and early 90s...

There weren't that many computers here in the 80s, in early to mid 80s there were some localy made DIY computers, mostly based on Z80 CPU, and in later 80s smaller home computers like C64, Amstrad (mostly Schneider, as they were from Germany), Amiga, Atari... and they were smuggled accross the border into Yugoslavia.

If you wanted to get one legaly you were limited to these local diy computers or you had to have connections in the goverment to get permit to import one of the western computers. Goverment logic was that these were dangerous things and if you got one you could have built a rocket, use said computer as guidance, and fire it on said goverment (true story, that was one of the official reasons for denial of these permits 😁) so it wasn't easy or cheap to get one.

In late 80s inflation was rampant so people didn't have excess money to spend on "toys" like computers, and in early 90s there was a war so people again had something more to worry about than computers. Computers got more widespread in late 90s / early 2000s thanks to these cheap(er) DIY build PCs.
When looking on local classified ads there's never a lot of vintage computers. And what's available is sold by mostly few people who seem to picked up what little there was and now look to profit on it 😬.

Reply 43641 of 52352, by HanJammer

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Solo761 wrote on 2022-04-01, 12:29:
HanJammer wrote on 2022-04-01, 08:46:

That's surprising. I would have thought that former Yugoslavia, Hungary, Bulgaria would have the best stuff when it comes to former eastern-block countries in the 80s and early 90s...

There weren't that many computers here in the 80s, in early to mid 80s there were some localy made DIY computers, mostly based on Z80 CPU, and in later 80s smaller home computers like C64, Amstrad (mostly Schneider, as they were from Germany), Amiga, Atari... and they were smuggled accross the border into Yugoslavia.

Ah, yes:
https://flashbak.com/yugoslavian-computer-mag … 80s-90s-370271/

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Reply 43642 of 52352, by BitWrangler

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Scored an 80% (? ish) set of key caps at the thrift. Now to toss out the grubby crappy ones off my Model M SSK....

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Heh, it's that date, April 1st, yeah these aren't going on the SSK nor am I about to trash the originals off it. Actually wanted it in the pic, but it's somewhere not easy to get at the moment and I was running out of time before noon local time. For total disclosure, I actually picked these up last night.

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Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 43643 of 52352, by Radical Vision

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Got this new garbage... The 480 shows this crap... The 7950 GX2 does not have signal at all... At least with another card i can see the OS detects the damn thing.... Overall not happy at all, but got both for 17 euro (shitting included) so cant be too sad about it... Sad part is that good pieces of tech dont work properly....

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Mah systems retro, old, newer (Radical stuff)
W3680 4.5/ GA-x58 UD7/ R9 280x
K7 2.6/ NF7-S/ HD3850
IBM x2 P3 933/ GA-6VXD7/ Voodoo V 5.5K
Cmq P2 450/ GA-BX2000/ V2 SLI
IBM PC365
Cmq DeskPRO 486/33
IBM PS/2 Model 56
SPS IntelleXT 8088

Reply 43644 of 52352, by BitWrangler

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Downclock RAM and core on the 480, if pic comes in fine then, then consider recapping.

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Reply 43646 of 52352, by Radical Vision

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I will clean both cards, with 95% isopropyl alcohol, and maybe electrical contact cleaner spray too. But from my experience, most of the time parts that work like shit dont get fixed simply with one cleaning.. But will see, i am more interested to see if the 7950 GX2 will show signal after the aslcohol cleaning + the contact cleaner....

Mah systems retro, old, newer (Radical stuff)
W3680 4.5/ GA-x58 UD7/ R9 280x
K7 2.6/ NF7-S/ HD3850
IBM x2 P3 933/ GA-6VXD7/ Voodoo V 5.5K
Cmq P2 450/ GA-BX2000/ V2 SLI
IBM PC365
Cmq DeskPRO 486/33
IBM PS/2 Model 56
SPS IntelleXT 8088

Reply 43647 of 52352, by chrismeyer6

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With the gx2 make sure that both cards are firmly seated together I remember a friend back in the day had a similar issue with his. We fully disassembled the cards and reassembled them and it worked perfectly again. They can wiggle apart from thermocycling and rough handling.

Reply 43648 of 52352, by EvieSigma

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I got a double dose of retro hardware delivered today, a Dell Dimension XPS P133c and an IBM ThinkPad A22m. This Dell is an absolute tank, I love it.

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Reply 43650 of 52352, by BitWrangler

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Sleep/Wake/Crash button probably.

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Reply 43652 of 52352, by pentiumspeed

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Remember: A22 is one of these models with GPU breaking. Make sure the cooling system is clean.

Cheers,

Great Northern aka Canada.

Reply 43653 of 52352, by EvieSigma

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pentiumspeed wrote on 2022-04-01, 21:41:

Remember: A22 is one of these models with GPU breaking. Make sure the cooling system is clean.

Cheers,

It is? Maybe that's what killed my A21 four years ago.

Reply 43655 of 52352, by pete8475

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Radical Vision wrote on 2022-04-01, 15:10:
Got this new garbage... The 480 shows this crap... The 7950 GX2 does not have signal at all... At least with another card i can […]
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Got this new garbage... The 480 shows this crap... The 7950 GX2 does not have signal at all... At least with another card i can see the OS detects the damn thing.... Overall not happy at all, but got both for 17 euro (shitting included) so cant be too sad about it... Sad part is that good pieces of tech dont work properly....

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I think those 7950's cook themselves, I've seen 2 dead ones in person.

Reply 43656 of 52352, by appiah4

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EvieSigma wrote on 2022-04-01, 19:24:
I got a double dose of retro hardware delivered today, a Dell Dimension XPS P133c and an IBM ThinkPad A22m. This Dell is an abso […]
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I got a double dose of retro hardware delivered today, a Dell Dimension XPS P133c and an IBM ThinkPad A22m. This Dell is an absolute tank, I love it.

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What is that strange PCI audio card in the Dell?

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Reply 43657 of 52352, by cyclone3d

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appiah4 wrote on 2022-04-02, 04:45:
EvieSigma wrote on 2022-04-01, 19:24:
I got a double dose of retro hardware delivered today, a Dell Dimension XPS P133c and an IBM ThinkPad A22m. This Dell is an abso […]
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I got a double dose of retro hardware delivered today, a Dell Dimension XPS P133c and an IBM ThinkPad A22m. This Dell is an absolute tank, I love it.

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What is that strange PCI audio card in the Dell?

Looks like an Ensoniq ES1370 based card to me.

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Reply 43658 of 52352, by appiah4

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Not one I ever saw to be honest but those have a million revisions..

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