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First post, by filurkatten

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Hi!
I got a 440BX setup running WinME as my retro gaming rig.
It has worked great so far, no issues with either new or old games except for this game; The Elder Scrolls Arena CD Version.

I got this game in physical form and want to play it nativly, not using DOSbox, if possible.
And yes, I know Im running WinME and this maybe qould be easier using Win98SE or dualbooting but I want to use WinME as far as it is possible.

So, the installer complaines about lacking conventional memory.
The game still installs fine thou, copying a bat that is.
I can start the game and it runs as far as the character stats screen, sometimes the graphics glitches out at this point and sometimes not.
When the character is created I get the starting dream cutscene then a black screen. Only once has the game started after this point and that time it ran great.

So conclusion is that I have to little conventio al memory for this game.
When running mem I can see I got around 560-570 of 640.
I have read around that this game might need as much as 600+.
The bulk of the used memory is MSDOS.

Are there any tweaks I can try in WinME to free up some memory for the DOS stuff?
When searching around all tweaks I find are related to Win98 and isnt applicable to WinME, atleast I dont know how.

From my research;
4DOS might have a lower memory footprint.
Disable DOSKEY saves a bit of memory, or change it to Enchanced DOSKEY.
Use real dos patch/mod. (I rather not use this method, had some trouble before and I dont want to have to reinstall my system)
Make a boot disk configured for maximum conventional memory.

If there are no OS tweaks my thought is that a boot disk would be the best solution, but how would I configure it?

Thanks in advance!

Reply 1 of 2, by DosFreak

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If you don't want to make Windows ME boot to DOS and you don't want to use DOSBox then you can:
Install plop boot manager and hide and unhide partitions
or
Install multiple hard drives and enable and disable in the BIOS.

If you play around with boot managers make sure you make an image first.

It doesn't make any sense to use a floppy disk but I guess if you want you can, if I were to jump through those hoops I'd rather use plop and boot from USB if the mobo doesn't support boot from USB.

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Reply 2 of 2, by filurkatten

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Thanks for your input.
I did try Enchanced DOSKEY wich saved me some conventional memory but not nearly enough.
Like you said floppy really doesnt make sense except that its fun 😉
I would like to avoid dualbooting but usb + plop is a better solution than floppy.
So Im biting the bullet and setting up DOSBox instead.
I would like to run my games native as long as possible and now it doesnt seem feasible so DOSBox it is.
Still, if anyone got any other idea to free up some memory Im happy to try it!