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Reply 44040 of 52341, by holdencars11

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Socket3 wrote on 2022-04-21, 14:00:

The ones I saw were ~30$ shipped. Not exactly cheap but not outrageous either. Might as well grab a couple tough, as well as another FX5500 PCI since the seller had some too. They had something that really caught my eye - new Radeon 7500 PCI - from the pics they looked like high quality cards, large PCB, 8 memory chips, SMD caps and so on - but he was asking 150$ / piece and thats WAAAY to ritch for my blood.

The ones I got were $24.99 USD shipped... compared to what has been offered locally on ebay over the last couple of years with TNT2M64 PCI, its a bargain for me.... even ViRGE DX is selling for over 20-50AU....

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Reply 44041 of 52341, by Tetrium

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A001 wrote on 2022-04-21, 12:37:

I have no interest in PII but this was 3 units of money.

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I can't make out the print, but is that a 440FX chipsetted board with SIMM slots instead of DIMM slots?

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Reply 44042 of 52341, by TheMobRules

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Socket3 wrote on 2022-04-21, 10:18:

I also got a gigabyte GA-486AM/S. I jump on all socket 3 PCI boards in principle, but this one is not very exciting. No PS/2 and it uses a Dallas RTC witch are a bit of a pain to deal with. I'm curious about it's performance since it's based on the UMC chipset.

That's actually one of the fastest 486 boards. The RTC is easy to deal with as it's socketed. I would say the only downside of that board is the lack of PS/2 mouse support.

Reply 44043 of 52341, by A001

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Tetrium wrote on 2022-04-21, 15:03:
A001 wrote on 2022-04-21, 12:37:

I have no interest in PII but this was 3 units of money.

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I can't make out the print, but is that a 440FX chipsetted board with SIMM slots instead of DIMM slots?

4x SIMM yes. QDI P6I440FX PII Commander III.

Reply 44044 of 52341, by Socket3

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TheMobRules wrote on 2022-04-21, 15:52:
Socket3 wrote on 2022-04-21, 10:18:

I also got a gigabyte GA-486AM/S. I jump on all socket 3 PCI boards in principle, but this one is not very exciting. No PS/2 and it uses a Dallas RTC witch are a bit of a pain to deal with. I'm curious about it's performance since it's based on the UMC chipset.

That's actually one of the fastest 486 boards. The RTC is easy to deal with as it's socketed. I would say the only downside of that board is the lack of PS/2 mouse support.

Now I can't wait to test it. Hope it works.

holdencars11 wrote on 2022-04-21, 15:00:
Socket3 wrote on 2022-04-21, 14:00:

The ones I saw were ~30$ shipped. Not exactly cheap but not outrageous either. Might as well grab a couple tough, as well as another FX5500 PCI since the seller had some too. They had something that really caught my eye - new Radeon 7500 PCI - from the pics they looked like high quality cards, large PCB, 8 memory chips, SMD caps and so on - but he was asking 150$ / piece and thats WAAAY to ritch for my blood.

The ones I got were $24.99 USD shipped... compared to what has been offered locally on ebay over the last couple of years with TNT2M64 PCI, its a bargain for me.... even ViRGE DX is selling for over 20-50AU....

Yeah I noticed that too. That's why I stay away from them, especially when you can get a new FX5500 PCI for half what most sellers are asking. Just a couple of days ago I found a TNT2 M64 PCI locally selling for 75$ and a GF2 MX PCI for 100, same seller. Hard pass.

Reply 44045 of 52341, by CoffeeOne

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Some lately acquired (hoarded?) items, see photos

The SRAMs are from China, packaging was horrible, but no legs broke off. Hope they are no fake chips, will test them on the weekend

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Reply 44046 of 52341, by CoffeeOne

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Oh I forgot this: a cheap VLB graphics card Cirrus 5424 with a big, big plus: It is NOT upgradable to 2 MB! So I don't lose time to make the upgrade, which makes no sense anyway.

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Reply 44047 of 52341, by Meatball

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Elsa GLoria Synergy - My first 3DLabs Permedia 2-based card. It was factory sealed, but the seller shipped it in a bubble mailer. Especially because this box has practically zero support to keep it from collapsing in on itself, serious damage was all but assured the moment the bubble mailer was sealed. The seller refunded me a chunk of the sale price for the inconvenience. The card works fine. I really like the faux-gold mounting bracket - it makes the card look like it means business. The only other card I saw with a gold bracket was a Ti4600 OC card from Sparkle (which also meant business).

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Reply 44048 of 52341, by Unknown_K

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Not sure how retro this is, but just got in an ASUS Sabertooth X58 with i7-980x and 12GB DDR3-1333.

Is the 870x better then equivalent 6 core XEONs?

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Reply 44049 of 52341, by Kahenraz

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Socket3 wrote on 2022-04-21, 18:15:

Just a couple of days ago I found a TNT2 M64 PCI locally selling for 75$ and a GF2 MX PCI for 100, same seller. Hard pass.

I would like some TNT2 PCI cards as well but current prices are all a hard nope. These are all budget cards and will have lackluster performance and are not worth the asking price whatsoever. It's not like they're aren't plenty of alternatives. May as well buy a Voodoo 3.

Meatball wrote on 2022-04-21, 20:31:

I really like the faux-gold mounting bracket - it makes the card look like it means business. The only other card I saw with a gold bracket was a Ti4600 OC card from Sparkle (which also meant business).

I've never seen a gold bracket ever. Very cool.

Reply 44050 of 52341, by pancakepuppy

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Meatball wrote on 2022-04-21, 20:31:

Elsa GLoria Synergy - My first 3DLabs Permedia 2-based card. It was factory sealed, but the seller shipped it in a bubble mailer. Especially because this box has practically zero support to keep it from collapsing in on itself, serious damage was all but assured the moment the bubble mailer was sealed. The seller refunded me a chunk of the sale price for the inconvenience. The card works fine. I really like the faux-gold mounting bracket - it makes the card look like it means business. The only other card I saw with a gold bracket was a Ti4600 OC card from Sparkle (which also meant business).

I love gooooooold! :p I've got another of the 3DLabs GLoria cards (XXL) with a gold bracket as well, it's very classy. Shame about the box though 🙁

Reply 44051 of 52341, by chrismeyer6

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Unknown_K wrote on 2022-04-21, 20:49:

Not sure how retro this is, but just got in an ASUS Sabertooth X58 with i7-980x and 12GB DDR3-1333.

Is the 870x better then equivalent 6 core XEONs?

I saw that listing a few weeks back. I also got a Asus sabertooth x58 and paired it with a Xeon x5675 as a gaming system for my wife. I got 24 gigs of 1600mhx ddr 3 it's a great system she really loves it.

Reply 44052 of 52341, by Cuttoon

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Meatball wrote on 2022-04-21, 20:31:

Elsa GLoria Synergy - My first 3DLabs Permedia 2-based card. It was factory sealed, but the seller shipped it in a bubble mailer. Especially because this box has practically zero support to keep it from collapsing in on itself, serious damage was all but assured the moment the bubble mailer was sealed. The seller refunded me a chunk of the sale price for the inconvenience. The card works fine. I really like the faux-gold mounting bracket - it makes the card look like it means business. The only other card I saw with a gold bracket was a Ti4600 OC card from Sparkle (which also meant business).

People who ship NOS boxes without protection need to be beaten with wet towels. Only thing worse are people who simply ship the NOS box with a label and some tape.

Why would you call it faux-gold? It's gold plated, as genuine as contacts or some S7 heatspreaders.
Quite a few parts have that, I have at least:
- Guillemot TV card
- game port bracket
- several Terratec sound cards
- the same Elsa card
- some NIC, but not even sure, but it exists, 100 Mbit PCI
- USB PCI card, same story

I like jumpers.

Reply 44053 of 52341, by Unknown_K

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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2022-04-21, 22:00:
Unknown_K wrote on 2022-04-21, 20:49:

Not sure how retro this is, but just got in an ASUS Sabertooth X58 with i7-980x and 12GB DDR3-1333.

Is the 870x better then equivalent 6 core XEONs?

I saw that listing a few weeks back. I also got a Asus sabertooth x58 and paired it with a Xeon x5675 as a gaming system for my wife. I got 24 gigs of 1600mhx ddr 3 it's a great system she really loves it.

Its my 3rd LGA 1366 board, snagging them while they are cheap.

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Reply 44054 of 52341, by Shreddoc

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Unknown_K wrote on 2022-04-21, 23:28:
chrismeyer6 wrote on 2022-04-21, 22:00:
Unknown_K wrote on 2022-04-21, 20:49:

Not sure how retro this is, but just got in an ASUS Sabertooth X58 with i7-980x and 12GB DDR3-1333.

Is the 870x better then equivalent 6 core XEONs?

I saw that listing a few weeks back. I also got a Asus sabertooth x58 and paired it with a Xeon x5675 as a gaming system for my wife. I got 24 gigs of 1600mhx ddr 3 it's a great system she really loves it.

Its my 3rd LGA 1366 board, snagging them while they are cheap.

A few years (3?? 5??) ago, they were semi- a pain to get. The CPUs were a dime-a-dozen, cheap as potato chips, but for motherboards everyone wanted $50-100. Has the cycle moved around again since then ?

Reply 44055 of 52341, by pentiumspeed

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Marconi SCP-P5-266 Pentium 266 MHz- 64 MB DRAM Switch Control Processor. Bought this off ebay for set of two boards just to get the pentium MMX 266 processors, price is right.

But has lot of goodies to reuse from these high quality boards including low profile finned heatsinks, regulators etc. Based on TX chipset and odd looking southbridge by Intel, not BGA. And pair of 4 characters LED matrix modules, etc.

Assuming the plug in interface is not PCI standard and no way to bring out PS/2 connections and no way to hook up ATA as it lacks the connectors.

Cheers,

Great Northern aka Canada.

Reply 44056 of 52341, by pentiumspeed

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Shreddoc wrote on 2022-04-21, 23:43:
Unknown_K wrote on 2022-04-21, 23:28:
chrismeyer6 wrote on 2022-04-21, 22:00:

I saw that listing a few weeks back. I also got a Asus sabertooth x58 and paired it with a Xeon x5675 as a gaming system for my wife. I got 24 gigs of 1600mhx ddr 3 it's a great system she really loves it.

Its my 3rd LGA 1366 board, snagging them while they are cheap.

A few years (3?? 5??) ago, they were semi- a pain to get. The CPUs were a dime-a-dozen, cheap as potato chips, but for motherboards everyone wanted $50-100. Has the cycle moved around again since then ?

No. Motherboards is still expensive especially the high end stuff and questionable especially from chinese sources.

Cheers,

Great Northern aka Canada.

Reply 44057 of 52341, by Shreddoc

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pentiumspeed wrote on 2022-04-21, 23:51:
Shreddoc wrote on 2022-04-21, 23:43:
Unknown_K wrote on 2022-04-21, 23:28:

Its my 3rd LGA 1366 board, snagging them while they are cheap.

A few years (3?? 5??) ago, they were semi- a pain to get. The CPUs were a dime-a-dozen, cheap as potato chips, but for motherboards everyone wanted $50-100. Has the cycle moved around again since then ?

No. Motherboards is still expensive especially the high end stuff and questionable especially from chinese sources.

Cheers,

Cool, not much has changed, then.

Back then, ~5 years ago, I briefly had a 980X -based system for testing/fun. But it was a short affair. A fun novelty and quite powerful (especially pre-Ryzen-and-co), but for various reasons* not really tempting to keep as a daily driver. *including motherboard scarcity

Reply 44058 of 52341, by Meatball

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Cuttoon wrote on 2022-04-21, 22:15:
People who ship NOS boxes without protection need to be beaten with wet towels. Only thing worse are people who simply ship the […]
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Meatball wrote on 2022-04-21, 20:31:

Elsa GLoria Synergy - My first 3DLabs Permedia 2-based card. It was factory sealed, but the seller shipped it in a bubble mailer. Especially because this box has practically zero support to keep it from collapsing in on itself, serious damage was all but assured the moment the bubble mailer was sealed. The seller refunded me a chunk of the sale price for the inconvenience. The card works fine. I really like the faux-gold mounting bracket - it makes the card look like it means business. The only other card I saw with a gold bracket was a Ti4600 OC card from Sparkle (which also meant business).

People who ship NOS boxes without protection need to be beaten with wet towels. Only thing worse are people who simply ship the NOS box with a label and some tape.

Why would you call it faux-gold? It's gold plated, as genuine as contacts or some S7 heatspreaders.
Quite a few parts have that, I have at least:
- Guillemot TV card
- game port bracket
- several Terratec sound cards
- the same Elsa card
- some NIC, but not even sure, but it exists, 100 Mbit PCI
- USB PCI card, same story

I suppose you're technically accurate, but to me it's phony. Just a like fiat issued coins - There's some (very little) silver (or copper) in there, but it's no better than a nano meter thin layer of plating. Not like one of my molars - that's solid gold.

Reply 44059 of 52341, by Unknown_K

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pentiumspeed wrote on 2022-04-21, 23:51:
Shreddoc wrote on 2022-04-21, 23:43:
Unknown_K wrote on 2022-04-21, 23:28:

Its my 3rd LGA 1366 board, snagging them while they are cheap.

A few years (3?? 5??) ago, they were semi- a pain to get. The CPUs were a dime-a-dozen, cheap as potato chips, but for motherboards everyone wanted $50-100. Has the cycle moved around again since then ?

No. Motherboards is still expensive especially the high end stuff and questionable especially from chinese sources.

Cheers,

Well I have the Asus Sabertooth x58, MSI X58 Pro and the Asus P6T.

There are probably higher end boards not sure. The MSI I got for very little since it had a bent pin (easy fix).

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