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Reply 44520 of 52615, by Brawndo

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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2022-05-08, 03:26:
Brawndo wrote on 2022-05-07, 22:21:
I love the local treasure finds. One man's junk is another man's treasure. Just picked up this 36" Sony Trinitron Wega CRT TV fo […]
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I love the local treasure finds. One man's junk is another man's treasure. Just picked up this 36" Sony Trinitron Wega CRT TV for $40. It's my second Sony 36" CRT strictly for use with the old school consoles and light gun games. It's got a little cracked plastic on the top, but a little glue and plastic filler will take care of that.

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That's a fantastic deal on the tv. How's the image quality of it?

I haven't actually tested it yet. When I picked it up the guy turned it on with a SNES connected to show me it's working, so I saw it for about 10 seconds, but I want to connect a good RGB or component source to it to really check it out. I'll try with a PS2 or Xbox and report back. Being a Sony Wega, unless there's some picture degradation due to age, it should be top notch.

Interestingly it has a HDMI input, which I've never seen on a 4:3 CRT TV. Wonder what could make use of that.

Reply 44521 of 52615, by Cuttoon

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Brawndo wrote on 2022-05-09, 03:28:
chrismeyer6 wrote on 2022-05-08, 03:26:
Brawndo wrote on 2022-05-07, 22:21:
I love the local treasure finds. One man's junk is another man's treasure. Just picked up this 36" Sony Trinitron Wega CRT TV fo […]
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I love the local treasure finds. One man's junk is another man's treasure. Just picked up this 36" Sony Trinitron Wega CRT TV for $40. It's my second Sony 36" CRT strictly for use with the old school consoles and light gun games. It's got a little cracked plastic on the top, but a little glue and plastic filler will take care of that.

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That's a fantastic deal on the tv. How's the image quality of it?

I haven't actually tested it yet. When I picked it up the guy turned it on with a SNES connected to show me it's working, so I saw it for about 10 seconds, but I want to connect a good RGB or component source to it to really check it out. I'll try with a PS2 or Xbox and report back. Being a Sony Wega, unless there's some picture degradation due to age, it should be top notch.

Interestingly it has a HDMI input, which I've never seen on a 4:3 CRT TV. Wonder what could make use of that.

HDMI on a CRT really seems far out. The CRT industry made some last stand before being killed off by plasmas and LCDs. That brought some real innovation to a system mainly unchanged since the color standard was introduced in the 60s. Like 16:9 screens. It probably has the 100Hz non-flicker tech as well which mainly meant taking a normal PAL TV signal, storing the frame and displaying it twice. Don't know how it was done with NTSC, maybe actually 120 Hz?

HDMI: Well, you can attach DVI as a native signal. So, even if it has VGA in as well, I wouldn't be too surprised if many VGA in adapters even in high-end TV sets were little better than the Chrontel or Philips TV-out chips on many graphics cards. (less than great). So, having HDMI that will take most Geforce 4 or many older cards natively is pretty cool.

Fun fact about the Sony WEGA brand:
They actually acquired that name whith the "Württembergische Radio-Gesellschaft mbh" in the 1970s - a producer of home entertainment gear from my hometown. Some of their stuff had been designed by Hartmut Esslinger, the dude who would go on to create most of the looks of Apple Inc.:
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Reply 44522 of 52615, by chrismeyer6

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Brawndo wrote on 2022-05-09, 03:28:
chrismeyer6 wrote on 2022-05-08, 03:26:
Brawndo wrote on 2022-05-07, 22:21:
I love the local treasure finds. One man's junk is another man's treasure. Just picked up this 36" Sony Trinitron Wega CRT TV fo […]
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I love the local treasure finds. One man's junk is another man's treasure. Just picked up this 36" Sony Trinitron Wega CRT TV for $40. It's my second Sony 36" CRT strictly for use with the old school consoles and light gun games. It's got a little cracked plastic on the top, but a little glue and plastic filler will take care of that.

20220507-154933.jpg

That's a fantastic deal on the tv. How's the image quality of it?

I haven't actually tested it yet. When I picked it up the guy turned it on with a SNES connected to show me it's working, so I saw it for about 10 seconds, but I want to connect a good RGB or component source to it to really check it out. I'll try with a PS2 or Xbox and report back. Being a Sony Wega, unless there's some picture degradation due to age, it should be top notch.

Interestingly it has a HDMI input, which I've never seen on a 4:3 CRT TV. Wonder what could make use of that.

We had a similar 34 inch Wega that had component, DVI, and HDMI. We used it with our DirecTV reciver for some time untill my parents got our first lcd tv. We also used it with a Xbox and Xbox 360. The picture quality from the DVI and HDMI ports was stunning it was kind of a let down with the flat panel tv

Reply 44523 of 52615, by Joseph_Joestar

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Brawndo wrote on 2022-05-09, 03:28:

Interestingly it has a HDMI input, which I've never seen on a 4:3 CRT TV. Wonder what could make use of that.

I think that might be a Hi-Scan WEGA model.

From what I recall, they are great for playing 480p games (e.g. on the Wii and PS3), but have some drawbacks when processing a 240p signal from older consoles. Been a while since I last researched that, so take what I said with a grain of salt.

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Reply 44524 of 52615, by OMORES

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FIC PC-2012, launched 3Q 1997 it was the first motherboard with AGP for socket 7.

With 3xDIMM slots, 2xUSB, 2xPS2, serial and parallel ports on the back doesn't look like a typical socket 7 board from 1997/1998.

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Reply 44525 of 52615, by dormcat

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OMORES wrote on 2022-05-09, 13:56:

FIC PC-2012, launched 3Q 1997 it was the first motherboard with AGP for socket 7.

With 3xDIMM slots, 2xUSB, 2xPS2, serial and parallel ports on the back doesn't look like a typical socket 7 board from 1997/1998.

Seconded. It looks more like a P3 Coppermine-era Socket 370 motherboard from a distance.

Reply 44529 of 52615, by Robert B

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True monsters and they are half height drives. 😁 Damn! 😀

Tandon TM848E. One NOS, two in need of some IC's. Intel D8748H in particular. 2 pcs.

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Reply 44530 of 52615, by blurks

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Artex wrote on 2022-05-08, 23:38:
blurks wrote on 2022-05-08, 13:39:

Artex where are you!?

Your presence is overdue.

Still here lurking and still collecting. Sadly though, it seems the current state of affairs is no different than what it was when I decided to stop posting in this topic/thread now many months ago. VOGONS was (and still very much is) a great source of knowledge disseminated by many people who are way smarter than I. This thread though - originally established as a space for the digital curation of these retro goodies - somehow continues to be filled with the toxic rants of people who just can't seem to enjoy the hobby for what it is. They continue to bash those who have no ill intentions and who simply want to share their treasures without judgement. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but people should have the capacity to exercise some self-restraint as well. @Tetrium - cheers to you and some of the oldie Vogoneers that just seem to 'get it.'

Cheers mate! Great to see u still lurking around.

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Reply 44531 of 52615, by Doornkaat

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Robert B wrote on 2022-05-09, 18:28:
What's better than loot? MORE LOOT! Of course. :D […]
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What's better than loot? MORE LOOT! Of course. 😁

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Saw this post scrolling up and thought "This looks awfully similar to a Robert B post!'😄
Nice haul! I have run out of space to store hardware so my only way to get hardware hunting highs is to get them second hand from posts like yours.😉
My wallet is pretty thankful though.😅

Reply 44532 of 52615, by Robert B

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😀 Awesome! 😀 My wallet though is "bleeding". 😁 I'm going to persevere until it's gushing out money though. 😁 This kind of loot doesn't come too often here and when it does I am ready! 😀

Reply 44533 of 52615, by debs3759

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Picking this lot up from a freecycler on Thursday. Described as

This includes 2 motherboard, processor and memory bundles (one is a core 2 duo 2006ish the other is older), a printer (needs new toner), scanner, 5 1/4 floppy drive, various cables and other cards

. Sadly I was late to the party, so missed out on the 5.25 floppy, but hoping there is something good in the rest (no idea what the motherboards or cards are yet, and the laser printer might be good)

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Reply 44534 of 52615, by Doornkaat

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debs3759 wrote on 2022-05-09, 20:47:

Picking this lot up from a freecycler on Thursday. Described as

This includes 2 motherboard, processor and memory bundles (one is a core 2 duo 2006ish the other is older), a printer (needs new toner), scanner, 5 1/4 floppy drive, various cables and other cards

. Sadly I was late to the party, so missed out on the 5.25 floppy, but hoping there is something good in the rest (no idea what the motherboards or cards are yet, and the laser printer might be good)

Bit of a tease that post.😄
Looks promising. 👍

Reply 44535 of 52615, by PC@LIVE

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In recent days, I found a case for sale at an attractive price, I perfected the purchase and used it to put inside one of the many PCs that I fixed (long ago).
In addition to the case there is the floppy reader, currently it is not yet connected, it is there to fill the hole, but I should have a floppy drive cable (34PIN) aside, obviously I will connect it later, for the moment I have no need to transfer files via floppy, I don't think I will need it in the future either, so if I need it for other older PCs I could replace it with something else more useful.
The case is a CoolerMasater, model if I'm not mistaken Centurion 5 or S ?, inside I mounted a Core2 Duo E6750 PC, Asus P5N-E SLI motherboard with 4GB of DDR2 RAM, XFX GF9800GT video card, if I remember correctly from 512MB of RAM, 120GB Kingston HD SSD in which I installed a WIN8 (can't remember which one).
On the case there are two USB ports on the front, one 1394 and a couple of audio ports, in the video card instead there is a DVI port and one to connect an HDMI cable, no VGA ports, but for the old monitors I solved it by connecting an adapter VGA-DVI.
At the moment due to busy schedules, I don't have time to bench, but I hope in the future to find the time necessary to do some tests.

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Reply 44536 of 52615, by SteveC

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SteveC wrote on 2022-05-08, 17:03:

No idea what this is but it was a tenner and includes an HP 19" LCD monitor (not that I want that as I have one or two already!). It says P4 at the bottom but who knows!

Seller's only photo.... I just hope it has something exciting in it!

I picked this up today and it's...... as dull as dishwater 🙁

It's a P4 2.66GHz, 40GB Seagate drive, 52X LG CDROM drive, onboard everything, Intel motherboard, not even an AGP slot. Only slightly interesting thing is an extra PCI parallel port card, not sure why you'd need that! It's been wiped clean - no personal files or any interesting software even on it! It was last booted 29th Dec 2009 so it's sat on a shelf for over a decade untouched!

Oh well the case is nice and good condition, just filthy.

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Reply 44537 of 52615, by Lukeno94

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Thought I'd pop up here and showcase what arrived today from Japan, at least the item that actually works out of the things I ordered - a nice, rare IBM ThinkPad S30. Screen was shot, with the classic vinegar syndrome starting, but I already had a replacement for my previous S30, which sadly is in much worse physical shape and also appears to be allergic to screen inverters. Haven't done much with this beyond swapping the screen and the HDD, and dumping a random W98 image from my ThinkPad 600E on it so far though!

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Reply 44538 of 52615, by Cuttoon

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SteveC wrote on 2022-05-10, 20:51:
I picked this up today and it's...... as dull as dishwater :( […]
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SteveC wrote on 2022-05-08, 17:03:

No idea what this is but it was a tenner and includes an HP 19" LCD monitor (not that I want that as I have one or two already!). It says P4 at the bottom but who knows!

Seller's only photo.... I just hope it has something exciting in it!

I picked this up today and it's...... as dull as dishwater 🙁

It's a P4 2.66GHz, 40GB Seagate drive, 52X LG CDROM drive, onboard everything, Intel motherboard, not even an AGP slot. Only slightly interesting thing is an extra PCI parallel port card, not sure why you'd need that! It's been wiped clean - no personal files or any interesting software even on it! It was last booted 29th Dec 2009 so it's sat on a shelf for over a decade untouched!

Oh well the case is nice and good condition, just filthy.

Apart from the P4 sign, there also was an inventory sticker on the front which also indicates "dull as dishwater", usually. But now we know that there are blue PCI parallel cards.
I'd assume, the motherboard has a first parallel port in the backplate? Chances are, the second was for some rather expensive legacy hardware like industrial machinery or plotter, special printer.

Think that case is called the chieftec dragon. Was really popular 20 years ago and sure is a quality case. Well worth that tenner on its own. Grey or white ones were much less common than black, silver or blue.
Also, is that µATX? Wouldn't have thought those existed, was such a tinkerer and enthusiast case.

I like jumpers.

Reply 44539 of 52615, by chrismeyer6

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PC@LIVE wrote on 2022-05-10, 19:47:
In recent days, I found a case for sale at an attractive price, I perfected the purchase and used it to put inside one of the ma […]
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In recent days, I found a case for sale at an attractive price, I perfected the purchase and used it to put inside one of the many PCs that I fixed (long ago).
In addition to the case there is the floppy reader, currently it is not yet connected, it is there to fill the hole, but I should have a floppy drive cable (34PIN) aside, obviously I will connect it later, for the moment I have no need to transfer files via floppy, I don't think I will need it in the future either, so if I need it for other older PCs I could replace it with something else more useful.
The case is a CoolerMasater, model if I'm not mistaken Centurion 5 or S ?, inside I mounted a Core2 Duo E6750 PC, Asus P5N-E SLI motherboard with 4GB of DDR2 RAM, XFX GF9800GT video card, if I remember correctly from 512MB of RAM, 120GB Kingston HD SSD in which I installed a WIN8 (can't remember which one).
On the case there are two USB ports on the front, one 1394 and a couple of audio ports, in the video card instead there is a DVI port and one to connect an HDMI cable, no VGA ports, but for the old monitors I solved it by connecting an adapter VGA-DVI.
At the moment due to busy schedules, I don't have time to bench, but I hope in the future to find the time necessary to do some tests.

That is a great system you built. That is indeed a CoolerMaster Centurion 5 that's one of my all time favorite cases.