Maybe try casual Rage Pro driver?
By the way there are PCI graphics cards that would run circles around it.

Putas wrote on 2022-05-18, 10:38:

Maybe try casual Rage Pro driver?
By the way there are PCI graphics cards that would run circles around it.

Yep, tried that. I know there are always 'alternatives', but this is a machine for a friend. It was their childhood computer and I would love to get it up and running 100% for them for the full experience. If it can't be fixed, fair enough. But I would always prefer to exhaust all reasonable options first.

p.s. Installing a Trio64 worked fine, of course, though it clashed with the NIC. Trying XP next.

I got confused by bad info about the board on the first web I found online. There is indeed a Rage 128 VR version. Nice. Are you sure it is the one you have?

It's not the same card, but I had similar trouble with one of those new eBay Rage cards in a 98 box. No installer (exe) would recognise it. In the end I got it going by letting 98 install the standard VGA driver, then updating the driver from Device Manager - pointing it to an inf in the Pro driver pack from Phil's site. Not sure if a similar approach could help you.

I've had to mess with the driver INF to get some cards to work properly. If the INF has the right PCI vendor/device IDs in a device identifier (in the form of PCI\VEN_####&DEV_####, replace #s with IDs) try erasing the &SUBSYS_######## from the end of the identifier and see if the driver will install.

Putas wrote on 2022-05-18, 12:58:

I got confused by bad info about the board on the first web I found online. There is indeed a Rage 128 VR version. Nice. Are you sure it is the one you have?

Affirmative. It's confirmed in the manual and by the dev ID. Also, I just spent the necessary 90 minutes installing XP on this K6-2/500 to find out that the card is recognised perfectly well and the driver installed as part of Windows installation. At least I know it's not a hardware problem. I tried the drivers from Phil's site and archived drivers from the ATI site and drivers from other sources and none of them worked. I would know by now to be more methodical with graphics drivers.

Have you tried the ones here?
https://soggi.org/drivers/ati.htm

I believe it is a unified package, so despite stating it is for 1999 Rage 128 Pro, it should work for 1998 Rage 128 (VR being the lower end variant of the chip, GL being the high end one).

The package from that site has allowed me to install one of those Dell Rage128 Pro, which wouldn´t accept the reference drivers at AMD site.

is this board an oem board like out of a dell/compaq/gateway or something. can't seem to find a listing for this model board on the msi site witch they mainly seem to not list boards that were made for oems. was going to suggest checking msi site and use whatever driver they provided but since its not listed on there that wouldn't help.

aaron158 wrote on 2022-05-18, 17:13:

is this board an oem board like out of a dell/compaq/gateway or something. can't seem to find a listing for this model board on the msi site witch they mainly seem to not list boards that were made for oems. was going to suggest checking msi site and use whatever driver they provided but since its not listed on there that wouldn't help.

Yep, that was the first thing I did. The good old days when you could download the specific driver for your board! It is indeed an OEM board, in a machine by Time Computers in the UK. I actually didn't try their site though, maybe that would work.

brassicGamer wrote on 2022-05-18, 18:07:

aaron158 wrote on 2022-05-18, 17:13:

is this board an oem board like out of a dell/compaq/gateway or something. can't seem to find a listing for this model board on the msi site witch they mainly seem to not list boards that were made for oems. was going to suggest checking msi site and use whatever driver they provided but since its not listed on there that wouldn't help.

Yep, that was the first thing I did. The good old days when you could download the specific driver for your board! It is indeed an OEM board, in a machine by Time Computers in the UK. I actually didn't try their site though, maybe that would work.

def try that. i know with some laptops alot of times u can't just installed intel or nvidia or amd driver u have to get the driver from the laptop maker so maybe something similar here

Well, all I had to do was be more methodical. Turns out all the drivers (but one) that I downloaded were the exact same version (4.13.7192). I don't know why I assumed they wouldn't be - out of practice I guess. Even though this driver is supposed to support the Rage 128 VR, it doesn't. Maybe it's something to do with it being integrated, I don't know. Either way, I found version 6.4 of the Rage drivers and that worked. What a dumbass. Thanks for the help though - hopefully this thread will help someone else in the same spot.