dormcat wrote on 2022-07-03, 07:08:

moog wrote on 2022-07-02, 11:45:

This one has AGP, it would go nicely with Voodoo 5 https://www.ebay.com/itm/275031139204

Look carefully at its AGP: it's the late 1.5V model, while Voodoo 5 requires 3.3V AGP.

AFAIK Voodoo 4 is the only universal AGP Voodoo card with both 3.3V and 1.5V keys.

Guess he was talking for AGP, but meant to use PCI instead lmao..

Radical Vision wrote on 2022-07-03, 10:01:

dormcat wrote on 2022-07-03, 07:08:

moog wrote on 2022-07-02, 11:45:

This one has AGP, it would go nicely with Voodoo 5 https://www.ebay.com/itm/275031139204

Look carefully at its AGP: it's the late 1.5V model, while Voodoo 5 requires 3.3V AGP.

AFAIK Voodoo 4 is the only universal AGP Voodoo card with both 3.3V and 1.5V keys.

Guess he was talking for AGP, but meant to use PCI instead lmao..

No, dormcat is right. I made a silly mistake, I didn't pay attention and notice it was a 1.5V AGP slot. Sorry, I was just so tired yesterday.

When think about it is really dumb from 3Dfx to have made Voodoo IV having universal AGP slot, and yet the Voodoo V does not have wtf is wrong with these ppl.... Sure where i will use Voodoo V card is some mobo with universal AGP slot, but maybe was going to better if they made both 4 and 5 with universal, or non...

Doesn't seem to be a blocking issue if you really want to make your dreams come true.

I'd like to ask you which tool do you use to safely remove the usual heatsink plastic clips from any board without risking the close smd components or breaking some pcb traces. I wonder if there're some useful tool to safely push them and remove the usual old chipset or gpu like heatsinks.

Thanks

Vintage market 2022 July. Regarding retro computing, it was very disappointing. All I bought was the Frozen Throne expansion for WarCraft III. CD is in flawless condition, came with a manual. Otherwise the only mildly interesting vintage computer stuff I found was this:

Also, one day I'll buy a ship like these.

386SX wrote on 2022-07-03, 15:53:

I'd like to ask you which tool do you use to safely remove the usual heatsink plastic clips from any board without risking the close smd components or breaking some pcb traces. I wonder if there're some useful tool to safely push them and remove the usual old chipset or gpu like heatsinks.

Thanks

To me radio pliers and work the best. Some people says ballpoint pens also work, but you need one with a big enough hole and metal head (or whatever it's called where the tip comes out from.)

RandomStranger wrote on 2022-07-03, 17:35:

Also, one day I'll buy a ship like these.

More fun to build one surely.

RandomStranger wrote on 2022-07-03, 17:35:

Some people says ballpoint pens also work, but you need one with a big enough hole and metal head (or whatever it's called where the tip comes out from.)

Yah, the hole is the right size in a classic Bic, but they only last a couple or three uses before they split. Possibly the papermate stick pens, you could pull the end off, take the ink refill out of it, invert the end and use the back of that, which probably isn't real easy to grip, but it won't be as splitty. The bic pen gives you the size you're looking for though in a durable form. Maybe if a quarter inch drive bit set came with some small sockets that are deep enough, those would work. I had one nut driver I was using at one point, but I didn't make note of the size and can't find it lately.

Those ships are amazing.

BitWrangler wrote on 2022-07-03, 18:51:

RandomStranger wrote on 2022-07-03, 17:35:

Also, one day I'll buy a ship like these.

More fun to build one surely.

Well, I only lack two things to do it, patience and skill 😁

Does somebody have the paket driver for DOS so i can use MTCP Before i have to look for another networking card?

GuillermoXT wrote on 2022-07-03, 20:01:

Does somebody have the paket driver for DOS so i can use MTCP Before i have to look for another networking card?

It is an SMC Elite 16 Ultra (8216). I've got the drivers and manual archived here:
https://ftp.zx.net.nz/pub/drivers/SMC/Elite16/

ether.exe should contain the latest drivers. If those don't work there is an older version in the 'old' subdirectory plus some other misc drivers and other bits described by the README file.

I have a boot ROM which may work for these cards too but at present no way of dumping it - really need to get myself an EPROM programmer.

Bought this NVME enclosure "Plugable USB C to M.2 NVMe Tool-free Enclosure USB C and Thunderbolt 3 Compatible up to USB 3.1 Gen 2 Speeds (10Gbps). Adapter Includes USB-C and USB 3.0 Cables (Supports M.2 NVMe SSDs 2280 2260 2242)" to see about replacing the "SAMSUNG FIT Plus 128GB - 400 MB/s USB 3.1 Flash Drive (MUF-128AB/AM)" that replaced the 512mb DOM in my QNAP nas. Hoping I can use this to put the system dataset on it, if not then may put TrueNAS on the Fit and keep this connected for the dataset.

This would potentially eliminate having to use "QNAP QM2-2P-384 M.2 to PCI Express Adapter" or I can use that for other uses. A special vdev, vms, etc.

Plugable USB C to M.2 NVMe Tool-free Enclosure USB C and Thunderbolt 3 Compatible up to USB 3.1 Gen 2 Speeds (10Gbps). Adapter Includes USB-C and USB 3.0 Cables (Supports M.2 NVMe SSDs 2280 2260 2242)
with an old
SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus SSD 1TB, M.2 NVMe Interface Internal Solid State Hard Drive with V-NAND Technology for Gaming, Graphic Design, MZ-V7S1T0B/AM

Until I get my QNAP back from offsite currently playing with it hooked up to my old Q9650 and installing the latest Fedora on it to boot from (USB2) which takes 2-3 minutes....
Fedora shows Average Read rate of 39.3MB/s with an average access time of 0.37msec in the disk benchmark tool.

The internal Samsung 860 EVO M.2 1TB connected via SATA gets 275.4 MB/s read with a 0.06 msec access time.

Boot time with the below was normal on all three so likely Fedora not optimized for booting via USB2

Q9650 Desktop

USB2
39.3MB/s
37msec

Internal Samsung 860 EVO M.2 1TB connected via SATA
275.4 MB/s
0.06msec

Precision 5520

USB3
442.9MB/s
0.21ms

USB-C
980.8MB/s
0.15msec

Internal Firecuda 530
3.1GB/s
0.02msec

davidrg wrote on 2022-07-03, 20:31:

It is an SMC Elite 16 Ultra (8216). I've got the drivers and manual archived here: https://ftp.zx.net.nz/pub/drivers/SMC/Elite16 […]
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GuillermoXT wrote on 2022-07-03, 20:01:

Does somebody have the paket driver for DOS so i can use MTCP Before i have to look for another networking card?

It is an SMC Elite 16 Ultra (8216). I've got the drivers and manual archived here:
https://ftp.zx.net.nz/pub/drivers/SMC/Elite16/

ether.exe should contain the latest drivers. If those don't work there is an older version in the 'old' subdirectory plus some other misc drivers and other bits described by the README file.

I have a boot ROM which may work for these cards too but at present no way of dumping it - really need to get myself an EPROM programmer.

Thanks for the file but i still have the issue not getting that card set up...
I decided to purchase a brand new pnp & jumperable Network Card (Lineablu in Dosreloaded.de still sells fresh built ones)

Not so much today, but yesterday I finally got around to swapping the keys on my Italian Amstrad PPC512. So I now have my very own PPC512 with backlit screen and UK keyboard layout 😀

First time I've attempted a Dallas bodge/repair today and it's worked really well! (I've since put a blob of glue on the connections to give a bit more strength)

Today I managed to fix the right ADB port in my AEK II, which means that the weird issues that I was having with my mice has gone away. I guess that, over the course of 30 years, the solder got weak enough that transporting the keyboard would break it. Luckily, that is the only problem this keyboard has after I went in and cleaned the ever loving crap out of the alps switches inside. And, thanks to my ADB wombat, I am using the ADB mouse and keyboard on a modern macintosh to write this message. I love the future.

BitWrangler wrote on 2022-07-01, 16:29:

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-06-30, 11:38:

appiah4 wrote on 2022-06-30, 11:23:

Sell them to a C64 user.

or donate them if I can find someone locally who uses 360k floppies.

Is there some open or is it a sealed pack? If there's some loose, you could punch the HD notch out and see if they format reliably as 1.2MB ... many people did this back in the day, when 360kb quality got more reliable. Need branded disks rather than generics most likely. Should be good enough for "working copies" of treasured originals at least, even if you have to redo them every once in a while.

These arrive today and there is only one difference between these and other HD 1.2mb disks I have ..these have the hub ring that low density disks have, but aside from that there is already a HD notch.

Could it be that these are 1.2mb disks simply formatted to 1S/2D ?

They are Verbatim Disks so Im just going to format one of them as a 1.2mb disk and see what happens.

Well, I tested the G4 MDD I acquired last week. The computer is dead, power supply is blown up. It had a Radeon 9800 Pro Mac Edition in it which someone had connected via a cheap molex splitter that decided to give up the ghost and took the power supply with it.

The red+ pin on the video card side was completely carbonized, black as coal. So the molex connector had to go, I decided to use my mediocre soldering skills to (over the course of about 3 hours) replace the molex connector with a female molex cable (salvaged from the very molex splitter that made an attempt on this card, no less). When I say I'm mediocre at soldering, I'm not kidding. But it SHOULD work...

The question is did the shitty molex connector take the graphics card along with the PSU. I won't know the anwser to that until I figure out how to flash a PC VGA bios onto it without a functioning AGP Mac.

Radical Vision wrote on 2022-07-03, 10:48:

When think about it is really dumb from 3Dfx to have made Voodoo IV having universal AGP slot, and yet the Voodoo V does not have wtf is wrong with these ppl.... Sure where i will use Voodoo V card is some mobo with universal AGP slot, but maybe was going to better if they made both 4 and 5 with universal, or non...

From what I remember, it had something to do with the Voodoo 5 5500 (and Voodoo 5 6000) having multiple GPUs which made it more difficult to make work on AGP or something and Voodoo 4 4500 having just a single GPU which made AGP compatibility simpler or something like that. It wouldn't have affected sales at the time and 3DFX was already working on Rampage which iirc would have had universal AGP compatibility.

And it wasn't "really dumb" and "wtf is wrong with these ppl" as AGP 4x was still fairly new and AGP 8x slots didn't exist at the time.

Noticed I had a Samsung 950 Pro 512gb and remembered the option rom would allow it to boot on my X38-SQ3 w/ Q9650 Pro

Popped in the M.2 pcie 4x adapter , installed Windows 11 and started CrystalDiskMark

Read
836.61MB/s
779.52MB/s
224.13MB/s
45.52

Write
689.90MB/s
655.49
146.59
94.56

Compared to the Samsung Evo 860 EVO in a M.2 to sata adapter it's quite a bit faster. Thinking about picking up a dual m.2 adapter, use this 950 for boot and OS and slap another m.2 for storage. N

Below taken with Fedora Disk benchmark tool

Internal Samsung 860 EVO M.2 1TB connected via SATA2
275.4 MB/s
0.06msec