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First post, by Sly_Botts

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What do you guys think would cause this kind of damage to a motherboard?

Motherboard is an epox 440bx. The cpu was a P3 600e Coppermine.

I turned it on after installing a sound card and I smelt that dreaded smell we all fear...

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Reply 5 of 13, by Sly_Botts

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majestyk wrote on 2022-07-16, 07:11:

Metal screws with no isolating washers between them and the PCB?

No there are isolating washers.

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Reply 6 of 13, by Sly_Botts

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I think when my soldering skills improve I will attempt to repair this. I think if I'm tedious and careful I can use copper foil tape and fix this.

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Reply 7 of 13, by Sly_Botts

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Now that I think about it, I bet that screw on the top left maybe shorted on the chassis somehow. Maybe touched when on and caused the short.

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Reply 8 of 13, by Horun

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Sly_Botts wrote on 2022-07-17, 01:31:

Now that I think about it, I bet that screw on the top left maybe shorted on the chassis somehow. Maybe touched when on and caused the short.

Could be ! Maybe the painted coating was not enough on those black screws. Those do not look like original Slot-1 retention parts but aftermarket.
Most of my Slot-1 boards use a Nylon/plastic fastener for the original socket retention part and some with brass screws but they are built different with insulated plastic inserts.
They make those red fiber washers for using on the top of boards but maybe should have been used on the bottom for these screws too... just thinking out loud... 😀

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Reply 9 of 13, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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Horun wrote on 2022-07-17, 02:46:
Could be ! Maybe the painted coating was not enough on those black screws. Those do not look like original Slot-1 retention par […]
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Sly_Botts wrote on 2022-07-17, 01:31:

Now that I think about it, I bet that screw on the top left maybe shorted on the chassis somehow. Maybe touched when on and caused the short.

Could be ! Maybe the painted coating was not enough on those black screws. Those do not look like original Slot-1 retention parts but aftermarket.
Most of my Slot-1 boards use a Nylon/plastic fastener for the original socket retention part and some with brass screws but they are built different with insulated plastic inserts.
They make those red fiber washers for using on the top of boards but maybe should have been used on the bottom for these screws too... just thinking out loud... 😀

Possibly, though an Epox / slot 1 image seach on UR suggests that the black screws may have been used on at least some of these boards. As a comparison, my Supermico slot 1 boards (all I believe wirh original retention brackets) use an 'identical' part - black metal screws with a separate but captive black plastic insulating washer.

Reply 10 of 13, by Sly_Botts

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Trace repair complete! I used enamel coated magnetic wire. BNTECHGO 30 AWG Magnet Wire - Enameled Copper Wire - 0.0098" Diameter - Natural Temperature Rating 155℃

Southbridge is now getting power. Chassis fan port working again. Fan on AGP card working again but no picture. I think I will try this with a PCI card when it comes in the mail. If it posts fine, I will know something is up with the AGP slot.

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Reply 11 of 13, by Sphere478

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So was it the slot screw?

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Reply 12 of 13, by Sly_Botts

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Sphere478 wrote on 2022-07-30, 05:36:

So was it the slot screw?

No there is plastic between the Screw and pcb.

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