DerBaum wrote on 2022-08-05, 09:20:

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HanJammer wrote on 2022-08-05, 09:16:

I wouldn't be so sure it's industrial board. Many home/office PCs used simple backplane with CPU/RAM/controllers and so on in form of a card.

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Ah, havn't noticed it on a phone 😀
I have very similar card in one of my PCs though (same chipset and overal layout).

Just received this film scanner, I hate that kind of puzzle...

lolo799 wrote on 2022-08-05, 12:47:

Just received this film scanner, I hate that kind of puzzle...20220805_142109.jpg

I hope it was insured against damage during transport.

lolo799 wrote on 2022-08-05, 12:47:

Just received this film scanner, I hate that kind of puzzle...20220805_142109.jpg

That sucks the big hairy one man. Does it function? If it does, just get a dust cover (and your money back of course) and have at it.

liqmat wrote on 2022-08-05, 13:11:

lolo799 wrote on 2022-08-05, 12:47:

Just received this film scanner, I hate that kind of puzzle...20220805_142109.jpg

That sucks the big hairy one man. Does it function? If it does, just get a dust cover (and your money back of course) and have at it.

I have a feeling that even if it does turn on that what ever alignment it had for scanning is ..uhh on the floor as part of the puzzle.

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-08-05, 13:14:

liqmat wrote on 2022-08-05, 13:11:

lolo799 wrote on 2022-08-05, 12:47:

Just received this film scanner, I hate that kind of puzzle...20220805_142109.jpg

That sucks the big hairy one man. Does it function? If it does, just get a dust cover (and your money back of course) and have at it.

I have a feeling that even if it does turn on that what ever alignment it had for scanning is ..uhh on the floor as part of the puzzle.

Yeah, a lot of times sellers will just say to keep it and not bother with a return. Ah well, could sell it for parts I suppose.

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-08-05, 12:51:

I hope it was insured against damage during transport.

I'll have to check that with Fedex...

liqmat wrote on 2022-08-05, 13:11:

That sucks the big hairy one man. Does it function? If it does, just get a dust cover (and your money back of course) and have at it.

I'll try it later, I bought it as a spare, already have a working one, this one was cheap and sold as "powering up and untested otherwise".

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-08-05, 13:14:

I have a feeling that even if it does turn on that what ever alignment it had for scanning is ..uhh on the floor as part of the puzzle.

All the plastic parts are from the front bezel/door or back bezel screw holes.
The scanning ccd and light source are fixed, only the film holders move.

Got pretty lucky on ebay and got me a Roland MPU-401AT new in the box

lolo799 wrote on 2022-08-05, 12:47:

Just received this film scanner, I hate that kind of puzzle...20220805_142109.jpg

Holy crap did the delivery guy use that poor scanner for target practice. I'm going to guess that the seller just put it in a bow without proper packaging and sent it on its way.

lolo799 wrote on 2022-08-05, 12:47:

Just received this film scanner, I hate that kind of puzzle...20220805_142109.jpg

Holy crap did the delivery guy use that poor scanner for target practice. I'm going to guess that the seller just put it in a bow without proper packaging and sent it on its way.

(Not sure how I double posted. Would a mod mind removing this double post when they have time. Thank you.)

Todays fleamarket finds :
Random stuff i will never use and just put in storage 😁

1x S3 Vision 868-P
1x S3 Trio 64V+
1x S3 Virge DX
1x Geforce 4 MX 440
1x D-Link Network card

I just cant say no if i see a lot like this for 15 Euros. Even if they dont work, they are nice to look at.... 😁
I really wanted to buy less this month... oh well.

lolo799 wrote on 2022-08-05, 12:47:

Just received this film scanner, I hate that kind of puzzle...

I had this happen with a Sony Super 8 video cassette player that I sold. The case shattered into a million pieces during shipping. I did use bubble wrap and other packing material, but I should have packed it thicker.

I'm not sure what kind of plastic this is, but you can't tell in person that it's going to shatter like it. It must explode all at once on impact or something.

frankmonk wrote on 2022-08-05, 15:46:

Got pretty lucky on ebay and got me a Roland MPU-401AT new in the box

That's amazing! I would have bid on it if I had seen it. Good job.

chrismeyer6 wrote on 2022-08-05, 16:46:

lolo799 wrote on 2022-08-05, 12:47:

Just received this film scanner, I hate that kind of puzzle...20220805_142109.jpg

Holy crap did the delivery guy use that poor scanner for target practice. I'm going to guess that the seller just put it in a bow without proper packaging and sent it on its way.

The packaging was somewhat alright, just a bit too loose.
I just tested the scanner and it works fine, not a complete loss.

Just please don't blame the shipping companies. The plastic of this vintage, yes this is the very subject of vintage stuff were formulated badly, simply shatters. I had number of not too old Sharp TVs, less than 10 years old has very fragile plastic that I cannot smack the top to diagnose the problems and yes that was back in 2004-06 timeline. Cannot be glued back together either.

Compaq had this issue very badly from 1990 to 1995 or so. Even had 2 years old in use new in the box purchased in 1993 Compaq LTE 386s/20 developed cracks in the hinges mounts in the lid itself.

Cheers,

lolo799 wrote on 2022-08-05, 19:42:

chrismeyer6 wrote on 2022-08-05, 16:46:

lolo799 wrote on 2022-08-05, 12:47:

Just received this film scanner, I hate that kind of puzzle...20220805_142109.jpg

Holy crap did the delivery guy use that poor scanner for target practice. I'm going to guess that the seller just put it in a bow without proper packaging and sent it on its way.

The packaging was somewhat alright, just a bit too loose.
I just tested the scanner and it works fine, not a complete loss.

It's the same as sending a CRT these days, a heavy object with plastic housing. I wonder what type of plastic that was? The way that's broken suggests to me it's not regular plastic, probably some mix.

My Toshiba Portege 320CT's dock was smashed to bits in a very similar way - I thought the courier had been using it as a football, but the plastic on it is *really* fragile having tried to repair it. I think the Toshiba laptops from the mid-90s used a lot of mixed materials, like ABS or something with glass fibre.
Maybe your Canon film scanner is made of similar plastic? My canon DSLR has a similar kind of plastic: https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/572 … d-camera-bodies
I don't think these special mixed plastics hold up well over time, in my experience they just become brittle.

oh yeah... CRTs...
it doesn't even help if the seller packs it really well, as this one was, and it survived the torture of the postal service at first glance... at least on the outside...

notice that dark spot in the middle?
... the monitor got smashed so hard during shipping apparently that the CRT neck broke off 🙁
at least smashed plastic can be salvaged, this one is a complete writeoff... and it was in nice working condition, it really pains me.

If you liked that model, buy a fugly one and steal the tube out of it.

pentiumspeed wrote on 2022-08-06, 00:15:

Just please don't blame the shipping companies. The plastic of this vintage, yes this is the very subject of vintage stuff were formulated badly, simply shatters. I had number of not too old Sharp TVs, less than 10 years old has very fragile plastic that I cannot smack the top to diagnose the problems and yes that was back in 2004-06 timeline. Cannot be glued back together either.

Compaq had this issue very badly from 1990 to 1995 or so. Even had 2 years old in use new in the box purchased in 1993 Compaq LTE 386s/20 developed cracks in the hinges mounts in the lid itself.

Cheers,

There are good and there bad, but shipping companies can be blamed. I used to work for one. You're supposed to build package walls inside the trailers, which basically form interconnecting "T's". People used to build a "T-wall" about 4-8 feet out, and then lob the packages over them. Unlikely this would happen with a package this large, though. I'm betting it fell off a belt.

With that said, most damage I see doesn't come from the shipping company... it's from the shipper and the lousy packaging.

BitWrangler wrote on 2022-08-06, 00:33:

If you liked that model, buy a fugly one and steal the tube out of it.

yeah, basically the reason I got it, we had the 17" version of it back in the day... I love small CRTs and 15" CRTs are a little harder to find, especially in good condition, and the tube was looking really sharp and bright in the original pictures.
I'll have to somehow carefully extract the tube first and not get glass everwhere, there's loose glass inside... I couldn't really find anything about how sensetive a broken tube is, I'd assume once the vacuum is broken there's not much that can happen?

frankmonk wrote on 2022-08-05, 15:46:

Got pretty lucky on ebay and got me a Roland MPU-401AT new in the box
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Nur echt mit dem Grünen Punkt 😁
I always wonder how people find these things in original boxes.