Could you adapt the hole to take a normal standoff using a nut or something?

rasteri wrote on 2022-08-12, 08:28:

Could you adapt the hole to take a normal standoff using a nut or something?

Here is the case, you see them square holes? That's what the the standoffs clip into. I'm sure someone with the right skill set could fabricate something to work with ease, and with enough time I bet I could too but due to time and wanting a quality finished product I'd much rather try and get the right clips and be done with it without spending days/weeks trying to figure something out only for it to end up looking armature at best.

Maybe some cage nuts for server racks are a base for a new solution.
I imagine a cage nut with a washer on it to screw in regular standoffs or a stack of washers and a longer screw...

DerBaum wrote on 2022-08-12, 11:07:

I imagine a cage nut with a washer on it to screw in regular standoffs or a stack of washers and a longer screw...

Yeah I was just thinking that. If you google "M3 cage nut", "M3 clip nut" or "6-32 cage nut", "6-32 clip nut" etc then you get some promising results.

Some other alternatives here - Re: Where to buy these metal standoffs?

Thanks for the replies, found these on FleaBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/302486046153?hash=it … 1sAAOSwttRZuaBg, they call for a 3/8 square hole and the case has 1/4 inch holes as far as I can measure. Should be able to file the "wings" to fit fairly easily then i'll just measure to see where i'm at for stand off height. Ton's of options for different height standoffs. When they get here and I test fit i'll report back in case anyone else finds this thread in the future.

These are the closest thing that I've found: https://www.ebay.com/itm/274704614636?chn=ps& … XwaAu4BEALw_wcB

Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-08-12, 14:59:

These are the closest thing that I've found:

Some/most motherboards expect the screw holes to be electrically connected to the case. It may not matter though, except for maybe EMI reasons

Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-08-12, 14:59:

These are the closest thing that I've found: https://www.ebay.com/itm/274704614636?chn=ps& … XwaAu4BEALw_wcB

I bought them, they don't fit at all. When you file them they kinds start crumbling apart.

Demo85 wrote on 2022-08-12, 22:16:

Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-08-12, 14:59:

These are the closest thing that I've found: https://www.ebay.com/itm/274704614636?chn=ps& … XwaAu4BEALw_wcB

I bought them, they don't fit at all. When you file them they kinds start crumbling apart.

Good to know, I'll not recommend them again.

These standoffs with that hook is for specific board (particularly of Dell), that has slot in it and is correct height, and this type of case also use another kind of snap in with screw standoff of same height. I had similar case once by Micron to hold a N270 Atom motherboard to control heat output during one hot wave summer long ago during when N270 Atom days was current. This was shortest lived PC ever. Only several months on XP. Did well but little slow.

A quick check of ebay is no luck. My suggestion: Pair of large washers with a nut of correct thread for each standard height brass standoffs should bring to proper height. Needs to adjust some on positioning but easier way is clamp the standoffs with a counter sink screw heads mounted to the motherboard in interest for accurate positioning and install the board on washers and tighten nuts from back. Finish by replacing the screws with standard screws.

Cheers,

I think I have one or two

Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-08-12, 22:20:

Demo85 wrote on 2022-08-12, 22:16:

Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-08-12, 14:59:

These are the closest thing that I've found: https://www.ebay.com/itm/274704614636?chn=ps& … XwaAu4BEALw_wcB

I bought them, they don't fit at all. When you file them they kinds start crumbling apart.

Good to know, I'll not recommend them again.

Yeah, I wish I took some pictures of me messing with them but even the few I could get to fit they didn't snap in as securely as I liked and the vast majority didn't like to be filed and would crumble away as I filed them.

pentiumspeed wrote on 2022-08-12, 23:58:

These standoffs with that hook is for specific board (particularly of Dell), that has slot in it and is correct height, and this type of case also use another kind of snap in with screw standoff of same height. I had similar case once by Micron to hold a N270 Atom motherboard to control heat output during one hot wave summer long ago during when N270 Atom days was current. This was shortest lived PC ever. Only several months on XP. Did well but little slow.

A quick check of ebay is no luck. My suggestion: Pair of large washers with a nut of correct thread for each standard height brass standoffs should bring to proper height. Needs to adjust some on positioning but easier way is clamp the standoffs with a counter sink screw heads mounted to the motherboard in interest for accurate positioning and install the board on washers and tighten nuts from back. Finish by replacing the screws with standard screws.

Cheers,

That not the case, the Dell mobo that comes out of these cases have regular ATX mounting holes in them and I currently have a gigabyte Z77 board for my XP build mounted in with the hook style and it's perfectly oriented with the IO area and expansion card area.

Sphere478 wrote on 2022-08-13, 00:39:

I think I have one or two

I'd love to buy them off ya if your willing.

Many cases used the threaded standoffs in the late nineties to early 2000s, Lian Li and Enlight to name two. My first ever ATX case was an Elan Vital T10 and it also used them. With that in mind, maybe you can find an old case that has them? The Elan Vital would be a good candidate because they are an easy case to dislike. I was given mine by the IT person where I was working in 2001 because she hated them and scrapped them whenever she rebuilt a computer that had one. https://www.pcstats.com/articles/693/index.html

I had a vague recollection of having some of these and had a bit of a hunt around.

Are these suitable?

These are correct ones.

Cheers,

Demo85 wrote on 2022-08-13, 04:29:

Yeah, I wish I took some pictures of me messing with them but even the few I could get to fit they didn't snap in as securely as […]
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Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-08-12, 22:20:

Demo85 wrote on 2022-08-12, 22:16:

I bought them, they don't fit at all. When you file them they kinds start crumbling apart.

Good to know, I'll not recommend them again.

Yeah, I wish I took some pictures of me messing with them but even the few I could get to fit they didn't snap in as securely as I liked and the vast majority didn't like to be filed and would crumble away as I filed them.

pentiumspeed wrote on 2022-08-12, 23:58:

These standoffs with that hook is for specific board (particularly of Dell), that has slot in it and is correct height, and this type of case also use another kind of snap in with screw standoff of same height. I had similar case once by Micron to hold a N270 Atom motherboard to control heat output during one hot wave summer long ago during when N270 Atom days was current. This was shortest lived PC ever. Only several months on XP. Did well but little slow.

A quick check of ebay is no luck. My suggestion: Pair of large washers with a nut of correct thread for each standard height brass standoffs should bring to proper height. Needs to adjust some on positioning but easier way is clamp the standoffs with a counter sink screw heads mounted to the motherboard in interest for accurate positioning and install the board on washers and tighten nuts from back. Finish by replacing the screws with standard screws.

Cheers,

That not the case, the Dell mobo that comes out of these cases have regular ATX mounting holes in them and I currently have a gigabyte Z77 board for my XP build mounted in with the hook style and it's perfectly oriented with the IO area and expansion card area.

Sphere478 wrote on 2022-08-13, 00:39:

I think I have one or two

I'd love to buy them off ya if your willing.

Pm me, I can check what I have.

rasteri wrote on 2022-08-12, 11:57:

DerBaum wrote on 2022-08-12, 11:07:

I imagine a cage nut with a washer on it to screw in regular standoffs or a stack of washers and a longer screw...

Yeah I was just thinking that. If you google "M3 cage nut", "M3 clip nut" or "6-32 cage nut", "6-32 clip nut" etc then you get some promising results.

Some other alternatives here - Re: Where to buy these metal standoffs?

Rack bolts are way, way, way too large to fit through motherboard holes.

Ricimer wrote on 2022-08-13, 13:33:

I had a vague recollection of having some of these and had a bit of a hunt around.

Are these suitable?

They look close, could you measure the width of the clips?

cyclone3d wrote on 2022-08-13, 22:16:

rasteri wrote on 2022-08-12, 11:57:

DerBaum wrote on 2022-08-12, 11:07:

I imagine a cage nut with a washer on it to screw in regular standoffs or a stack of washers and a longer screw...

Yeah I was just thinking that. If you google "M3 cage nut", "M3 clip nut" or "6-32 cage nut", "6-32 clip nut" etc then you get some promising results.

Some other alternatives here - Re: Where to buy these metal standoffs?

Rack bolts are way, way, way too large to fit through motherboard holes.

Yea, they're usually M6 iirc.