You may need to use PUSH_META, CLEAR_META and POP_META. At the moment for Win-E it's probably doing Alt-Win-E.

For example, on a Model F I've used this:

1	macro F2 RALT
2		PUSH_META CLEAR_META RALT
3		PRESS F12
4		POP_META
5	endmacro

to put F12 on RAlt-F2, having previously put RALT on Caps-Lock.

snufkin wrote on 2022-09-05, 09:32:

You may need to use PUSH_META, CLEAR_META and POP_META. At the moment for Win-E it's probably doing Alt-Win-E. […]
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You may need to use PUSH_META, CLEAR_META and POP_META. At the moment for Win-E it's probably doing Alt-Win-E.

For example, on a Model F I've used this:

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1	macro F2 RALT
2		PUSH_META CLEAR_META RALT
3		PRESS F12
4		POP_META
5	endmacro

to put F12 on RAlt-F2, having previously put RALT on Caps-Lock.

I tried putting those meta codes in, now the programmer is giving me an "INVALID ARGUMENT" error on line 15.

1# Layers
2layerblock
3  # Layers here
4endblock
5
6# Remappings
7remapblock
8  # Remappings here
9endblock
10
11# Macros
12macroblock
13  # Macros here
14    macro E LALT
15      PUSH_META CLEAR_META LGUI
16      PRESS E
17      POP_META LGUI
18    endmacro
19
20   macro G LALT
21      PUSH_META CLEAR_META LGUI
22      PRESS G
23      POP_META LGUI
24   endmacro
25
26  macro PAUSE RALT
27      PUSH_META CLEAR_META RGUI
28      PRESS PAUSE
29      POP_META RGUI
30  endmacro
31endblock

I think it needs to be CLEAR_META RALT (for the Right Alt key), and then just POP_META

I can't test it right now, but something like:

1macro E LALT
2  PUSH_META CLEAR_META LALT
3  MAKE LGUI
4  PRESS E
5  BREAK LGUI
6  POP_META
7endmacro

That should execute the macro with Left-Alt+E. First it clears the Left-Alt, then holds down the Win key, then presses and releases 'E', releases the Win key and finally puts the Alt key back as it was (held down).

snufkin wrote on 2022-09-05, 16:11:

I think it needs to be CLEAR_META RALT (for the Right Alt key), and then just POP_META […]
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I think it needs to be CLEAR_META RALT (for the Right Alt key), and then just POP_META

I can't test it right now, but something like:

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1macro E LALT
2  PUSH_META CLEAR_META LALT
3  MAKE LGUI
4  PRESS E
5  BREAK LGUI
6  POP_META
7endmacro

That should execute the macro with Left-Alt+E. First it clears the Left-Alt, then holds down the Win key, then presses and releases 'E', releases the Win key and finally puts the Alt key back as it was (held down).

I'm still getting the same error on line 15. Here's what my code looks like now.

1# Layers
2layerblock
3  # Layers here
4endblock
5
6# Remappings
7remapblock
8  # Remappings here
9endblock
10
11# Macros
12macroblock
13 # Macros here
14 macro E LALT
15  PUSH_META CLEAR_META LALT
16  MAKE LGUI
17  PRESS E
18  BREAK LGUI
19  POP_META
20 endmacro
21
22 macro G LALT
23  PUSH_META CLEAR_META LALT
24  MAKE LGUI
25  PRESS G
26  BREAK LGUI
27  POP_META
28 endmacro
29
30 macro PAUSE RALT
31  PUSH_META CLEAR_META RALT
32  MAKE RGUI
33  PRESS PAUSE
34  BREAK RGUI
35  POP_META
36 endmacro
37endblock

Lylat1an wrote on 2022-09-05, 17:24:

On a hunch, I converted the spaces at the beginning of the code lines to tabs, and they were all accepted.

But the shortcuts aren't activating.

1# Layers
2layerblock
3	# Layers here
4endblock
5
6# Remappings
7remapblock
8	# Remappings here
9endblock
10
11# Macros
12macroblock
13	# Macros here
14	macro E LALT
15		CLEAR_META LALT
16		MAKE LGUI
17		PRESS E
18		BREAK LGUI
19		SET_META LALT
20	endmacro
21
22	macro G LALT
23		CLEAR_META LALT
24		MAKE LGUI
25		PRESS G
26		BREAK LGUI
27		SET_META LALT
28	endmacro
29
30	macro PAUSE RALT
31		CLEAR_META RALT
32		MAKE RGUI
33		PRESS PAUSE
34		BREAK RGUI
35		SET_META LALT
36	endmacro
37endblock

This code was accepted as well, but the shortcuts don't operate either.

1# Layers
2layerblock
3	# Layers here
4endblock
5
6# Remappings
7remapblock
8	# Remappings here
9endblock
10
11# Macros
12macroblock
13	# Macros here
14	macro E LALT
15		PUSH_META CLEAR_META LALT
16		MAKE LGUI
17		PRESS E
18		BREAK LGUI
19		POP_META
20	endmacro
21
22	macro G LALT
23		PUSH_META CLEAR_META LALT
24		MAKE LGUI
25		PRESS G
26		BREAK LGUI
27		POP_META
28	endmacro
29
30	macro PAUSE RALT
31		PUSH_META CLEAR_META RALT
32		MAKE RGUI
33		PRESS PAUSE
34		BREAK RGUI
35		POP_META
36	endmacro
37endblock

Just read some of the documentation. The GUI keys look to be part of the meta keys, so maybe try:
SET_META LGUI and CLEAR_META LGUI rather than MAKE and BREAK

snufkin wrote on 2022-09-05, 18:29:

Just read some of the documentation. The GUI keys look to be part of the meta keys, so maybe try:
SET_META LGUI and CLEAR_META LGUI rather than MAKE and BREAK

It's still not working. I even tried simply remapping the LGUI and LALT keys without macros, that doesn't work either.

1# Layers
2layerblock
3	# Layers here
4endblock
5
6# Remappings
7remapblock
8	# Remappings here
9	LALT LGUI
10	LGUI LALT
11endblock
12
13# Macros
14macroblock
15	# Macros here
16endblock

Could the problem be that my keyboard simply doesn't have the GUI keys? I thought the converter in the cable would generate them anyway.

Yeah, the converter should be able to produce any key combination. The Model F has loads of missing keys, so that shouldn't be a problem. In my case I remapped F10 to LGUI, then could just use that. To get F10 I use RALT+F10.

Two things that might be useful to check are loading an even simpler config, and running hid_listen to find out what key code is being sent when you press the ALT key.

Something like:

1remapblock
2  Z A
3endblock

That should make the Z key type an 'a'. If it doesn't then it's likely there's something wrong with programming the converter. In Soarer's documentation it looks like LALT should show up as E2 in hid_listen and LGUI should be E3.

snufkin wrote on 2022-09-05, 21:49:

Yeah, the converter should be able to produce any key combination. The Model F has loads of missing keys, so that shouldn't be a […]
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Yeah, the converter should be able to produce any key combination. The Model F has loads of missing keys, so that shouldn't be a problem. In my case I remapped F10 to LGUI, then could just use that. To get F10 I use RALT+F10.

Two things that might be useful to check are loading an even simpler config, and running hid_listen to find out what key code is being sent when you press the ALT key.

Something like:

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1remapblock
2  Z A
3endblock

That should make the Z key type an 'a'. If it doesn't then it's likely there's something wrong with programming the converter. In Soarer's documentation it looks like LALT should show up as E2 in hid_listen and LGUI should be E3.

I ordered two of these converters, and neither seem to be working.

I'll contact the vendor, thanks for your assistance.

Do you have the various software tools for the converter, like scinfo? If you run that with the converter attached then it should tell you what version of the firmware the converter has. You can also use scrd to read the current config binary, then compare it with the one you've compiled yourself.