The Serpent Rider wrote on 2022-12-04, 15:08:
That's synthetic benchmark - not relevant.
All the benchmarks make both cards fail more or less, and one game kills 8800.
I'm not here to contradict you, but knowing that your weak lane will bite you someday is OK thinking, but knowing which combination of game and GPU(VRAM) is impossible, hence I see PCIx4 as a trap still.
These cards are much newer and tested on Ivy Bridge platform. With games which also way too new for any potential retro-setup.
I still don't get that, is that article a repeat of 8800? Because 680 is a beefy card.
rasz_pl wrote on 2022-12-04, 16:48:
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Switched to 2.0 x16 and max settings average 100fps, max 160fps, 1% min 57fps. Funny irrelevant anecdote.
That's what I'm trying to find out from The Serpent Rider, he's a bit more savvy about this.
timsdf wrote on 2022-12-04, 14:31:
Asrock website does not claim w98 support but VIA PT880 Pro/ultra chipset has VIA hyperion drivers with w98 compatibility. They work fine, SATA2 model does not have drivers but works otherwise fine too.
I didn't know that. I mean, I know you could go to Intel for example for a chipset driver for your mobo, but if a manufacturer killed/didn't provide the support in the first place, chances are that the part manufacturer also doesn't have it.
And "driverless" or "lacks one specific driver" builds have some horror stories.
Plus a bunch of "unknown devices" which are 99% of the time harmless, but if one decides to act up (or is quietly killing the system)...
Bit bummed out now knowing these mobos actually worke, my criteria was always to check if there are drivers on the net for that mobo/OS.
I like having one computer platform support for win98 and xp with options for any video card between 2000-2011 . Basically covers anything I'm going to do with said PC.
Sure, but you can fit only so much in a PC. Not counting period correct builds, there still is a limit, and especially if you want more than one GPU driver.
Or god forbid, disk fails (yes, I know, RAID/disk cloning).
Ivy/Sandy + GTX700/900 sounds delicious and covers 2000-2013 and more, and you can even "unofficial it" to Haswell...
Just kinda feel better knowing that if one era build fails, it's just that one. OTOH those will probably fail sooner than a new multi-system, eh I dunno.
Price conversation is always difficult, depends on your patience, luck and local area. I don't pay more than 20€ for old PC parts. Ebay prices are funny. 8800 cards have been very common and could be had for free locally here. Never owned 6000, 7000 series gpus.
Yeah, patience I have, luck, local area, and gold nuggets is what's killing me softly.
Also, how something can suddenly become "retro/vintage" is crap, and I'm not talking in a time flies sense.
Half of things considered retro in tech world is e-waste, not in a bad sense, "scavenging" has a charm to it, but yeah, eBayou prices...
Phil makes a Conroe build, suddenly everyone needs one, okay supply/demand, but you ain't convincing me it's now worth up to 500$.
GPU list I have used in one of these boards:
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See, that's what doesn't fit in one huge "all OS" system. Still like the idea, but maybe a few chunks are better?
Main reason for a lot of people using DUAL-VSTA and 4coredual-VSTA is they are cheap, plentiful and mostly capacitor plague free. Older 775Dual-880Pro model has more capacitor issues.
But 775DUAL-VSTA and 4CoreDual-VSTA have that PCIEx4, that kinda loses it's effect by the end of 2000/early 2010s, unless you have a beefy 2010s GPU that can take the PCIEx4 hit.
Also, have an incoming 775Dual-880Pro, thanks for ruining it.
Did cap plague affect early 2000s, like early 478 and late 370 sockets? Dumb question, but it did also affect AMD mobos?