Well, my secondary reason for wanting to post the stuff is that the card doesn't seem to want to work properly, and I feel like it's something simple... but I definitely need some help in figuring it out, and I think the card schematic would make it much easier to do so.

The company that owns the IP is still going, but at this point the device is so massively outdated that I highly doubt there is anything sensitive about this information. People are, quite literally, building and selling modern cards that use similar chips and do as much or more than this.

Anyway... we'll see. 😁

I seem to be on a roll recently. Managed to get all this from two generous locals today.

ATI Rage II +DVD - Some bent pins on the main chip. When I tried to bend them back, one of them came clean off. Don't think I'll be saving it.
ATI Radeon 32M
ATI Rage 128
ATI 9600XT
ATI 9250

NVidia FX 5200
NVidia Geforce 3 Ti 200 - No bracket. Not sure what to do about that yet.
Matrox G450
NVidia TNT 2 Ultra - Bent the bracket back in shape. The fan was barely working, so I attached a heatsink with a adhesive thermal pad and screwed a small fan into it. I'd like to find a heatsink solution that uses the mounting holes, but I'm not sure if that's something that would be readily available.

Avance Logic ALS4000
Aureal Vortex AU8820
BTC 1817D OPTi 92C931

SB 16 CT4180
SB AWE 64 CT4380
SB Pro 2 CT1600 - Two of them! On the same day! How does that even happen?

Panasonic floppy drive
32MB of RAM
200MHz Pentium MMX
Gigabyte GA-586HX rev 1.55 - Managed to find a patched BIOS to fix the large HDD bug, but it wasn't straight forward. Needed to use archive.org on a dead link to find a copy of it. Now, other than the dead battery, it seems to be working great.

So the Rage II+DVD seems to be the only dud, and I'm not gonna lose sleep over that. I haven't had time to really put everything through its paces, but all the sound cards output music and sound effects, and all the video cards are showing a clean image. And the few I've tested in 3D have been good there too.

Phew, what a day!

I'm sure that some people here would gladly take care of this hypothetical CD for you if you that's something you would be uncomfortable dealing with.

Scored an AOpen AX4BS. Probably working, but just to be sure I'll test it up after posting this. Came with 2x256MB PC133 SDR (yes, it's SDR) and a 1.7GHz WIllie.

Otherwise, not much, just two LGA775 machines (one is a Pentium Dual Core machine, that's as much as I know.) and a nice silver/black coloured A4Tech PS/2 keyboard.

Picked up another Slot 1 motherboard and a few other things.

A TEAC Floppy

Sony Vaio mouse to go with my "Not so Sony, Sony" build.

And a MS optical that was pretty dirty and had color stains on it but felt it cleaned up pretty good.

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2023-01-22, 07:20:

the card doesn't seem to want to work properly, and I feel like it's something simple... but I definitely need some help in figuring it out, and I think the card schematic would make it much easier to do so.

Ahhh, did this particular card ever work though? I am not entirely sure that the material you've got will be a fast track to getting it working if it was an early alpha. What might make more sense is to look for high res photos of early known to work revisions and compare them. Small difference might get it working, large differences, uh oh. Check part numbers of main ASIC too if custom, if you've got an earlier than known spin, that might not have worked right and almost nothing you can do on the PCB will correct it. (Otherwise that revision would have released with external circuit mods.)

danieljm wrote on 2023-01-22, 08:10:

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I seem to be on a roll recently. Managed to get all this from two generous locals today.

IMG_0347.JPEG

ATI Rage II +DVD - Some bent pins on the main chip. When I tried to bend them back, one of them came clean off. Don't think I'll be saving it.
ATI Radeon 32M
ATI Rage 128
ATI 9600XT
ATI 9250

IMG_0346.JPEG

NVidia FX 5200
NVidia Geforce 3 Ti 200 - No bracket. Not sure what to do about that yet.
Matrox G450
NVidia TNT 2 Ultra - Bent the bracket back in shape. The fan was barely working, so I attached a heatsink with a adhesive thermal pad and screwed a small fan into it. I'd like to find a heatsink solution that uses the mounting holes, but I'm not sure if that's something that would be readily available.

IMG_0348.JPEG

Avance Logic ALS4000
Aureal Vortex AU8820
BTC 1817D OPTi 92C931

IMG_0349.JPEG

SB 16 CT4180
SB AWE 64 CT4380
SB Pro 2 CT1600 - Two of them! On the same day! How does that even happen?

IMG_0350.JPEG

Panasonic floppy drive
32MB of RAM
200MHz Pentium MMX
Gigabyte GA-586HX rev 1.55 - Managed to find a patched BIOS to fix the large HDD bug, but it wasn't straight forward. Needed to use archive.org on a dead link to find a copy of it. Now, other than the dead battery, it seems to be working great.

So the Rage II+DVD seems to be the only dud, and I'm not gonna lose sleep over that. I haven't had time to really put everything through its paces, but all the sound cards output music and sound effects, and all the video cards are showing a clean image. And the few I've tested in 3D have been good there too.

Phew, what a day!

Woohooo, awesome haul. Shame about that RageII but I wouldn't trash it, demand for 32bit PCI Video cards has been going nuts the last year or so, so someone might wanna try fixing it, even if it means digging out enough contact to solder to.

Vanessaira wrote on 2023-01-22, 13:00:

Picked up another Slot 1 motherboard and a few other things.

>P2B-LS
Nice find!👍 Any idea why the lower ISA slot is missing?

liqmat wrote on 2023-01-21, 21:33:

HanJammer wrote on 2023-01-21, 21:11:

I would rather say A500 is a clone of this case. InWin cases are cheaply built compared to this one - it even has powdercoated black chassis and better quality materials in general...

The A500 is a very solid case and certainly not cheaply built, but hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion. To each their own.

Compared to the cheapest options from this era - yes, it's pretty solid, but compared to the case mentioned in this thread or some other quality options like Enlight EN-7230 for example, yes, it's pretty cheaply built.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2023-01-22, 07:20:

Well, my secondary reason for wanting to post the stuff is that the card doesn't seem to want to work properly, and I feel like it's something simple... but I definitely need some help in figuring it out, and I think the card schematic would make it much easier to do so.

The company that owns the IP is still going, but at this point the device is so massively outdated that I highly doubt there is anything sensitive about this information. People are, quite literally, building and selling modern cards that use similar chips and do as much or more than this.

Anyway... we'll see. 😁

Contact the company directly, they really appreciate talked to and see if they allow this to go into public domain or share yours with directly to that Vintage Computer Federation on https://vcfed.org/
VCF has deep knowledge dealing with kind of these sensitive IP issues to get permission from company like this.

IP does have finite life and many time very old IP is usually forced into public or shared if sued by another company.

Cheers,

HanJammer wrote on 2023-01-22, 16:22:

liqmat wrote on 2023-01-21, 21:33:

HanJammer wrote on 2023-01-21, 21:11:

I would rather say A500 is a clone of this case. InWin cases are cheaply built compared to this one - it even has powdercoated black chassis and better quality materials in general...

The A500 is a very solid case and certainly not cheaply built, but hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion. To each their own.

Compared to the cheapest options from this era - yes, it's pretty solid, but compared to the case mentioned in this thread or some other quality options like Enlight EN-7230 for example, yes, it's pretty cheaply built.

Like I said. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I had both of those cases, at one point, in multiples. The Enlight case you mention, in my opinion, was nowhere near as solid of a case as the A500. This is a niche hobby with many options to choose from. As long as you're happy with what you have, that's all that matters.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2023-01-22, 04:03:

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You would be fine in that situation. Lots of people have released that kind of stuff under their regular identities, in fact pretty much everyone has. The only times it's ever been sued over is when what's been released is either still for sale or still part of the backbone of something for sale, but then that risk then gets mitigated by throwing it up on an anonymous imageboard using a Mega link. Here's something to consider: you aren't under an NDA, the company this came from is.

This Laguna 3D (CL5465) card + tv tuner + an odd AM receiver addon... (k174xa2)

Doornkaat wrote on 2023-01-22, 15:07:

Vanessaira wrote on 2023-01-22, 13:00:

Picked up another Slot 1 motherboard and a few other things.

>P2B-LS
Nice find!👍 Any idea why the lower ISA slot is missing?

Yeah, my friends and I were wondering the same.

Does not appear to be missing components from other versions that have the second slot.

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BitWrangler wrote on 2023-01-22, 14:58:

danieljm wrote on 2023-01-22, 08:10:

I seem to be on a roll recently. Managed to get all this from two generous locals today. […]
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I seem to be on a roll recently. Managed to get all this from two generous locals today.

IMG_0347.JPEG

ATI Rage II +DVD - Some bent pins on the main chip. When I tried to bend them back, one of them came clean off. Don't think I'll be saving it.
ATI Radeon 32M
ATI Rage 128
ATI 9600XT
ATI 9250

IMG_0346.JPEG

NVidia FX 5200
NVidia Geforce 3 Ti 200 - No bracket. Not sure what to do about that yet.
Matrox G450
NVidia TNT 2 Ultra - Bent the bracket back in shape. The fan was barely working, so I attached a heatsink with a adhesive thermal pad and screwed a small fan into it. I'd like to find a heatsink solution that uses the mounting holes, but I'm not sure if that's something that would be readily available.

IMG_0348.JPEG

Avance Logic ALS4000
Aureal Vortex AU8820
BTC 1817D OPTi 92C931

IMG_0349.JPEG

SB 16 CT4180
SB AWE 64 CT4380
SB Pro 2 CT1600 - Two of them! On the same day! How does that even happen?

IMG_0350.JPEG

Panasonic floppy drive
32MB of RAM
200MHz Pentium MMX
Gigabyte GA-586HX rev 1.55 - Managed to find a patched BIOS to fix the large HDD bug, but it wasn't straight forward. Needed to use archive.org on a dead link to find a copy of it. Now, other than the dead battery, it seems to be working great.

So the Rage II+DVD seems to be the only dud, and I'm not gonna lose sleep over that. I haven't had time to really put everything through its paces, but all the sound cards output music and sound effects, and all the video cards are showing a clean image. And the few I've tested in 3D have been good there too.

Phew, what a day!

Woohooo, awesome haul. Shame about that RageII but I wouldn't trash it, demand for 32bit PCI Video cards has been going nuts the last year or so, so someone might wanna try fixing it, even if it means digging out enough contact to solder to.

I hear ya. I'm certainly going to hold onto it. If I eventually get one of those digital microscopes I might take a shot at it, but I'm not sure I'm ready to make that jump yet. 😁

The more likely scenario is that I'll come across someone who will take it off my hands first though.

I didn’t buy it or receive it today, but last week I purchased a combo Itox/DFI G7S620 Socket 775 motherboard with a Pentium 4 651 (3.4GHz) and 2GB of DDR-400 memory hoping it would make an excellent retro rocket for Windows NT 3.1 and OS/2 1.3/2.0. I just started sincerely testing the board yesterday, and I find myself profoundly disappointed.

To begin, the board does not appear to work with my ATI Graphics Ultra Pro (Mach32, PCI) in any high-resolution modes regardless of the OS. I only get massive screen corruption in any mode outside of text and VGA. This is a known good card that works in my Itox/DFI G4V620 board. The G7S620 also has issues with my Matrox Millennium in OS/2 2.1 (blank screen when transitioning to GUI mode).

I don’t see any physical damage on the board, and the caps all look good. I also cleaned all of the slots in case some dust kept the cards from making good contact. I suspect that the board has some issue with PCI signal timing, but the G7S620 BIOS doesn’t offer any options to change the PCI timings like my G4V620 (DFI also does not have a newer BIOS to download).

Finally, Windows NT 3.1 has some sort of issue on this board despite working with my Matrox Impression Plus video card. Windows NT 3.1 seems to have an intermittent data transfer problem which causes the drives to stutter regardless of when I connect devices to the SATA ports or the IDE ports.

I don’t know if I got a lemon, or if this board just isn’t that great for my application by nature. Like I said, I feel very disappointed.

Hmm I suspect the computer isn’t the issue here but rather the os you are trying to use with it.

Both the operating systems you are trying to use here are 486/Pentium era and likely don’t have any support for the modern hardware you are using.

Now it might be possible to Frankenstein something that works but it won’t be a pleasant experience. Might be worth dropping back to Pentium II early PIII hardware.

danieljm wrote on 2023-01-22, 08:10:

SB Pro 2 CT1600 - Two of them! On the same day! How does that even happen?

Two different revisions of the SBPro2 CT1600 and the left one has an oscillator crystal onboard to boot! 😁

TrashPanda wrote on 2023-01-22, 23:36:

Hmm I suspect the computer isn’t the issue here but rather the os you are trying to use with it.

You might be right; then again, that's the whole point of this build.

NT 3.1, Windows MME (3.0a), and OS/2 2.x only have audio drivers for ISA-based sound cards, so I wanted a super fast motherboard that still had full capability for ISA sound. The G7S620 was one of the last boards made with fully functional ISA slots.

All of these OS's run just fine with a variety of PCI graphics cards (the ones I noted in my previous post) on my G4V620 with a P4 2.8GHz and 2GB of DDR-333 memory. I frankly expected the G7S620 to boot and run each OS the same, just faster (the presence of integrated SATA ports and a real AGP slot would have been icing on the cake). Unfortunately, a number of my PCI cards had issues on it. Very frustrating.

Vanessaira wrote on 2023-01-22, 19:41:

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Doornkaat wrote on 2023-01-22, 15:07:

Vanessaira wrote on 2023-01-22, 13:00:

Picked up another Slot 1 motherboard and a few other things.

>P2B-LS
Nice find!👍 Any idea why the lower ISA slot is missing?

Yeah, my friends and I were wondering the same.

Does not appear to be missing components from other versions that have the second slot.
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Oh, that looks like the connector has been desoldered. The through holes are a little damaged and one via on the left took a bit of a beating from what looks like someone leveraging the connector with a flat head screw driver but it doesn't look like anything is too damaged to just solder a new connector back in.
Makes me wonder why this board was chosen as a donor. Have you tested it yet? Fingers crossed for it to work!