Sure, go for it 😀

agent_x007 wrote on 2023-02-15, 05:44:

Sure, go for it 😀

Wow, you are still there!

So tell me, what kind of results you want, only in Windows XP 32bit ambient obviously?

Basicly the same things I tested here.
WinXP 3DMark 99MAX/2000/01SE/03/06 (all default presets) + Quake III (settings in first post) + DOOM3 (Ultra 1024x768) + Crysis (again, settings in first post). If you could test multiple presets for Crysis (example : Low @ FHD + Med @ 1024x768) - it would be great.
Thank you !

agent_x007 wrote on 2023-02-25, 10:42:

Basicly the same things I tested here.
WinXP 3DMark 99MAX/2000/01SE/03/06 (all default presets) + Quake III (settings in first post) + DOOM3 (Ultra 1024x768) + Crysis (again, settings in first post). If you could test multiple presets for Crysis (example : Low @ FHD + Med @ 1024x768) - it would be great.
Thank you !

Sure I will, but I think I have to wait for another HD3850 video card.

Today I power on my system to make some benchmark as you asked me, but unfortunately the video card seems dead. Bad lines on the monitor just from the beginning on the bios screen.

I tried to reseat the video card, I tryed to clean contact, I demounted the heatsink and reapply the thermal paste, I tried to cook her with my Bosch heat gun.

Nothing change. Always that damned lines and video corruption, and the funny thing is that yesterday I made a flash boot only to see if the system was ok (It was powered off from about two years) and all worked right. Today not, today seems that the VGA is dead.

So sad.

Oh no 🙁

biessea wrote on 2023-02-25, 15:25:

Sure I will, but I think I have to wait for another HD3850 video card. […]
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agent_x007 wrote on 2023-02-25, 10:42:

Basicly the same things I tested here.
WinXP 3DMark 99MAX/2000/01SE/03/06 (all default presets) + Quake III (settings in first post) + DOOM3 (Ultra 1024x768) + Crysis (again, settings in first post). If you could test multiple presets for Crysis (example : Low @ FHD + Med @ 1024x768) - it would be great.
Thank you !

Sure I will, but I think I have to wait for another HD3850 video card.

Today I power on my system to make some benchmark as you asked me, but unfortunately the video card seems dead. Bad lines on the monitor just from the beginning on the bios screen.

I tried to reseat the video card, I tryed to clean contact, I demounted the heatsink and reapply the thermal paste, I tried to cook her with my Bosch heat gun.

Nothing change. Always that damned lines and video corruption, and the funny thing is that yesterday I made a flash boot only to see if the system was ok (It was powered off from about two years) and all worked right. Today not, today seems that the VGA is dead.

So sad.

Hi, it sounds like a dead vram module, you can use the nvidia mats to check who's the culprit and then replace it, now GDDR3 modules are pretty cheap.

McM4r wrote on 2023-02-25, 17:51:

biessea wrote on 2023-02-25, 15:25:

Sure I will, but I think I have to wait for another HD3850 video card. […]
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agent_x007 wrote on 2023-02-25, 10:42:

Basicly the same things I tested here.
WinXP 3DMark 99MAX/2000/01SE/03/06 (all default presets) + Quake III (settings in first post) + DOOM3 (Ultra 1024x768) + Crysis (again, settings in first post). If you could test multiple presets for Crysis (example : Low @ FHD + Med @ 1024x768) - it would be great.
Thank you !

Sure I will, but I think I have to wait for another HD3850 video card.

Today I power on my system to make some benchmark as you asked me, but unfortunately the video card seems dead. Bad lines on the monitor just from the beginning on the bios screen.

I tried to reseat the video card, I tryed to clean contact, I demounted the heatsink and reapply the thermal paste, I tried to cook her with my Bosch heat gun.

Nothing change. Always that damned lines and video corruption, and the funny thing is that yesterday I made a flash boot only to see if the system was ok (It was powered off from about two years) and all worked right. Today not, today seems that the VGA is dead.

So sad.

Hi, it sounds like a dead vram module, you can use the nvidia mats to check who's the culprit and then replace it, now GDDR3 modules are pretty cheap.

Yes It sounds right, it's without doubts a vram module.

How can I use the Nvidia maths? I never heard before of this;

And how can I replace a vram module sorry? I don't have a bga soldering station, I'm not a professionist.

biessea wrote on 2023-02-26, 00:18:

Yes It sounds right, it's without doubts a vram module. […]
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McM4r wrote on 2023-02-25, 17:51:

biessea wrote on 2023-02-25, 15:25:

Sure I will, but I think I have to wait for another HD3850 video card. […]
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Sure I will, but I think I have to wait for another HD3850 video card.

Today I power on my system to make some benchmark as you asked me, but unfortunately the video card seems dead. Bad lines on the monitor just from the beginning on the bios screen.

I tried to reseat the video card, I tryed to clean contact, I demounted the heatsink and reapply the thermal paste, I tried to cook her with my Bosch heat gun.

Nothing change. Always that damned lines and video corruption, and the funny thing is that yesterday I made a flash boot only to see if the system was ok (It was powered off from about two years) and all worked right. Today not, today seems that the VGA is dead.

So sad.

Hi, it sounds like a dead vram module, you can use the nvidia mats to check who's the culprit and then replace it, now GDDR3 modules are pretty cheap.

Yes It sounds right, it's without doubts a vram module.

How can I use the Nvidia maths? I never heard before of this;

And how can I replace a vram module sorry? I don't have a bga soldering station, I'm not a professionist.

You can make a bootable usb with the software, on internet there are plenty of tutorials is not quite hard and if you don’t have the soldering skills like me 😅 you can go to a repair shop to do the job, just make sure is a reputable one. Sooner I will do the same but I’m looking to make a vram upgrade (1gb) just need to find a second hd 3850 agp.

McM4r wrote on 2023-02-26, 07:47:

biessea wrote on 2023-02-26, 00:18:

Yes It sounds right, it's without doubts a vram module. […]
Show full quote

McM4r wrote on 2023-02-25, 17:51:

Hi, it sounds like a dead vram module, you can use the nvidia mats to check who's the culprit and then replace it, now GDDR3 modules are pretty cheap.

Yes It sounds right, it's without doubts a vram module.

How can I use the Nvidia maths? I never heard before of this;

And how can I replace a vram module sorry? I don't have a bga soldering station, I'm not a professionist.

You can make a bootable usb with the software, on internet there are plenty of tutorials is not quite hard and if you don’t have the soldering skills like me 😅 you can go to a repair shop to do the job, just make sure is a reputable one. Sooner I will do the same but I’m looking to make a vram upgrade (1gb) just need to find a second hd 3850 agp.

Please let me know how to do and if you succeed. Thanks

Anyway I tried to understand more about that software, and begin troubles.

I cannot find a file to download.

In a youtube video I saw and tried to understand, but it seems really complicate.

You have to edit texts files, you have to know good what tests to do, I am completely discomforted now, it is too complicate to use.

And most importantly, I haven't found any site where download the program even for AMD/ATi cards.

Ok, today is arriced another hd3850 AGP.

Tonite or perhaps tomorrow morning I will share more results in my Phenom II quad core system.

Here I am with the 3dMark results.

Enjoy! 😀

biessea wrote on 2023-02-26, 08:58:

Anyway I tried to understand more about that software, and begin troubles. […]
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Anyway I tried to understand more about that software, and begin troubles.

I cannot find a file to download.

In a youtube video I saw and tried to understand, but it seems really complicate.

You have to edit texts files, you have to know good what tests to do, I am completely discomforted now, it is too complicate to use.

And most importantly, I haven't found any site where download the program even for AMD/ATi cards.

Hi mate sorry for the delay in response, search in yt “how to test amd Radeon gpu ram memory” by learn electronics repair, in the description u will find the iso and scripts, the software is Linux based, I can confirm that even this software works with the X series agp gpus (tested on x1950 pro agp). Good luck 👍🏼

If there's any interest I did a video on AGP 3850 vs AGP 4670 recently - https://youtu.be/jdw5Su5kpRE

Motherboard: ASRock 4CoreDual-VSTA (modded bios)
RAM: 4gb (3.25gb in XP) Kingston Hyper-X DDR2 at 4-4-4-12 timings
CPU: Core 2 E7600 at stock 3.06ghz

the 4670 is a bit memory bandwidth starved, some of the best 4670s for PCIe had 2GHz vram I think, the AGPs are more along 1.6, I wonder if the 4670 AGP can OC the memory well, that could prove useful

There are three (3) versions of HIS HD 4670 AGP card, all with GDDR3 memory.
First one with 1333MHz clock, second with 1600MHz, and last one with ~1750MHz clock.
1600MHz version I own isn't stable at 1750MHz.
PCIe HD 4670s gets 2GHz effective VRAM (GDDR4).
Also, there are a few less good versions of HD 4670 with DDR2 memory, with various memory speeds (up to 1200MHz IIRC).

I just bought a Powercolor HD4670 AGP, unfortunately with GDDR3 at 667mhz (1333mhz). Overdrive isn't working, the card is factory "blocked" to these frequencies. So I had to editing the bios through Radeon Bios Editor successfully. Removing the overdrive limits doesn't make the card work, but editing frequencies through RBE and flash the bios is the way to make it work. Now I reached 790mhz for the Vram (1580mhz) and 840mhz for the GPU. It pass all the 3dmark tests (03-05-06) and now I just want to see if it's stable gaming.
Anyway I don't want to push more from the Vram cause I think that at 800mhz the timings will probably switch to more conservative values. Isn't it? I am correct?
Obviousl having the memory width larger will probably match to the hd3850 values, for now I just want to put my HD4670 and its values on that three syntethics tests.

Take a look, I think they are so good. Phenom II system at 4ghz, DDR2 at 800mhz.

They indeed look OK (a bit less than I thought, but different platform/drivers can be the cause).
Thank you.

biessea wrote on 2025-12-26, 15:40:

I just bought a Powercolor HD4670 AGP, unfortunately with GDDR3 at 667mhz (1333mhz). Overdrive isn't working, the card is factory "blocked" to these frequencies. So I had to editing the bios through Radeon Bios Editor

You don't need to do anything that complicated. Just use ATi Tray Tools. It's a bit wonky on Vista, but works perfectly for XP.

msi afterburner should also work fine, the last stable version still installs on XP and you get as a plus and of the overlay info and a good FPS limiter with RTSS,
I did use to like ati tool for the built in stress test and simplicity of the program,

some GDDR3 can go far, the 4670 I have (PCIE) runs at default 873 but it works fine over 1100,
some R5 240 64bit that I have comes at stock 1000 but it works fine at 1300, and I havent tested higher than that because that's as high as the softwares I tried allowed me to,
at the same time my 5570 from 800 can barely OC to 890.