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Reply 48300 of 55036, by BitWrangler

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2023-03-03, 08:20:
I would like to talk to some Dell experts to learn where this system fits into their history, because there is absolutely zero i […]
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I would like to talk to some Dell experts to learn where this system fits into their history, because there is absolutely zero information about the existence of this machine online aside from the trademark registration in 1993 and one 20 year old post from someone saying they repurposed the chassis of one of these.

It's a Dell Exclaim 486/50 (DX2-50) desktop, with original keyboard, mouse and monitor in original box. As a bonus, someone had upgraded this with a Media Vision multimedia kit, so it has a PAS16, 2x SCSI CDROM and fancy Labtec stereo speakers! So far, everything works, and the CRT is absolutely gorgeous! Perfect blacks, excellent color.
20230302_202829 (Custom).jpg

I found it listed recently and managed to get it for a great price in untested condition. Thankfully, the seller not only packaged it back into the box appropriately (base off of monitor, original packaging in place and double boxed to protect the artwork!!).
20230302_185123 (Custom).jpg

Inside it is incredibly clean and the CMOS battery is, thankfully, external. It had slightly corroded the battery negative battery pin but there appears to be no damage on the top of the board (haven't pulled it yet to check the back). Everything else seems to be working great though! I get a tiny bit of sporadic noise from the power supply so I will probably crack that open and see how things look in there.

To my astonishment, I managed to get the hard drive reading by just setting the drive parameters to auto (not as shown in the picture above... those are the defaults due to the lack of battery) and rebooting the PC. It has DOS, Windows 3.1 and an interesting startup program called Dell Library Menu.
20230302_204141 (Custom).jpg

Also, there are hand-written labels on the pull tabs on all of the drive ribbon cables... but not on the CD-ROM cable which was added later. Surely, the writing didn't come from Dell, did it? 🤣
20230302_191328 (Custom).jpg

Anyway, I plan on making a thread about this but I had to post something now. I'm super excited to get it 100% cleaned up and to get all the kinks worked out.
From my reading online, non-business-oriented Dell PCs were barely a thing in 1993, which is when this was manufactured. It's very well built too. The back of the chassis is painted and looks very "premium", except for the fact that the keyboard "hole" is obviously DIN\AT sized but has a PS/2 port in the middle of it... which tells me this case wasn't tooled exactly for this machine.

Nice, just a point to note about Dells earlier history.. they were a system assembly clone shop at first, and for a couple of years, then branching into ordering machines built of commodity parts to rebadge from Asian and other manufacturers and then finally building up the financial muscle to custom order and custom manufacture. (Also much the same progression from Gateway, Packard Bell etc) This one is of an age that was either assembled at Dell USA from commodity parts, or built in Asia from mainly commodity parts at Dell's behest.

There's something of a 1987 to 1997 memory hole, practically everything went into magazines and periodicals 1987 and earlier, you at least made sure you got a 1/4 page ad and prodded for a "newsette" if you had a new product... but the whole business was exploding, so what was happening was there became too much going on to cover comprehensively, and at the same time preliminary "online" things were happening, in the form of manufacturers own BBS, mailing lists by email, AOL and Compuserve sections (and the also rans like Prodigy etc) Compuserve deserves a special mention for sucking.... up all kinds of tech info in it's conferences... then *poof* it's gone. By 1997 these proprietary online presences were recognised as being "over" in comparison with the non-proprietary WWW and more concentration on WWW happened. But, all that stuff from BBSes and special presences on AOL/Compuserve etc was not moved over in significant ways. The non proprietary info on usenet newsgroups has got archived in hard to access manners, try narkive and google groups but it's painful.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 48301 of 55036, by mrfusion92

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A Gigabyte GA-7ZX rev 1.01 with a Duron 750 Mhz and some sdram.

It was very cheap. I wanted a motherboard just for testing cards and whatnot.
This has an universal AGP, plenty of PCI and an ISA slot. So it should be perfect.

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Reply 48302 of 55036, by BitWrangler

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I hope it does good for you... my opinion of Gigabyte's AGP expertise is, to start with a tote full of various AGP cards, and whichever one of several hundred actually run without quirks or errors through all tests, glue it into the AGP slot, so you don't have to go through that crap again.

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Reply 48303 of 55036, by Ozzuneoj

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BitWrangler wrote on 2023-03-03, 15:38:
Ozzuneoj wrote on 2023-03-03, 08:20:
I would like to talk to some Dell experts to learn where this system fits into their history, because there is absolutely zero i […]
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I would like to talk to some Dell experts to learn where this system fits into their history, because there is absolutely zero information about the existence of this machine online aside from the trademark registration in 1993 and one 20 year old post from someone saying they repurposed the chassis of one of these.

It's a Dell Exclaim 486/50 (DX2-50) desktop, with original keyboard, mouse and monitor in original box. As a bonus, someone had upgraded this with a Media Vision multimedia kit, so it has a PAS16, 2x SCSI CDROM and fancy Labtec stereo speakers! So far, everything works, and the CRT is absolutely gorgeous! Perfect blacks, excellent color.
20230302_202829 (Custom).jpg

I found it listed recently and managed to get it for a great price in untested condition. Thankfully, the seller not only packaged it back into the box appropriately (base off of monitor, original packaging in place and double boxed to protect the artwork!!).
20230302_185123 (Custom).jpg

Inside it is incredibly clean and the CMOS battery is, thankfully, external. It had slightly corroded the battery negative battery pin but there appears to be no damage on the top of the board (haven't pulled it yet to check the back). Everything else seems to be working great though! I get a tiny bit of sporadic noise from the power supply so I will probably crack that open and see how things look in there.

To my astonishment, I managed to get the hard drive reading by just setting the drive parameters to auto (not as shown in the picture above... those are the defaults due to the lack of battery) and rebooting the PC. It has DOS, Windows 3.1 and an interesting startup program called Dell Library Menu.
20230302_204141 (Custom).jpg

Also, there are hand-written labels on the pull tabs on all of the drive ribbon cables... but not on the CD-ROM cable which was added later. Surely, the writing didn't come from Dell, did it? 🤣
20230302_191328 (Custom).jpg

Anyway, I plan on making a thread about this but I had to post something now. I'm super excited to get it 100% cleaned up and to get all the kinks worked out.
From my reading online, non-business-oriented Dell PCs were barely a thing in 1993, which is when this was manufactured. It's very well built too. The back of the chassis is painted and looks very "premium", except for the fact that the keyboard "hole" is obviously DIN\AT sized but has a PS/2 port in the middle of it... which tells me this case wasn't tooled exactly for this machine.

Nice, just a point to note about Dells earlier history.. they were a system assembly clone shop at first, and for a couple of years, then branching into ordering machines built of commodity parts to rebadge from Asian and other manufacturers and then finally building up the financial muscle to custom order and custom manufacture. (Also much the same progression from Gateway, Packard Bell etc) This one is of an age that was either assembled at Dell USA from commodity parts, or built in Asia from mainly commodity parts at Dell's behest.

There's something of a 1987 to 1997 memory hole, practically everything went into magazines and periodicals 1987 and earlier, you at least made sure you got a 1/4 page ad and prodded for a "newsette" if you had a new product... but the whole business was exploding, so what was happening was there became too much going on to cover comprehensively, and at the same time preliminary "online" things were happening, in the form of manufacturers own BBS, mailing lists by email, AOL and Compuserve sections (and the also rans like Prodigy etc) Compuserve deserves a special mention for sucking.... up all kinds of tech info in it's conferences... then *poof* it's gone. By 1997 these proprietary online presences were recognised as being "over" in comparison with the non-proprietary WWW and more concentration on WWW happened. But, all that stuff from BBSes and special presences on AOL/Compuserve etc was not moved over in significant ways. The non proprietary info on usenet newsgroups has got archived in hard to access manners, try narkive and google groups but it's painful.

Interesting. Thank you!

There is a "Made in the USA" sticker right on the front of the case, though I don't know to what degree it was "made" here. The inner part of the chassis says "Loyalty Founder 101 B107" and "Loyalty Founder 101B104" (yes, with the uneven spacing). There is a stamp inside the metal cover that is very faint but says "OK" and has some Asian symbols on it... so at least that part is likely made somewhere in Asia.

There is an FCC ID on the bottom of the case: https://fccid.io/E2K486WKM

Mfg. Date: 100593 (October 5th 1993)

The model number is 450DX2MD... which surprisingly turns up zero results online. You're definitely right that there's a large void in computing history because of all those services shutting down.

After much struggling I managed to get the power supply out and after even more struggling I managed to open it up to check the internals. To me, this looks like a replacement power supply. It is branded as Dell, but there is a date of 1995 on it and it is rated at 240W, rather than the 200W advertised on the box. It does, however, appear to be a standard AT power supply. I am considering putting an up to date ATX PSU in this thing with an ATX to AT adapter... but it also seems to be working fine overall, other than a slight intermittent ticking noise once in a while. I'll have to keep an eye on it. I tried checking the caps with my DE-5000 LCR meter, but I'm just not that experienced with it and testing them in circuit seems to be giving me garbage readings.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 48304 of 55036, by mrfusion92

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BitWrangler wrote on 2023-03-03, 17:09:

I hope it does good for you... my opinion of Gigabyte's AGP expertise is, to start with a tote full of various AGP cards, and whichever one of several hundred actually run without quirks or errors through all tests, glue it into the AGP slot, so you don't have to go through that crap again.

Oh man I got this motherboard with the universal slot just to be able to try most of the agp cards I'll get my hands on in the future.. and not stick with only one 🤣

I know that some special agp cards show some quirks in universal slot but in this case I have other systems to try it on.

Reply 48305 of 55036, by brostenen

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Recieved a Macbook Pro 2011 that I bought..... However there were some funky stuff going on with the harddrive, that demanded me to use a HDD tool from UBC to erase the drive. I was also unable to install Mountain Lion OS from the install tool that are for download on Apple's website.... Why Apple, WHY do you offer a download for online upgrade with an expired certificate???? WHY. (Stupid Apple).

But I installed the installer, retrieved the DMG file from within the installer, and moved it to my Linux machine. Then flashed it to a SD card and installed Mountain Lion from scratch. Nobody shall tell me that it can not be done, due some stupid expired certificate. 🤣...

Anyway... 2011 MacBook Pro. And it just need a few things to fix it up. Need new battery. Need new rubber feet. Need SSD installed and I will ditch the optical drive for an extra internal harddrive that will be the 500 gigabyte spinning platter drive. SSD for OS and programs, spinning platter for data. I will also upgrade the memmory, and then this will be my backup machine, and I will use it to store pictures and music. Also a good writing tool. A well build machine, that can run MacOS, Windows and Linux. Probably even BSD Unix if I dare to venture into that.

I really like the build quality on this machine. Though I find it a bit annoying that I have to remove screws to get into the machine. My HP ProBook 6460b still outshines. Yet the Mac have light in the keys....

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Reply 48306 of 55036, by Repo Man11

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brostenen wrote on 2023-03-03, 17:52:
Recieved a Macbook Pro 2011 that I bought..... However there were some funky stuff going on with the harddrive, that demanded me […]
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Recieved a Macbook Pro 2011 that I bought..... However there were some funky stuff going on with the harddrive, that demanded me to use a HDD tool from UBC to erase the drive. I was also unable to install Mountain Lion OS from the install tool that are for download on Apple's website.... Why Apple, WHY do you offer a download for online upgrade with an expired certificate???? WHY. (Stupid Apple).

But I installed the installer, retrieved the DMG file from within the installer, and moved it to my Linux machine. Then flashed it to a SD card and installed Mountain Lion from scratch. Nobody shall tell me that it can not be done, due some stupid expired certificate. 🤣...

Anyway... 2011 MacBook Pro. And it just need a few things to fix it up. Need new battery. Need new rubber feet. Need SSD installed and I will ditch the optical drive for an extra internal harddrive that will be the 500 gigabyte spinning platter drive. SSD for OS and programs, spinning platter for data. I will also upgrade the memmory, and then this will be my backup machine, and I will use it to store pictures and music. Also a good writing tool. A well build machine, that can run MacOS, Windows and Linux. Probably even BSD Unix if I dare to venture into that.

I really like the build quality on this machine. Though I find it a bit annoying that I have to remove screws to get into the machine. My HP ProBook 6460b still outshines. Yet the Mac have light in the keys....

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I have one of those that I picked up for free off Craigslist. I upgraded it to an SSD, sixteen gigabytes of memory, and I used DosDude's patch to install Catalina. https://dosdude1.com/catalina/

I also have a Macbook Unibody that I recently swapped the hard drive and needed to reinstall the Mac OS. When tried to use the internet recovery, it would stall out. I found a forum that had a keyboard sequence that would try to download a supported OS (I believe it was Option, Command, R) and after that it downloaded and installed El Capitan with no issue. Since it had been upgraded to eight gigabytes of RAM, I used the Dosdude patch to install Catalina on it as well.

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Reply 48307 of 55036, by DW12

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From the category "weird shit that I found and bought on the internet", today I received a new, in box Microsoft wireless mouse with a weird branding on it. It looks kind of ridiculous, but works.

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Reply 48308 of 55036, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2023-03-03, 17:19:
Interesting. Thank you! […]
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BitWrangler wrote on 2023-03-03, 15:38:
Ozzuneoj wrote on 2023-03-03, 08:20:
I would like to talk to some Dell experts to learn where this system fits into their history, because there is absolutely zero i […]
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I would like to talk to some Dell experts to learn where this system fits into their history, because there is absolutely zero information about the existence of this machine online aside from the trademark registration in 1993 and one 20 year old post from someone saying they repurposed the chassis of one of these.

It's a Dell Exclaim 486/50 (DX2-50) desktop, with original keyboard, mouse and monitor in original box. As a bonus, someone had upgraded this with a Media Vision multimedia kit, so it has a PAS16, 2x SCSI CDROM and fancy Labtec stereo speakers! So far, everything works, and the CRT is absolutely gorgeous! Perfect blacks, excellent color.
20230302_202829 (Custom).jpg

I found it listed recently and managed to get it for a great price in untested condition. Thankfully, the seller not only packaged it back into the box appropriately (base off of monitor, original packaging in place and double boxed to protect the artwork!!).
20230302_185123 (Custom).jpg

Inside it is incredibly clean and the CMOS battery is, thankfully, external. It had slightly corroded the battery negative battery pin but there appears to be no damage on the top of the board (haven't pulled it yet to check the back). Everything else seems to be working great though! I get a tiny bit of sporadic noise from the power supply so I will probably crack that open and see how things look in there.

To my astonishment, I managed to get the hard drive reading by just setting the drive parameters to auto (not as shown in the picture above... those are the defaults due to the lack of battery) and rebooting the PC. It has DOS, Windows 3.1 and an interesting startup program called Dell Library Menu.
20230302_204141 (Custom).jpg

Also, there are hand-written labels on the pull tabs on all of the drive ribbon cables... but not on the CD-ROM cable which was added later. Surely, the writing didn't come from Dell, did it? 🤣
20230302_191328 (Custom).jpg

Anyway, I plan on making a thread about this but I had to post something now. I'm super excited to get it 100% cleaned up and to get all the kinks worked out.
From my reading online, non-business-oriented Dell PCs were barely a thing in 1993, which is when this was manufactured. It's very well built too. The back of the chassis is painted and looks very "premium", except for the fact that the keyboard "hole" is obviously DIN\AT sized but has a PS/2 port in the middle of it... which tells me this case wasn't tooled exactly for this machine.

Nice, just a point to note about Dells earlier history.. they were a system assembly clone shop at first, and for a couple of years, then branching into ordering machines built of commodity parts to rebadge from Asian and other manufacturers and then finally building up the financial muscle to custom order and custom manufacture. (Also much the same progression from Gateway, Packard Bell etc) This one is of an age that was either assembled at Dell USA from commodity parts, or built in Asia from mainly commodity parts at Dell's behest.

There's something of a 1987 to 1997 memory hole, practically everything went into magazines and periodicals 1987 and earlier, you at least made sure you got a 1/4 page ad and prodded for a "newsette" if you had a new product... but the whole business was exploding, so what was happening was there became too much going on to cover comprehensively, and at the same time preliminary "online" things were happening, in the form of manufacturers own BBS, mailing lists by email, AOL and Compuserve sections (and the also rans like Prodigy etc) Compuserve deserves a special mention for sucking.... up all kinds of tech info in it's conferences... then *poof* it's gone. By 1997 these proprietary online presences were recognised as being "over" in comparison with the non-proprietary WWW and more concentration on WWW happened. But, all that stuff from BBSes and special presences on AOL/Compuserve etc was not moved over in significant ways. The non proprietary info on usenet newsgroups has got archived in hard to access manners, try narkive and google groups but it's painful.

Interesting. Thank you!

There is a "Made in the USA" sticker right on the front of the case, though I don't know to what degree it was "made" here. The inner part of the chassis says "Loyalty Founder 101 B107" and "Loyalty Founder 101B104" (yes, with the uneven spacing). There is a stamp inside the metal cover that is very faint but says "OK" and has some Asian symbols on it... so at least that part is likely made somewhere in Asia.

There is an FCC ID on the bottom of the case: https://fccid.io/E2K486WKM

Mfg. Date: 100593 (October 5th 1993)

The model number is 450DX2MD... which surprisingly turns up zero results online. You're definitely right that there's a large void in computing history because of all those services shutting down.

After much struggling I managed to get the power supply out and after even more struggling I managed to open it up to check the internals. To me, this looks like a replacement power supply. It is branded as Dell, but there is a date of 1995 on it and it is rated at 240W, rather than the 200W advertised on the box. It does, however, appear to be a standard AT power supply. I am considering putting an up to date ATX PSU in this thing with an ATX to AT adapter... but it also seems to be working fine overall, other than a slight intermittent ticking noise once in a while. I'll have to keep an eye on it. I tried checking the caps with my DE-5000 LCR meter, but I'm just not that experienced with it and testing them in circuit seems to be giving me garbage readings.

Front panel seems quite similar to those on the various V486 MDT models...maybe you can spot other commonalities by drilling down further against each of those listed here - https://web.archive.org/web/19961222080831/ht … tech/try486.htm

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Dropped in to the local thrift store on my lunch break today, and it's always exciting to see a beige box sitting on the shelf. Picked this up for $15, complete sans hard drive. Has what appears to be a Jetway 630CF mobo which is socket 370, not sure if it's a P3 or Celeron. I verified it powers up but I'll have to wait until I get home to connect it to a monitor to check any further functionality. If nothing else the case alone is worth $15.

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These arrived in the mail today, another sound card (AWE64 CT4500) and a Pentium 486 SX-33.

The latter I'm thinking of using in a lower-end 486 build for early 90s adventure and RPG games.

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Brawndo wrote on 2023-03-03, 20:56:
Dropped in to the local thrift store on my lunch break today, and it's always exciting to see a beige box sitting on the shelf. […]
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Dropped in to the local thrift store on my lunch break today, and it's always exciting to see a beige box sitting on the shelf. Picked this up for $15, complete sans hard drive. Has what appears to be a Jetway 630CF mobo which is socket 370, not sure if it's a P3 or Celeron. I verified it powers up but I'll have to wait until I get home to connect it to a monitor to check any further functionality. If nothing else the case alone is worth $15.

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Nice find! Case looks in good shape, definitely worth the 15 bucks!

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Reply 48312 of 55036, by Ozzuneoj

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Brawndo wrote on 2023-03-03, 20:56:
Dropped in to the local thrift store on my lunch break today, and it's always exciting to see a beige box sitting on the shelf. […]
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Dropped in to the local thrift store on my lunch break today, and it's always exciting to see a beige box sitting on the shelf. Picked this up for $15, complete sans hard drive. Has what appears to be a Jetway 630CF mobo which is socket 370, not sure if it's a P3 or Celeron. I verified it powers up but I'll have to wait until I get home to connect it to a monitor to check any further functionality. If nothing else the case alone is worth $15.

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It has a Via sticker on it. Does it say Via Cyrix III? That's a Socket 370 CPU, so it would fit... and it seems like something you'd certainly see combined with a Jetway motherboard with an SIS chipset and integrated video.

The caps look nice and flat! 😀

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 48313 of 55036, by Ozzuneoj

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PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2023-03-03, 20:54:
Ozzuneoj wrote on 2023-03-03, 17:19:
Interesting. Thank you! […]
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BitWrangler wrote on 2023-03-03, 15:38:

Nice, just a point to note about Dells earlier history.. they were a system assembly clone shop at first, and for a couple of years, then branching into ordering machines built of commodity parts to rebadge from Asian and other manufacturers and then finally building up the financial muscle to custom order and custom manufacture. (Also much the same progression from Gateway, Packard Bell etc) This one is of an age that was either assembled at Dell USA from commodity parts, or built in Asia from mainly commodity parts at Dell's behest.

There's something of a 1987 to 1997 memory hole, practically everything went into magazines and periodicals 1987 and earlier, you at least made sure you got a 1/4 page ad and prodded for a "newsette" if you had a new product... but the whole business was exploding, so what was happening was there became too much going on to cover comprehensively, and at the same time preliminary "online" things were happening, in the form of manufacturers own BBS, mailing lists by email, AOL and Compuserve sections (and the also rans like Prodigy etc) Compuserve deserves a special mention for sucking.... up all kinds of tech info in it's conferences... then *poof* it's gone. By 1997 these proprietary online presences were recognised as being "over" in comparison with the non-proprietary WWW and more concentration on WWW happened. But, all that stuff from BBSes and special presences on AOL/Compuserve etc was not moved over in significant ways. The non proprietary info on usenet newsgroups has got archived in hard to access manners, try narkive and google groups but it's painful.

Interesting. Thank you!

There is a "Made in the USA" sticker right on the front of the case, though I don't know to what degree it was "made" here. The inner part of the chassis says "Loyalty Founder 101 B107" and "Loyalty Founder 101B104" (yes, with the uneven spacing). There is a stamp inside the metal cover that is very faint but says "OK" and has some Asian symbols on it... so at least that part is likely made somewhere in Asia.

There is an FCC ID on the bottom of the case: https://fccid.io/E2K486WKM

Mfg. Date: 100593 (October 5th 1993)

The model number is 450DX2MD... which surprisingly turns up zero results online. You're definitely right that there's a large void in computing history because of all those services shutting down.

After much struggling I managed to get the power supply out and after even more struggling I managed to open it up to check the internals. To me, this looks like a replacement power supply. It is branded as Dell, but there is a date of 1995 on it and it is rated at 240W, rather than the 200W advertised on the box. It does, however, appear to be a standard AT power supply. I am considering putting an up to date ATX PSU in this thing with an ATX to AT adapter... but it also seems to be working fine overall, other than a slight intermittent ticking noise once in a while. I'll have to keep an eye on it. I tried checking the caps with my DE-5000 LCR meter, but I'm just not that experienced with it and testing them in circuit seems to be giving me garbage readings.

Front panel seems quite similar to those on the various V486 MDT models...maybe you can spot other commonalities by drilling down further against each of those listed here - https://web.archive.org/web/19961222080831/ht … tech/try486.htm

Wow, nice sleuthing! Definitely looks like the V486 MDT models. The specs seem closest to the Rev. 3 as well. It seems they may have slightly reconfigured one of those, used a different badge and box and sold it as a family home computer at retail. You know... I meant to check the box for any labels that would indicate the store it came from. Hmm... 😮

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

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Bancho wrote on 2020-07-08, 10:41:
Sound Card/Wavetable Board arrived today. From reading i think this card come out of an IBM machine. […]
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Sound Card/Wavetable Board arrived today. From reading i think this card come out of an IBM machine.

S-16FP/L Crystal CS4236 Sound card & S-W1/C Daughterboard with Crystal CS9233 Synth.

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Hi Bancho, I'm looking for precisely this card and daughterboard to restore my IBM Aptiva 2136 to its original 1998 glory! Any idea where I can pick them up?

Reply 48315 of 55036, by Brawndo

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2023-03-03, 22:27:
Brawndo wrote on 2023-03-03, 20:56:
Dropped in to the local thrift store on my lunch break today, and it's always exciting to see a beige box sitting on the shelf. […]
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Dropped in to the local thrift store on my lunch break today, and it's always exciting to see a beige box sitting on the shelf. Picked this up for $15, complete sans hard drive. Has what appears to be a Jetway 630CF mobo which is socket 370, not sure if it's a P3 or Celeron. I verified it powers up but I'll have to wait until I get home to connect it to a monitor to check any further functionality. If nothing else the case alone is worth $15.

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It has a Via sticker on it. Does it say Via Cyrix III? That's a Socket 370 CPU, so it would fit... and it seems like something you'd certainly see combined with a Jetway motherboard with an SIS chipset and integrated video.

The caps look nice and flat! 😀

It does indeed say Cyrix III with 3dNow! I didn't even look that closely at it. I've never had a Cyrix CPU.

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Bought a lot of heatsinks because I noticed a couple that had CPUs in sockets under the heatsinks, one with an interposer.
Check out what was under them!

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The interposer is set for 2.8v and 2.5x multiplier
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What is this one? (Looks like an AMD K5)

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Yamaha modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG repository
YMF7x4 Guide
Aopen AW744L II SB-LINK

Reply 48317 of 55036, by TrashPanda

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Thats a weird as hell PR rating on that 6x86...doesn't exist as far as my digging goes and what little there is makes that 2VXP000GZ ID make no damn sense.

Even the voltage 2.XV ..WTF is that .

I'm guessing its a ES chip which makes it even more interesting, though it might be fake but who would fake a 6x86 ..heck it could be a miss print.

Im both confused and intrigued at the same time ...perhaps you can uhhh fire the old girl up and shed some light on it.

The second one looks like an early K5 but its not ceramic ..looks more like the plastic fiber CPUs but its clearly ceramic from the bottom, another enigma worth looking into.

Edit - The more I look at it the more im inclined to believe that 6x86 is an ES chip.

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Reply 48318 of 55036, by cyclone3d

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Well, they are of course ES chips. A quick search didn't show any like them that I saw.

Yamaha modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG repository
YMF7x4 Guide
Aopen AW744L II SB-LINK

Reply 48319 of 55036, by Asininity

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I got my hands on a EPIA-800 for a mITX 98 machine. I'm waiting on a S3 Trio 64 2MB and a replacement for the noisy 40mm fan. If I'm lucky I'll be able to find an affordable small 486 case before too long to put it all in.

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2023-03-01, 02:40:

The model number is visible if you look at it close up. It is a Biostar MB-8433UUD-A Ver:3.1 . Similar to the one in this thread.

Thanks! That was pretty interesting read.