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Reply 4160 of 4734, by Kahenraz

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You are expected to take things from a lot of recyclers, even if it's for a small fee, and are encouraged to do so. I thought it was just someone on staff being petty.

Do they not allow you to take things here *and* won't sell it to you? That does seem petty.

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Reply 4161 of 4734, by dormcat

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Kahenraz wrote on 2023-04-08, 05:00:

You are expected to take things from a lot of recyclers, even if it's for a small fee, and are encouraged to do so. I thought it was just someone on staff being petty.

Do they not allow you to take things here *and* won't sell it to you? That does seem petty.

Could it be that some e-waste recyclers are legally non-profit organizations? (Re)selling recycled items might change their status to for-profit companies and deprive them from receiving government support and/or require them to pay sales tax.

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Reply 4162 of 4734, by Shagittarius

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Those morons can't even spell "their" correctly.

Reply 4163 of 4734, by Minutemanqvs

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Horun wrote on 2023-04-07, 22:28:
I saved most of the stuff from Intel in a about 20 archives. Your boards docs and last bios are in this one: https://archive.or […]
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Minutemanqvs wrote on 2023-03-31, 15:21:
An Intel DP35DP (LGA775) motherboard with CPU and RAM was going to the recycler, it's now mine. Special thanks to Intel for acti […]
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An Intel DP35DP (LGA775) motherboard with CPU and RAM was going to the recycler, it's now mine. Special thanks to Intel for actively removing all BIOS for their motherboards from their website in 2019, what a dick move.

The old Pentiums, K6 and a broken Athlon XP were kindly donated a couple of days ago.

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I saved most of the stuff from Intel in a about 20 archives. Your boards docs and last bios are in this one:
https://archive.org/details/intellegacyboards3138
you can browse the RAR and grab the files you want seperately: https://ia902805.us.archive.org/view_archive. … rds%2031_38.rar
the DP35DP_QuickRef04.pdf is very handy for the pinouts of near all the board connectors....

Oh thanks, I wasn't expecting that much!

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Reply 4164 of 4734, by Minutemanqvs

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Today I was really lucky, I went to the local computer store to buy an SSD and saw that there was a big pile of mainboards on top of each other at the back. I asked what this was and they are the old boards from computers customers bring in for upgrades or disposal. I asked what the oldest mainboard in this pile is and the guy gave me that, completely for free!

  • An AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition (2009)
  • A top of the line (back then) Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 with more types of extension slots I ever had. It does SLI and Crossfire, has Firewire etc etc...
  • 3x 4GB of fancy DDR3

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Apparently this came from a watercooled PC that stopped working and the customer just wanted to change his PC anyway. The mainboard is thus lacking the CPU bracket, but that's a $5 item. I connected the thing, just put a stock AMD cooler on it and indeed it beeps 3 times on startup and no video output. It appears that one of the 3 memory sticks is dead. All RAM slot work with the other modules, and this one doesn't work in any slot...easy "fix" then.

So for the non-price I paid, this is really a kind gift from the store! AM3 still seems so recent, but it's actually a 14 years old CPU!

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Reply 4165 of 4734, by Nexxen

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Minutemanqvs wrote on 2023-04-08, 15:44:
Today I was really lucky, I went to the local computer store to buy an SSD and saw that there was a big pile of mainboards on to […]
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Today I was really lucky, I went to the local computer store to buy an SSD and saw that there was a big pile of mainboards on top of each other at the back. I asked what this was and they are the old boards from computers customers bring in for upgrades or disposal. I asked what the oldest mainboard in this pile is and the guy gave me that, completely for free!

  • An AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition (2009)
  • A top of the line (back then) Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 with more types of extension slots I ever had. It does SLI and Crossfire, has Firewire etc etc...
  • 3x 4GB of fancy DDR3

IMG-0338.jpg
IMG-0340.jpg

Apparently this came from a watercooled PC that stopped working and the customer just wanted to change his PC anyway. The mainboard is thus lacking the CPU bracket, but that's a $5 item. I connected the thing, just put a stock AMD cooler on it and indeed it beeps 3 times on startup and no video output. It appears that one of the 3 memory sticks is dead. All RAM slot work with the other modules, and this one doesn't work in any slot...easy "fix" then.

So for the non-price I paid, this is really a kind gift from the store! AM3 still seems so recent, but it's actually a 14 years old CPU!

Über nice find! Top of the class. Hope you'll make good use of it.

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Reply 4166 of 4734, by Kahenraz

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I agree, very nice find. I may have had this board or the UD5 version years ago, and it was a solid performer.

Reply 4167 of 4734, by pentiumspeed

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Same issue with our recyclers sites in Canada. Allowed to drop off, not allowed to take anything even the dump site is open to all.

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Great Northern aka Canada.

Reply 4168 of 4734, by weedeewee

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Digital equipment corporation Prioris XL 6200
- scsi optical drive, tape drive & hard drive ( Toshiba cdrom XM-5701ta, archive python 28388-xxx, quantum fireball st4.3s )
- pentium pro 200
- 3 dimm 128, 64 & 32 (edo I think and yes they're dimms not simms) ECC
- missing side panel

haven't tested it yet. Tested, fully working. NT4 backoffice SBS
and the mainboard isn't listed on theretroweb.

A contaq 82c596 +sis 85c206 based 486 mainboard with 7 isa 16 bit slots, 2 VLB, 8 30 pin simm slots, slight varta battery leak damage, 8+tag cache chips
I also couldn't find this mainboard on theretroweb.

2 pcbs
one marked
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IO board 85-3240-01
the other marked
CPU / MEMORY BOARD 85-3261-01 052086
cpu is a 286@8MHz, 4k sram, 512K ram
No idea which system these came out of. Definitely proprietary looking at the connectors.

edit, tested dec system

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Reply 4169 of 4734, by BitWrangler

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You gotta search RetroWeb several different ways sometimes, search is not 100% reliable. You'd think easy way is with chipset, but even then sometimes stuff doesn't come up in the results, even when you finally get there it looks right. Anyway, try searching by chipset, then by numbers of slots, extreme cases I've had to get down to real basics, cpu class, board format, RAM type, and eyeball some 100 results and the thing is there. Then you look at the entry and the parameters seem correct but search didn't get it, nuts. Though some are really really not there, but that seems to be about 1 in 4 of things that seem not to be there on first try.

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Reply 4170 of 4734, by weedeewee

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BitWrangler, I already did that but just to be pedantic I just did a search for 7 isa & 2 vlb, 102 results, and the board is not in there. Though the layout of the TMC ones looks similar from afar.

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Reply 4171 of 4734, by BitWrangler

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Yeah, I concur, it doesn't seem to be there, unless known example didn't have one of the VLB or 1 or more of the 16bit ISAs populated, or only half the RAM sockets and counts etc are way off.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 4172 of 4734, by pentiumspeed

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weedeewee wrote on 2023-04-09, 09:19:
Digital equipment corporation Prioris XL 6200 - scsi optical drive, tape drive & hard drive ( Toshiba cdrom XM-5701ta, archive […]
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Digital equipment corporation Prioris XL 6200
- scsi optical drive, tape drive & hard drive ( Toshiba cdrom XM-5701ta, archive python 28388-xxx, quantum fireball st4.3s )
- pentium pro 200
- 3 dimm 128, 64 & 32 (edo I think and yes they're dimms not simms) ECC
- missing side panel

haven't tested it yet. Tested, fully working. NT4 backoffice SBS
and the mainboard isn't listed on theretroweb.

A contaq 82c596 +sis 85c206 based 486 mainboard with 7 isa 16 bit slots, 2 VLB, 8 30 pin simm slots, slight varta battery leak damage, 8+tag cache chips
I also couldn't find this mainboard on theretroweb.

2 pcbs
one marked
031186
IO board 85-3240-01
the other marked
CPU / MEMORY BOARD 85-3261-01 052086
cpu is a 286@8MHz, 4k sram, 512K ram
No idea which system these came out of. Definitely proprietary looking at the connectors.

edit, tested dec system

The proprietary two cards are from a Zenith computer, you need Zenith back plane. You are also missing a memory card as well because the onboard ram is 512K.
Difficult to find parts than an anything else.

Back in the day, Zenith computers were usually mostly found in government, education campuses and such. They usually stripletions if used government money to purchase these, the computers must be scrapped carefully and nearly nothing escaped. Hence the rarity these days.

Cheers,

Great Northern aka Canada.

Reply 4173 of 4734, by weedeewee

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pentiumspeed wrote on 2023-04-09, 18:10:
The proprietary two cards are from a Zenith computer, you need Zenith back plane. You are also missing a memory card as well b […]
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weedeewee wrote on 2023-04-09, 09:19:
2 pcbs one marked 031186 IO board 85-3240-01 the other marked CPU / MEMORY BOARD 85-3261-01 052086 cpu is a 286@8MHz, 4k sram, […]
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2 pcbs
one marked
031186
IO board 85-3240-01
the other marked
CPU / MEMORY BOARD 85-3261-01 052086
cpu is a 286@8MHz, 4k sram, 512K ram
No idea which system these came out of. Definitely proprietary looking at the connectors.

The proprietary two cards are from a Zenith computer, you need Zenith back plane. You are also missing a memory card as well because the onboard ram is 512K.
Difficult to find parts than an anything else.

Back in the day, Zenith computers were usually mostly found in government, education campuses and such. They usually stripletions if used government money to purchase these, the computers must be scrapped carefully and nearly nothing escaped. Hence the rarity these days.

Cheers,

stripletions ? I think i understand what you mean by it in the sentence.
rare items you say. worth a penny yes ? How much would these be worth ? three fiddy or more ?
I guess I can always use them for spare parts or as ornaments. 😀

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Reply 4174 of 4734, by pentiumspeed

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requirements.

Cheers.

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Reply 4175 of 4734, by gerry

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I recently found a hercules 3d prophet 4000xt pci card - should i be excited? 😀

well i can sort of answer with a no given the performance and reviews - but it does enable me to add 3d to one of my pci only machines and see what it can do

and the card looks great in blue with the tiny fan!

Reply 4176 of 4734, by Minutemanqvs

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gerry wrote on 2023-04-10, 18:26:

I recently found a hercules 3d prophet 4000xt pci card - should i be excited? 😀

well i can sort of answer with a no given the performance and reviews - but it does enable me to add 3d to one of my pci only machines and see what it can do

and the card looks great in blue with the tiny fan!

That's a nice find I think, they are a bit exotic and as you say their PCB looks good! It's the first iteration of the Kyro chip as far as I remember.

Searching a Nexgen Nx586 with FPU, PM me if you have one. I have some Athlon MP systems and cookies.

Reply 4177 of 4734, by Kahenraz

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gerry wrote on 2023-04-10, 18:26:

I recently found a hercules 3d prophet 4000xt pci card - should i be excited? 😀

well i can sort of answer with a no given the performance and reviews - but it does enable me to add 3d to one of my pci only machines and see what it can do

and the card looks great in blue with the tiny fan!

I have this card in AGP and, while an interesting curiosity, was lackluster in compatibility and performance over a comparable NVIDIA and ATI alternative. It is interesting to have in a collection, though. I just couldn't find a good reason to want it in a build.

Reply 4178 of 4734, by Veeb0rg

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Rescued a CT4520 AWE64 from the scrap pile today. It must be an OEM version or something, it lacks the expansion headers and the chips around them. Also grabbed some pci-x scsi cards that were next to it in the pile.

Reply 4179 of 4734, by Kahenraz

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The AWE64 Value still has 512k onboard memory, which is enough for a lot of games, as it was the standard. I wouldn't worry about not having any further memory expansion, as it's only useful for custom soundfonts that people shared on the internet.

Custom soundfonts can only be loaded from within Windows, so a Live! Or Audigy would be more useful at that point. I don't know if any DOS games made use of the soundfont features of the AWE32/64.