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Did I just break it ???? GeForce 2 GTS

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First post, by Robx66

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Hi all,
Not 100% sure but I think I just broke my GeForce 2 GTS. Tried to take glued heatsink off and...... this is what has happened....
Seems like graphics core separated from pcb ?
Tell me if I'm wrong...

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Reply 1 of 26, by PD2JK

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Put it back and heat up the oven. 😉

Yeah I think this one is doomed. Never seen it in this 'shape' btw.

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Reply 2 of 26, by The Serpent Rider

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Well, yeah. You've snatched the crystal from PCB. Informative shots though, due to how nicely it came off =P

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Reply 3 of 26, by Robx66

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PD2JK wrote on 2023-07-01, 17:21:

Put it back and heat up the oven. 😉

Yeah I think this one is doomed. Never seen it in this 'shape' btw.

Yea, it looks nice 😀 Anyway I might try heating it back again but using heat gun instead and see what happen.
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Reply 4 of 26, by bloodem

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Holy hell!
Still, that heatsink appears to have been tampered with, so whoever removed it before you did... probably used the most powerful thermal adhesive in the world. 😁

Robx66 wrote on 2023-07-01, 17:26:

Anyway I might try heating it back again but using heat gun instead and see what happen.
Nothing to loose now !!

Uhm, yeah... good luck with that. 😅

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Reply 5 of 26, by pentiumspeed

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Very cool! Now I know how large the silicon die looks like on GTS!

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Reply 6 of 26, by Gmlb256

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Wow! That heatsink was tightly glued! 😳

Anyway, you got very nice shots that shows the die size of the chip! 😁

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Reply 7 of 26, by Robx66

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I know it looks nice and beautiful seeing it in this kind of a unique, never seen before view/condition 😁
Not very happy really but hey.
Now I need to dig in my old collection of hardware and find something nice as a replacement 😀

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Reply 8 of 26, by PD2JK

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Go cheap and get a GF4 MX440.

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Reply 9 of 26, by Robx66

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I think I got gf4 mx400 but not sure about mx440. I just found this but not sure what it is but it looks really good.

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Reply 10 of 26, by Warlord

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how much heat did you apply before prying it off?

oh and that looks like a GF3.

Reply 11 of 26, by Robx66

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Warlord wrote on 2023-07-01, 18:43:

how much heat did you apply before prying it off?

That's the thing. No heat at all 😀

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Reply 12 of 26, by Robx66

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Warlord wrote on 2023-07-01, 18:43:

how much heat did you apply before prying it off?

oh and that looks like a GF3.

GF3 ? Hmmm even better. Fingers crossed its not dead or something.

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Reply 13 of 26, by weedeewee

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Robx66 wrote on 2023-07-01, 17:26:
PD2JK wrote on 2023-07-01, 17:21:

Put it back and heat up the oven. 😉

Yeah I think this one is doomed. Never seen it in this 'shape' btw.

Yea, it looks nice 😀 Anyway I might try heating it back again but using heat gun instead and see what happen.
Nothing to loose now !!

FYI, No amount of heat will fix that. the bond wires, the connection between the silicon die and the bga PCB (the green pcb that connects to the main vga card pcb) have been ripped off.
Though you still apply some heat If you really want to remove the heatsink.

That's also always good advice when removing a stubborn heatsink that won't come loose, add some heat to it. Plenty of people have had it happen on AMD platforms, pulling the CPU out together with the heatsink.
Applying some heat makes the thermal interface material come loose easier.

In this state It's dead. No doubt about it.
edit: and aside from completely replacing the gpu, it will remain dead.

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Reply 14 of 26, by Warlord

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It's a quadro 3 though so its closer to a TI200. Its not as strong as a TI500 or a Vanilla GF3.

Reply 15 of 26, by Robx66

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Warlord wrote on 2023-07-01, 18:52:

It's a quadro 3 though so its closer to a TI200. Its not as strong as a TI500 or a Vanilla GF3.

What's the difference between quadro 3 and ti500 ? I found pics on Google and can't see the difference hmmm is it only bios or something ?

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Reply 16 of 26, by Robx66

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It seems like GF3....

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Reply 17 of 26, by Warlord

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Robx66 wrote on 2023-07-01, 19:05:
Warlord wrote on 2023-07-01, 18:52:

It's a quadro 3 though so its closer to a TI200. Its not as strong as a TI500 or a Vanilla GF3.

What's the difference between quadro 3 and ti500 ? I found pics on Google and can't see the difference hmmm is it only bios or something ?

The differene is in memory and core clock, but you can probably overclock it.
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Reply 18 of 26, by Robx66

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Warlord wrote on 2023-07-01, 19:24:
Robx66 wrote on 2023-07-01, 19:05:
Warlord wrote on 2023-07-01, 18:52:

It's a quadro 3 though so its closer to a TI200. Its not as strong as a TI500 or a Vanilla GF3.

What's the difference between quadro 3 and ti500 ? I found pics on Google and can't see the difference hmmm is it only bios or something ?

The differene is in memory and core clock, but you can probably overclock it.
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I found something on here too and pics for quadro dcc and ti500 looks same but pic of gpu is the only difference....

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce3-ti500.c741

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro-dcc.c2371

Interesting...

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Reply 19 of 26, by Warlord

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your card might be a just regular Gf3.