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A Kick-Ass Dual 3.8GHz NetBurst Xeon Build

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Reply 120 of 243, by The Serpent Rider

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Titan Z would be still slower than a pair of normal Titans, because it has very tight PL and TDP budget.

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Reply 121 of 243, by Irinikus

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I see that:
800/6 equals 133.333
667/5 equals 133.4
400/3 equals 133.333

133.333 seems to be a common factor between the frequency and the CL value

So I may look at ordering a set such as this for this system : (DDR2 667 CL5, as I really don't need 40+ of these things!!!)

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With this set there would be two spare in case there are any problems with any of them!

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Reply 122 of 243, by Irinikus

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As far as cooling goes, I may have to go with these Noctua Fans: (This is because the InWin fans won't be easy to get my hands on and these also have much better static pressure performance, and they'll also match the case!!!)

Eight of these:

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One of these:

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Reply 123 of 243, by The Serpent Rider

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I suggest you to look for Thermalright or Arctic Cooling ones. Should be cheaper. Unless you absolutely want to transform you PC into a jet engine with so many 3000RPM fans.

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Reply 124 of 243, by luckybob

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/385678278759

i wonder if 8gb sticks will work....

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Reply 125 of 243, by Irinikus

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The Serpent Rider wrote on 2023-09-06, 15:48:

I suggest you to look for Thermalright or Arctic Cooling ones. Should be cheaper. Unless you absolutely want to transform you PC into a jet engine with so many 3000RPM fans.

I'll control the fan speed with this controller and this fan hub:

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Reply 126 of 243, by Irinikus

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luckybob wrote on 2023-09-06, 16:05:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/385678278759

i wonder if 8gb sticks will work....

I wonder!? (It is a bit of a risk, as I haven't read anywhere that the E7525 MCH (Turnwater) can support 64GB of memory!!!!)

Here's the specs of that RAM: (240-pin 1.8v)

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Reply 127 of 243, by Irinikus

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Apparently the CPU's an address 64GB of RAM!!!

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Reply 128 of 243, by The Serpent Rider

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Irinikus wrote on 2023-09-06, 16:11:

I'll control the fan speed with this controller and this fan hub:

But do you need 3000RPM?

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Reply 129 of 243, by Irinikus

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The Serpent Rider wrote on 2023-09-06, 17:41:
Irinikus wrote on 2023-09-06, 16:11:

I'll control the fan speed with this controller and this fan hub:

But do you need 3000RPM?

This system gets incredibly hot and this InWin case doesn't have the best airflow characteristics, so I'm going to need fans with very good static pressure performance to bruit force air through the case! I just want to have options available to me.

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Reply 130 of 243, by luckybob

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it was designed to be in their workstation / server chassis.

That thing has fans that could be used as food processors.

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Reply 131 of 243, by Irinikus

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luckybob wrote on 2023-09-06, 17:49:

it was designed to be in their workstation / server chassis.

That thing has fans that could be used as food processors.

Agreed!

What do you think about the 64GB Memory option? (Do you think it's possible?)

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Reply 132 of 243, by luckybob

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I would be surprised if the 8gb dimms worked. to be honest. I have the same motherboard. and I do have 8x of the 8gb sticks in a dual 771 build. but taking that system apart, getting my X6DAE-G2 board of storage and setup... thats a bit of a task at the moment and I have other projects on the front burner.

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Reply 133 of 243, by Irinikus

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luckybob wrote on 2023-09-06, 17:58:

I would be surprised if the 8gb dimms worked. to be honest. I have the same motherboard. and I do have 8x of the 8gb sticks in a dual 771 build. but taking that system apart, getting my X6DAE-G2 board of storage and setup... thats a bit of a task at the moment and I have other projects on the front burner.

Thanks,

I'll stick with 32GB then!

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Reply 134 of 243, by H3nrik V!

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Irinikus wrote on 2023-09-06, 17:01:
Apparently the CPU's an address 64GB of RAM!!! […]
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Apparently the CPU's an address 64GB of RAM!!!

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Interesting as it doesn't have on-die memory controller. And Intel's ARK doesn't mention memory. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/produ … 00-mhz-fsb.html

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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Reply 135 of 243, by H3nrik V!

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rc … isq6XygMQbMkRJI may be an early revision of the datasheet, but states the MCH only supports up to 16 GiB

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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Reply 136 of 243, by Irinikus

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I saw that documentation too, but assumed that Tyan would be stating the truth as to how much RAM the system can accommodate. (They stated 32GB, which hadn’t been validated at the time of the board’s release.)

I don’t want to waste money on this for no reason, so if any doubt exists, then there is no doubt!

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Reply 137 of 243, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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Not definitive I suppose, but no 4GB module ever made it onto the boards memory QVL - https://web.archive.org/web/20140923104616/ht … mory_s2676.html

Also, seem to recall the E75xx series is limited to a maximum of 8 memory ranks s0 either 8 x 1R or 4 x 2R DIMMs

System looking good BTW 😀

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Reply 138 of 243, by Irinikus

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Thanks! 😀

Here's some information from the E7525 MCH data sheet showing that it can address 16GB of RAM? (The only way it could accomplish this is with 8 x 2GB sticks slotted?)

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Reply 139 of 243, by acl

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Irinikus wrote on 2023-09-07, 04:22:

I saw that documentation too, but assumed that Tyan would be stating the truth as to how much RAM the system can accommodate. (They stated 32GB, which hadn’t been validated at the time of the board’s release.)

I don’t want to waste money on this for no reason, so if any doubt exists, then there is no doubt!

Probably not the case here, but i had a long lasting and hard to identify issue because i wanted to populate all ram slots.
It was on my nForce4 SLI s939 system. I changed almost every part of the system on a period of 1y... to finally come to the conclusion that 4 ram sticks in dual channel was unstable, no matter what ram kit i was using.
Two was stable... four was not.
One year of troubleshooting and wasting money to swap perfectly working parts.

But workstation/server boards are generally designed to have memory maxed out.

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