You want to see which one has better image after all these years. Image quality is the most important to me. I use 17" for DOS and 21" for Windows. 19" is in the middle but too big for DOS in my opinion. NEC is the favorite in 19" size.

Well the LG 17 inches is new old stock, still in his original box. The Samsung is used. That being said I was curious to check the various refresh rates because they are important.
Both the 19 inches instead are used.
I'd love to find a 21 crt but apparently they are very rare even my last crt was a 19 inches but it had great refresh rates.

Nemo1985 wrote on 2023-11-23, 11:10:

Well the LG 17 inches is new old stock, still in his original box. The Samsung is used. That being said I was curious to check the various refresh rates because they are important.

Try googling monitor model + manual.

Many of the user manuals are still available on websites which specifically host those. Sometimes, you can also find a service manual there, if you're lucky. Anyway, the monitor's manual should have all the relevant refresh rate info.

Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2023-11-23, 11:20:

Nemo1985 wrote on 2023-11-23, 11:10:

Well the LG 17 inches is new old stock, still in his original box. The Samsung is used. That being said I was curious to check the various refresh rates because they are important.

Try googling monitor model + manual.

Many of the user manuals are still available on websites which specifically host those. Sometimes, you can also find a service manual there, if you're lucky. Anyway, the monitor's manual should have all the relevant refresh rate info.

Thank you I've tried the manuals but apparently only the vesa resolutions are stated.
Is there a program that I can use to check the various refresh rates?

Nemo1985 wrote on 2023-11-23, 11:27:

Thank you I've tried the manuals but apparently only the vesa resolutions are stated.
Is there a program that I can use to check the various refresh rates?

This probably will sound dumb but since it's a LG, try and send a higher than expected resolution, your monitor should show a "OUT OF RANGE" message along with its maximum scanrates.. At least that's how it works on my LG CRT monitor..

Sometimes the range is shown in the monitor menu too.

17" monitors often top out at 65kHz (good for 1400x1050@60Hz), but I have seen some that go to 75kHz (1600x1200@60Hz).
Larger ones tend to have higher range, That 19" should be around 90kHz and the NEC says it goes to 96kHz which is pretty good and LG should go to 110kHz which is even better. Larger ones often are 110kHz and beyond.

Tiido wrote on 2023-11-23, 22:00:

Sometimes the range is shown in the monitor menu too.

17" monitors often top out at 65kHz (good for 1400x1050@60Hz), but I have seen some that go to 75kHz (1600x1200@60Hz).
Larger ones tend to have higher range, That 19" should be around 90kHz and the NEC says it goes to 96kHz which is pretty good and LG should go to 110kHz which is even better. Larger ones often are 110kHz and beyond.

I see, thank you Tiido. I will get both the 19. I'm still undecided if to unpack the 17 inches.

I think it really comes down to which one looks better after all this time. The same CRT from the same manufacturer can look totally different after all these years, and I've seen lower quality brands with better image than higher quality brands.

If it were me, I'd probably try the new old stock first since it's likely to have the least number of hours, but the capacitors and other things could still have gone wrong over the years. I have a very large like-new CRT TV with excellent image quality, but it has geometry issues just from sitting for so long.

You might just have to try each one and see which one you like.

Depends on your use case, most of my life was on sub 15” CRTs, they work fine for dos.

Now years later I would like a tweener 19” + 2048x1536 monitor so I can have modern use, TV, streaming and dos applications.

Very disappointed how hard they are to find now, my college tossed a bunch of Gateway Destinations over a decade ago, would love to have one of those now.

17 inches are the sweet spot, because starting from 19 and up, i personally dislike the "blocky" visual on low resolution. I'm using a 19, but aiming to find a 17 on good shape sooner or later. I usually play on 800x600 or 1024x768

_StIwY_ wrote on 2024-05-04, 12:51:

17 inches are the sweet spot, because starting from 19 and up, i personally dislike the "blocky" visual on low resolution. I'm using a 19, but aiming to find a 17 on good shape sooner or later. I usually play on 800x600 or 1024x768

You can shrink the image as much as you want on a 19” monitor, just have black bars all around and voila small image

The best CRT monitor in 2024 will be the one with the least worn picture tube.
Personally, I have 17 and 19 inches. The first one is more universal and preferable for low resolutions. The second one is better suited for high resolutions.
From my own experience, I will say that it is better to buy a cheap one and be happy than to buy an expensive one and worry that its lifespan is limited. I bought my 17 inch Siemens for 2 bucks and I can do whatever I want with it until it dies.
P.S. I plan to buy a 14 or 15 inch in the future specifically for DOS gaming.