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Reply 321 of 467, by paradigital

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Seems I'm not yet done with the V7200 (X1800XT).

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Reply 322 of 467, by supercordo

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paradigital wrote on 2023-12-02, 09:20:

Seems I'm not yet done with the V7200 (X1800XT).

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Nice. I'll update in the morning. It's 4:30am for me.

Reply 323 of 467, by paradigital

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supercordo wrote on 2023-12-02, 09:25:
paradigital wrote on 2023-12-02, 09:20:

Seems I'm not yet done with the V7200 (X1800XT).

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Nice. I'll update in the morning. It's 4:30am for me.

4:30am? I've got a two year old, that is the morning 😁

Reply 324 of 467, by supercordo

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paradigital wrote on 2023-12-02, 09:27:
supercordo wrote on 2023-12-02, 09:25:
paradigital wrote on 2023-12-02, 09:20:

Seems I'm not yet done with the V7200 (X1800XT).

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Nice. I'll update in the morning. It's 4:30am for me.

4:30am? I've got a two year old, that is the morning 😁

I'm a night owl and I live alone so I usually stay up pretty late on the weekends. Its not looking like I'm going to get much sleep this weekend with so much benchmarking to get done. I have an EVGA 790i arriving tomorrow.

Reply 325 of 467, by Trashbytes

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paradigital wrote on 2023-12-02, 09:00:
acl wrote on 2023-12-02, 08:52:
ATI cards at last ! […]
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ATI cards at last !

paradigital wrote on 2023-12-02, 08:24:

If we’re cracking out the dual GPU cards…

Why sticking with dual when you can go quad !

Dual 3870x2
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Or Dual 4870x2 ?
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(Joking, not sure to compete with these cards because 1/ the only s775 Crossfire Motherboard I have is currently used. 2/ I don't know if I have good netburst on this socket. 3/ Quad gpu generally sucks)

Oh, that’s no problem, I have two 5970s! And two GTX 295s!

If I can get hold of a cheap 680i or 790i, I could also go tri-GTX480.

How about tri 295 ? or
Tri GTX 285 2Gb ? I have three 2Gb cards I could pull out of the display shelf, I have a suspicion the Three 2Gb cards will happily beat the three 295 cards.

I have a EVGA 790i Digital PWM board, no idea if itll take a NetBurst CPU though. (Its been in storage for a while, no idea if itll even fire up, 790i boards can be temperamental beasts)

Reply 328 of 467, by acl

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Trashbytes wrote on 2023-12-02, 09:46:
How about tri 295 ? or Tri GTX 285 2Gb ? I have three 2Gb cards I could pull out of the display shelf, I have a suspicion the Th […]
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paradigital wrote on 2023-12-02, 09:00:
acl wrote on 2023-12-02, 08:52:
ATI cards at last ! […]
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ATI cards at last !

Why sticking with dual when you can go quad !

Dual 3870x2
IMG_20221107_225257.jpg

Or Dual 4870x2 ?
IMG_20221107_222124.jpg

(Joking, not sure to compete with these cards because 1/ the only s775 Crossfire Motherboard I have is currently used. 2/ I don't know if I have good netburst on this socket. 3/ Quad gpu generally sucks)

Oh, that’s no problem, I have two 5970s! And two GTX 295s!

If I can get hold of a cheap 680i or 790i, I could also go tri-GTX480.

How about tri 295 ? or
Tri GTX 285 2Gb ? I have three 2Gb cards I could pull out of the display shelf, I have a suspicion the Three 2Gb cards will happily beat the three 295 cards.

I have a EVGA 790i Digital PWM board, no idea if itll take a NetBurst CPU though. (Its been in storage for a while, no idea if itll even fire up, 790i boards can be temperamental beasts)

Tri 295 (6 GPUs support) was never added iirc.
That would have been fun... since I actually have 3 GTX295 😄

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But tri 285 was supported and could beat dual 295. This is not a real surprise as 285 have higher clocks.

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Reply 329 of 467, by paradigital

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Trashbytes wrote on 2023-12-02, 10:15:
supercordo wrote on 2023-12-02, 10:00:

Updated! 😁

How hot be that Pentium D 945 🤣, thats a very nice overclock for that CPU.

To be fair, it's not *that* hot, it's idling around 36c and hitting 80c during a run. It's got a whopper of a heatpipe cooler on it though.

I'm sure it's got more to give too, now running at 4320MHz (270*16), I'm playing with the FSB and multi to find it's absolute max on this board now.

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Reply 330 of 467, by paradigital

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FINALLY broke 20k in 3DM2000. 275 x 16 = 4.4GHz, a 1GHz overclock 😀

EDIT: Messed up the screenshots so running the tests again 🙁

EDIT2: Here we are. Pushed the GPU a little further too.

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Reply 331 of 467, by supercordo

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paradigital wrote on 2023-12-02, 13:48:
FINALLY broke 20k in 3DM2000. 275 x 16 = 4.4GHz, a 1GHz overclock :) […]
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FINALLY broke 20k in 3DM2000. 275 x 16 = 4.4GHz, a 1GHz overclock 😀

EDIT: Messed up the screenshots so running the tests again 🙁

EDIT2: Here we are. Pushed the GPU a little further too.

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Very nice!

Reply 332 of 467, by supercordo

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Here are my current scores. About to take a nap at 10am haha. I may have to find an older card to get my 2k score higher.

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Reply 333 of 467, by H3nrik V!

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This is probably how far this goes. I'm gonna try a 640 next (that's the fastest I have at hand - hoping to get 250FSB on that too)

GPU shi*ts itself with BSODs if I overclock as much as 5 MHz. +20 MHz on mem seems to be where it maxes out. 1333 and 1366 is actually slower than 1320. 1400 gives BSOD

[Edit] Any advice how far I dare push CPU voltage? It's not stable at 3.6 just yet ...

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Reply 334 of 467, by paradigital

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From what I’ve read 1.45v is “safe”, 1.55v is the top end of overshoot, so likely ok for short bursts.

My Pentium D 945 “only” needs 1.425v for 4.4-4.5GHz (pretty sure the board is what’s crapping out higher than this).

Also, disable HT.

Reply 335 of 467, by H3nrik V!

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paradigital wrote on 2023-12-02, 16:13:

From what I’ve read 1.45v is “safe”, 1.55v is the top end of overshoot, so likely ok for short bursts.

My Pentium D 945 “only” needs 1.425v for 4.4-4.5GHz (pretty sure the board is what’s crapping out higher than this).

Also, disable HT.

But that's a 65nm cpu, right? Should have a little more headroom, all though thermals got away with Netburst.

Disable HT? To get more headroom for overclocking? 'Cause it seems that scores are marginally higher with HT than not ...

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Reply 336 of 467, by paradigital

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My experience both back in the day and now is that turning off HT has always netted me more clockspeed, easily enough to outstrip any benefit from HT when running single-threaded applications even on multi-thread capable OSes.

Reply 337 of 467, by H3nrik V!

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paradigital wrote on 2023-12-02, 22:42:

My experience both back in the day and now is that turning off HT has always netted me more clockspeed, easily enough to outstrip any benefit from HT when running single-threaded applications even on multi-thread capable OSes.

That's gonna be next thing, then 😎 I actually think I saw some of that on the Northwood 3.0C ...

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Reply 338 of 467, by Trashbytes

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acl wrote on 2023-12-02, 10:20:
Tri 295 (6 GPUs support) was never added iirc. That would have been fun... since I actually have 3 GTX295 😄 […]
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Trashbytes wrote on 2023-12-02, 09:46:
How about tri 295 ? or Tri GTX 285 2Gb ? I have three 2Gb cards I could pull out of the display shelf, I have a suspicion the Th […]
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paradigital wrote on 2023-12-02, 09:00:

Oh, that’s no problem, I have two 5970s! And two GTX 295s!

If I can get hold of a cheap 680i or 790i, I could also go tri-GTX480.

How about tri 295 ? or
Tri GTX 285 2Gb ? I have three 2Gb cards I could pull out of the display shelf, I have a suspicion the Three 2Gb cards will happily beat the three 295 cards.

I have a EVGA 790i Digital PWM board, no idea if itll take a NetBurst CPU though. (Its been in storage for a while, no idea if itll even fire up, 790i boards can be temperamental beasts)

Tri 295 (6 GPUs support) was never added iirc.
That would have been fun... since I actually have 3 GTX295 😄

IMG_20220127_104716.jpg

But tri 285 was supported and could beat dual 295. This is not a real surprise as 285 have higher clocks.

Its a shame they never allowed 6 way SLI but understandable I guess with how terrible scaling is beyond the third card, Still three 2Gb 285s should be fun to mess around with if I can get a Netburst running on the 790i. (Might have to mod a BIOS with the microcodes)

Reply 339 of 467, by Trashbytes

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paradigital wrote on 2023-12-02, 22:42:

My experience both back in the day and now is that turning off HT has always netted me more clockspeed, easily enough to outstrip any benefit from HT when running single-threaded applications even on multi-thread capable OSes.

Yeah this is more true with early HT stuff like Netburst and Athlon 64 before consumer operating systems were built around having HT and multicore setups. XP for instance doesn't handle 8 or more cores very well as the scheduler was never designed around that many cores and threads, Im not saying it cant handle them its just not as efficient at doing it as say Windows 7 or 10 are.

I have one of them crazy dual core Xeon 1366 CPUs that comes stock at 4.4Ghz, with HT turned off that CPU can hit some silly numbers while over clocking, with HT on it cant quite push as hard