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First post, by AlessandroB

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I start to explore my scsi stuff and the first problem is that the hard disk is seen only at 4,4gb instead of 8? originally is 73gb.

Reply 2 of 15, by AlessandroB

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weedeewee wrote on 2023-12-24, 09:30:

Is it truly a problem, or just a cosmetic issue ?

if i install win98 the resul is a 4gb c: hard drive

Reply 3 of 15, by weedeewee

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Which bios version is on the scsi controller ?

edit: check here [SOLVED] Need some help locating a specific BIOS for an Adaptec AHA-2940U2 OEM SCSI card.

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Reply 4 of 15, by AlessandroB

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i will try tnks. and.. the scsi settings (on the card and on the drive) are all correct? tnks

Reply 6 of 15, by ElectroSoldier

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On your picture of the drive.
As you are looking at it you have a jumper on pins 6 and 5.

Can you move the jumper block (or add another one) to jumper pins 4 as well or instead of 5.

So if you dont have a spare block then dont force SE mode, set the ID to 0 instead.

Reply 7 of 15, by weedeewee

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Agreed on the force se jumper not needed,
the term power jumper is also not needed
but
setting the jumper on ID BIT 0 would make the drive be ID 1

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Reply 8 of 15, by ElectroSoldier

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weedeewee wrote on 2023-12-24, 19:56:
Agreed on the force se jumper not needed, the term power jumper is also not needed but setting the jumper on ID BIT 0 would ma […]
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Agreed on the force se jumper not needed,
the term power jumper is also not needed
but
setting the jumper on ID BIT 0 would make the drive be ID 1

I dont know if it is or isnt required because I dont know the cable configuration.
If there is a terminator on the cable then it isnt required.

I want him to change the jumper to see if it behaves differently when a configuration change is made. Nothing more.
Im not expecting a change of anything other than the drive ID.

But the ID jumpers is pin 1 sets 3 bits, pin 2 sets 2 bits, pin 3 sets 1 bit and pin 4 sets 0 bits...
Or an I reading it the wrong way around?

Reply 9 of 15, by ElectroSoldier

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Yes I think I am reading it the wrong way around...

I think it only needs 1 jumper block on the middle set of pins.
Just to see what happens as much as anything else.

Reply 10 of 15, by weedeewee

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ElectroSoldier wrote on 2023-12-24, 20:07:
weedeewee wrote on 2023-12-24, 19:56:
Agreed on the force se jumper not needed, the term power jumper is also not needed but setting the jumper on ID BIT 0 would ma […]
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Agreed on the force se jumper not needed,
the term power jumper is also not needed
but
setting the jumper on ID BIT 0 would make the drive be ID 1

I dont know if it is or isnt required because I dont know the cable configuration.
If there is a terminator on the cable then it isnt required.

true

I want him to change the jumper to see if it behaves differently when a configuration change is made. Nothing more. Im not expec […]
Show full quote

I want him to change the jumper to see if it behaves differently when a configuration change is made. Nothing more.
Im not expecting a change of anything other than the drive ID.

But the ID jumpers is pin 1 sets 3 bits, pin 2 sets 2 bits, pin 3 sets 1 bit and pin 4 sets 0 bits...
Or an I reading it the wrong way around?

Yes
simple binary id bit 3 = 2³, id bit 2=2², ...
jumper set is 1, jumper not set = 0

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Reply 11 of 15, by ElectroSoldier

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weedeewee wrote on 2023-12-24, 20:21:
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ElectroSoldier wrote on 2023-12-24, 20:07:
weedeewee wrote on 2023-12-24, 19:56:
Agreed on the force se jumper not needed, the term power jumper is also not needed but setting the jumper on ID BIT 0 would ma […]
Show full quote

Agreed on the force se jumper not needed,
the term power jumper is also not needed
but
setting the jumper on ID BIT 0 would make the drive be ID 1

I dont know if it is or isnt required because I dont know the cable configuration.
If there is a terminator on the cable then it isnt required.

true

I want him to change the jumper to see if it behaves differently when a configuration change is made. Nothing more. Im not expec […]
Show full quote

I want him to change the jumper to see if it behaves differently when a configuration change is made. Nothing more.
Im not expecting a change of anything other than the drive ID.

But the ID jumpers is pin 1 sets 3 bits, pin 2 sets 2 bits, pin 3 sets 1 bit and pin 4 sets 0 bits...
Or an I reading it the wrong way around?

Yes
simple binary id bit 3 = 2³, id bit 2=2², ...
jumper set is 1, jumper not set = 0

Yeah I know how it works, Ive been using SCSI devices for over 30 years 😀

Edit

Nearly 40 year...
Now I really do feel old! 🙁

Reply 12 of 15, by weedeewee

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ElectroSoldier wrote on 2023-12-24, 21:31:
Yeah I know how it works, Ive been using SCSI devices for over 30 years :-) […]
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weedeewee wrote on 2023-12-24, 20:21:
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ElectroSoldier wrote on 2023-12-24, 20:07:

I dont know if it is or isnt required because I dont know the cable configuration.
If there is a terminator on the cable then it isnt required.

true

I want him to change the jumper to see if it behaves differently when a configuration change is made. Nothing more. Im not expec […]
Show full quote

I want him to change the jumper to see if it behaves differently when a configuration change is made. Nothing more.
Im not expecting a change of anything other than the drive ID.

But the ID jumpers is pin 1 sets 3 bits, pin 2 sets 2 bits, pin 3 sets 1 bit and pin 4 sets 0 bits...
Or an I reading it the wrong way around?

Yes
simple binary id bit 3 = 2³, id bit 2=2², ...
jumper set is 1, jumper not set = 0

Yeah I know how it works, Ive been using SCSI devices for over 30 years 😀

Edit

Nearly 40 year...
Now I really do feel old! 🙁

Well, you learn something everyday.

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Reply 13 of 15, by rasz_pl

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Do SCSI disks support something like ATA HPA? I dont see why they would (LBA from the start, no capacity limits) but you never know

https://github.com/raszpl/sigrok-disk FM/MFM/RLL decoder
https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module (AT&T Globalyst)
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 ram board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad

Reply 14 of 15, by AlessandroB

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ElectroSoldier wrote on 2023-12-24, 19:22:
On your picture of the drive. As you are looking at it you have a jumper on pins 6 and 5. […]
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On your picture of the drive.
As you are looking at it you have a jumper on pins 6 and 5.

Can you move the jumper block (or add another one) to jumper pins 4 as well or instead of 5.

So if you dont have a spare block then dont force SE mode, set the ID to 0 instead.

but jumper seems to me in 2-3 position, not 6 and 5

Reply 15 of 15, by AlessandroB

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Update and it work at full capacity, now my Pentium200 have a super fast 70gb scsi hard disk drive. tnks