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First post, by zwrr

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Hello everyone, I got an Octek HIPPO-15 motherboard, everything works fine with Intel 80486DX2-66, I have a random freeze problem after replacing it with AMD X5-133, the specific information is here:Octek HIPPO-15 freezes randomly when using AMD X5-133ADZ
After checking, I looked at the Socket3 socket and found that there are a lot of pins that are abnormal, I suspect this is the cause of the crash, is there any good way to replace them?

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Reply 1 of 9, by The Serpent Rider

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1) Desolder the socket completely.
2) Carefully pry out the socket bedrock from the pins and then desolder damaged pins.

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.

Reply 2 of 9, by maxtherabbit

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I've never been able to remove individual pins from a socket 3, and I've tried pretty hard on a sacrificial socket. Desolder and replace the whole socket is pretty much your only option here.

I would try cleaning them with some contact cleaner first

Reply 4 of 9, by pshipkov

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I found this operation relatively easy.
A bit surprised by the feedback here.
Take the lid off. Do it carefully because the holders can be brittle. If break something Loctite helps a lot.
Desolder the damaged pins. Make sure you have proper replacements for them.
Sometimes it is possible to simply straighten them, if they are not too damaged.

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Reply 5 of 9, by maxtherabbit

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pshipkov wrote on 2024-01-08, 15:24:
I found this operation relatively easy. A bit surprised by the feedback here. Take the lid off. Do it carefully because the hold […]
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I found this operation relatively easy.
A bit surprised by the feedback here.
Take the lid off. Do it carefully because the holders can be brittle. If break something Loctite helps a lot.
Desolder the damaged pins. Make sure you have proper replacements for them.
Sometimes it is possible to simply straighten them, if they are not too damaged.

I've done exactly that - desoldered the pins and removed the lid of the socket - they still did not come out (and they were 100% desoldered and loose on the bottom I assure you)

That being said, I've done the exact same thing on a socket 370 and they lifted right out. So I think the issue is the socket 3 contact interface is different

Reply 6 of 9, by tauro

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They don't look damaged to me.

Do you think they're not making contact correctly with the CPU?

You could test for continuity with the processor in, attaching a wire directly to the CPU pin.

Reply 7 of 9, by Trashbytes

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tauro wrote on 2024-01-09, 06:28:

They don't look damaged to me.

Do you think they're not making contact correctly with the CPU?

You could test for continuity with the processor in, attaching a wire directly to the CPU pin.

I cant see any damage either, if anything they look a bit corroded/dirty but nothing that some deox-it wouldn't be able to fix.

I know the first thing I do with these old socket 3 boards is to hit them with a warm bath in some de-min water and a little dish soap, give them a gentle scrub with a soft paint brush and then hit them with ISO and let them dry off for a week or two in a warm spot. Anything that cleaning doesn't get will usually get removed with a little PCB cleaner or Deox-it, never had an issue with this method but I have heard of people throwing boards in the dishwasher on a rinse cycle.

Reply 8 of 9, by zwrr

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I managed to fix it.
Step 1:
I carefully removed the Socket3 socket with a heat gun from a EXP4044 that had been scrapped due to a leaking battery, and I could see that it had perfect contacts.

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Step 2:
Similarly, carefully removing the CPU socket on the HIPPO-15 with a heat gun, and then I cleaned every hole, which was a serious test of my patience.

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Finally, I installed the socket to the HIPPO-15, soldered every pin, replaced a few capacitors, cleaned and installed the CPU, memory, graphics card, hard drive, and then turned it on, and it worked!

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I've tested Doom and Quake dozens of times, and it's running very stable, with no issues, and it's rock solid.

Test Environment:
AMD x5-133 (40x4 160Mhz)
8MB x2(60ns)
Matrox Millennium II

Doom score 1419, Quake 17.0fps.

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Reply 9 of 9, by tauro

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Nice job! 👏