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First post, by Simple Mind

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Hello,
I'm trying to get the Hasbro Game Frogger to work.
After a few seconds in the Start screen i get a Bluescreen, despite which options I choose in the Video Setup (Software, MMX, Primary Graphics Adapter).
Tried Driver Version 81.98 and 45.23 so far.
Hardware is a Asrock KVM72 with an Athlon XP 2000, 512 MB Ram and a Soundblaster ct4810.
Any suggestions?

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Reply 1 of 15, by Repo Man11

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Have you run the Direct X tests? Is this the only game you have an issue with? Have you tried any video benchmarks to see if any of them have an issue?

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Reply 2 of 15, by Simple Mind

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Direct3d with Hardware rendering is not working. It gives me a black screen and:
"Abbruch in 18(CreateDevice) HRESULT =0x80004005 (Allgemeiner Fehler)"
I'm using DirectX 7 from the Frogger-CD

This is so far the only game. It will be a reward for my pupils working on network units. Finally they can play a LAN-Game.

Reply 3 of 15, by Repo Man11

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That motherboard seems to be too old and obscure for any good information to turn up with a quick Google search - could you list the systems specifications and all of the drivers that you have installed, including the specific versions??

After watching many YouTube videos about older computer hardware, YouTube began recommending videos about trains - are they trying to tell me something?

Reply 4 of 15, by elszgensa

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I kinda doubt the Geforce drivers have been tested awfully well against a DirectX version released five years prior, so maybe try updating that?

Reply 6 of 15, by leileilol

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Simple Mind wrote on 2024-01-20, 15:52:

I'm using DirectX 7 from the Frogger-CD

For DirectX9-class hardware (The GeforceFX launched after DX9 and is among the first to use DX9's shader model 2.0), you should be using at minimum DirectX 9. Holding back DirectX to an unsupported version will not help compatibility.

(also i'm sure the CD only had DirectX 5)

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Reply 7 of 15, by elszgensa

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The game itself is a DX5 one for sure, but maybe the disc is a rerelease including an updated runtime, who knows...

Reply 8 of 15, by Repo Man11

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According to this: "The error is saying that it's not detecting a Direct X 9.0c video card, which is usually a sign that the video card driver is gone or your card is failing."
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/f … 5e-d9ed48984558

Of course that's Vista not Win98 ( installing Direct X 9 wouldn't help in that case), but that does indicate to me that installing Direct X 9 (as previously mentioned) would be worth a shot. I can't recall if I've ever tried to use a fx 5XXX video card with Win98 without having installed Direct X 9, but I don't think I have.

After watching many YouTube videos about older computer hardware, YouTube began recommending videos about trains - are they trying to tell me something?

Reply 9 of 15, by Simple Mind

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Thank you very much for so many suggestions.
The Board is an Asrock K7VM2. Sorry.
I just made a clean Install with Win 98 SE., MSI FX 5200 Driver 81.98 and Soundblaster CT4810.
DirectX 7 is installed. Maybe it came from the Soundblaster Installation.
Will install Directx 9 now. Shall I install DirectX5, too?
I know the Patch. Doesn't help.
But isn't it strange that the game runs for a few seconds?

Reply 10 of 15, by Repo Man11

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Simple Mind wrote on 2024-01-20, 18:51:
Thank you very much for so many suggestions. The Board is an Asrock K7VM2. Sorry. I just made a clean Install with Win 98 SE., M […]
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Thank you very much for so many suggestions.
The Board is an Asrock K7VM2. Sorry.
I just made a clean Install with Win 98 SE., MSI FX 5200 Driver 81.98 and Soundblaster CT4810.
DirectX 7 is installed. Maybe it came from the Soundblaster Installation.
Will install Directx 9 now. Shall I install DirectX5, too?
I know the Patch. Doesn't help.
But isn't it strange that the game runs for a few seconds?

The Nvidia 45.23 ought to work the best of the drivers available. Knowing what version of the chipset drivers you installed might be useful, especially if installing Direct X 9 doesn't solve the issue. Direct X is backwards compatible (though not perfectly) so once you upgraded to Direct X 9 you should be done with Direct X.

After watching many YouTube videos about older computer hardware, YouTube began recommending videos about trains - are they trying to tell me something?

Reply 11 of 15, by Simple Mind

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Thanks for the help so far.
I just changed Soundcard, Graphiccard and Ram to avoid bluescreens but they still keep coming every second time i boot Win98.
I have to test on another PC which I must bring at home first.
If you're interested I will post my results here.

Reply 12 of 15, by Simple Mind

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Hello,
now I've installed Frogger on a second Mainboard (also an ASRock K7VM2 Rev. 3.01) with the same Graphiccard but without the Soundcard. I used the Mainboard Audio instead.
Runs fine with 81.98 and Directx 9.0c.
Made me curious. Now I'm going to reinstall everything on the first PC from scratch.
Is the ct4810 (Chip CT5880) known for making problems?

Reply 13 of 15, by Repo Man11

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Creative sound cards have been known to have issues with Via chipset motherboards. You initially listed the board as a "KVM72" and nothing came up, but I can see now that you mistyped it and it is a Via KM266 motherboard. When I installed a Creative Audigy in my Via KT266A motherboard with Win98, I had to move it to a different slot to eliminate a resource conflict (pretty typical). This can be exacerbated/minimized by the version of drivers you install for the sound card and the chipset.

After watching many YouTube videos about older computer hardware, YouTube began recommending videos about trains - are they trying to tell me something?

Reply 14 of 15, by Simple Mind

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Thanks.
Good to know that this is a known issue.
I can't change the Slot of the Soundcard because there are only two of them an the other is next to the "hot" Graphiccard.
I'll try it with the chipset Drivers (4in1_XP_2K_ME-98(446) which I didn't installed before.

Reply 15 of 15, by Simple Mind

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I installed the chipset drivers first and the Soundcard Drivers. Game started, but I couldn't hear the frog jumping.
Patch installed, sound was there. Perfect.

Still problems on the other PC. I think this Mainboard can't handle the 512 MB Ram.
I will replace it with 256 MB.
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