Tried the different cores? What is the "latest" version of dosbox you tried?

Thanks for the help 😄

DOSBox 0.72, and I tried normal and dynamic a few times and full once.

Thanks again = D

"version 1.00"... Maybe there are some patches for the game?

You're playing one of the most fickle games I've EVER come accross. Unless you play it on a 486, the game is totally off on speed. In Dosbox, its impossible to set the correct amount of cycles because some parts will be jerky while others will be super fast.

Question with these kind of errors is always : is it a bug in the game or in Dosbox? I've known quite a few games that crashed because of a bug that crept into the savegame file. It may even be a corrupted file on your hard drive so try reinstalling the game.

red_avatar wrote:

You're playing one of the most fickle games I've EVER come accross. Unless you play it on a 486, the game is totally off on speed. In Dosbox, its impossible to set the correct amount of cycles because some parts will be jerky while others will be super fast.

Question with these kind of errors is always : is it a bug in the game or in Dosbox? I've known quite a few games that crashed because of a bug that crept into the savegame file. It may even be a corrupted file on your hard drive so try reinstalling the game.

I'm very sure that it isn't DOSBox, but the game really. It's never happened to me with other games.

But you're right, this game's really difficult to get working.

I acctounally wouldn't mind setting a regular configuration, and one configuration with a really high number of cycles, that's the first thing that I tried, D-fend uses 20,000 as the default max (though it lets you go higher than that), so I didn't try running any higher.

I'll try reinstalling, hopefully it will fix the problem, it seems like the best solution with the least amount of work that might actually work.

Thanks for the tips, red_avatar 😄

Edit: Sorry, none of these worked 100%.

I tried all the cores, and cycles 40,000, 80,000, and 200,000. Not even reinstalling helped, so I'm worried it probably is a corrupt savefile. Though the game works besides that so far.

I'm gunna try to see if this part of the game has a way to get through it without having to talk to anyone on the screen.

I'm also thinking that possibly it crashes at random. I was able to talk to one of the Cleash, who gave the info I needed away, but as soon as the fight scene started (which was unevitable, because it was the only option), the game crashed. Another time, I was fully capable of interrogating an artifact hunter that was on the screen. But when I tried again and no luck.

The crash is simply that the game uses the hourglass cursor, appears frozen, and if you press any key on the keyboard, the game boots you out of DOSBox.

There is a patch - I have it installed.

I can't get it to run anyway, it just stops after:

z:\>c:
c:\>cd \ALIEN
c:\ALIEN>ALIEN.EXE
DOS/4GW ... 1.96
Copywright ... 1990-1994
Alien Logic: SkyRealms of Jorune
VERSION: 1.02
_

I remember DOS4GW 1.96 giving me a lot of problems. Try updating it to version 1.97 or newer. You could also replace it with DOS32a, which is free.

Get DOS32a -> HERE

Thanks for the quick reply, but I don't know how to make a game with dos/4gw compiled in use a different dos extender.

Does anyone have a DOSBox launcher profile or similar that i could try please.

richard

Sorry, just me being silly - i forgot to mount the CD! dos/4gw is fine and i did work out thar dos32a alien.exe was how to use a different extender.

Good. People that do some research. Good. Good.

Glad to hear you solved it. 😎

I don't get any sound, but ran out of time as my two year old wanted my attention.

I will have a bit more of a play today.

I would still appreciate a fully working DBGL .conf for Alien Logic, but I will play when I have time.

richard

Thanks for all the possibilities and responces, guys. I'm sorry I hadn't replied in such a long while.

Anyways, I've tried both the patch and the updated DOS4GW extender (thanks, eL_PuSHeR and richard.broadhurst). But I didn't get any result form them.

I maintain that the problem is a deal of "too many sprites on one screen" therefore possibly dealing with RAM, explaining the slowness. Then the locking up and exitting might be just that the computer can't deal with the switch from hundreds of sprites to just one or two (for the close-up of the Cleash or artifact hunter talking), not sure if letters count.

So it might not be something that either could take care of.

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Richard, I just use the Wizard on D-Fend and edit a few things.

Type:
Name: Alien Logic
Game File: C:\ALIEN\ALIEN.EXE
Setup: D:\INSTALL.EXE
Default on everything else.

Then I use the profile editor to change a few things:
General -> Resolution: 640x480
Environment -> Cyles: 7250
Mounting -> Edit D:\ -> Mount Type: CDROM, check Enable I/O control.

Then I go to the folder where D-Fend keeps it's confs (normally C:\D-fend\Confs), copy Alien Logic.conf to my Alien Logic DOSBOX folder (C:\Alien\DOSBOX), rename the conf file to dosbox.conf. Copy dosbox.exe, libogg-0.dll, libvorbis-0.dll, libvorbisfile-3.dll, SDL.dll, and SDL_net.dll to that folder too.

Use notepad to change a few things.
- Change captures to "captures=capture"
- Change the info after the mountings to:
cd C:\ALIEN
C:
ALIEN.EXE
exit

Create Shortcut of DOSBOX.EXE, rename to "SkyRealms of Jorune - Alien Logic" and paste into the right folder in the start menu.

If you want an exact copy of the conf, I could make it for you later and attach to the topic.

Hello,
Not sure if anyone ever got this fix... But I found this information on a Walkthrough site.

IMPORTANT!!! Do not - repeat, DO NOT!! - visit the ruins at 214,187 (the Crossroads) until Salrough tells you about them. If you explore these ruins before he tells you about them, the game will crash later on when you try talking to the Cleash general. This is fatal, as you must speak to him to set other events further in the game. So stay away until you hear of them from Salrough.

Thanks Devonicus. I already knew that but thanks for the reminder.

The game's pretty non-linear, through the right sequence of events and cheats, it's pretty easy to shave a few days of work from the game (I don't suggest it though, because like you said, there's at least that bug and it gets rid of the fun really. It's best just to do things as Salrough tells you because getting lost is pretty easy in this game.)

I do have a theory that it's actually the rending method that is messing up the game and not the speed. My supporting statement is "If DOS can do it, why not DOSBox?" because I have a firm belief that DOSBox is like DOS+, but anyways, I'm gunna try to set the rendering to DirectDraw, it helped with a problem where the palette got messed up, it will probably help with this. Wish me luck guys 😀

P.S: I haven't had the time to actually use the computer and won't get to try it until I get better because I messed up my leg.

I think I found the fix to the problem.

ALIEN.EXE wrote:

entity must have NULL jig_tokens situation package
Thank you for playing Alien Logic

I took off the "exit" line from the DOSBOX autoexec and found this error message.

I hadn't applied the patch because I thought that the patch was for DOS4GW version 1.1, but it turned out to be for the game. It's downloadable at Brøderbund Support — Download Alien Logic® Patch 11. I renamed it to Patch11.exe.

(I didn't attach the patch since it will most likely be up forever.)

It works like MiniMax said.

MiniMax wrote:

"version 1.00"... Maybe there are some patches for the game?

I ahve same problem as the person above has. I am borrowing his quote from above.

z:\>c:
c:\>cd \ALIEN
c:\ALIEN>ALIEN.EXE
DOS/4GW ... 1.96
Copywright ... 1990-1994
Alien Logic: SkyRealms of Jorune
VERSION: 1.02

He says he fixed the problem. How do I mount the cd after the message above? Thank you

luckenbill56 wrote:

I ahve same problem as the person above has. I am borrowing his quote from above. […]
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I ahve same problem as the person above has. I am borrowing his quote from above.

z:\>c:
c:\>cd \ALIEN
c:\ALIEN>ALIEN.EXE
DOS/4GW ... 1.96
Copywright ... 1990-1994
Alien Logic: SkyRealms of Jorune
VERSION: 1.02

He says he fixed the problem. How do I mount the cd after the message above? Thank you

Hello, thank you for responding 😀

The mount that I use, I mostly generated using the original D-Fend, but I might've tweaked it a bit too (not sure).

Using D-Fend, the options where:
Mount Type: CDROM
Select Drive/CDROM/Image or floppy to mount: D:\ (Replace D with your CD-ROM drive letter)
Drive label:
[Checked] Enable Input/Output (recommended for WinXP/2K/NT4)
Mounted drive letter: D (replace with the letter that you configured with)

In command prompt, this looks like:

dosbox.conf wrote:

mount D "D:" -t cdrom -ioctl

It works for me 😀 Hope this helps!

That is where I am confused. Where do I mount the cd? No clue.