1. For sound in DOS you want to use IRQ5 (or IRQ7 if not possible). Just reserve that IRQ in the Bios (set it to Legacy ISA or something like that).
2. I was using VIAFMTSR and tried a handful of games and all worked as expected (a year or so ago). Didn't disable LAN but needed to play with some Bios settings and probably disabled a serial or parallel port.
3. For a PS/2 splitter I used a Lindy 30365 PS/2 Y-Adaptor (available from Amazon etc) which works without problem. Some Y adapter cables are know to cause problems like you describe (not only with a t5710 btw).
4. Can't remember any mouse problems in DOS but as my t5710 is in storage atm I can't check which version of ctmouse I was using.
5. Didn't have a restart problem like you described or any blue screens when I used it.
6. That's a know USB 2.0 problem in Windows 98SE especially with VIA USB chipsets. Not really a lot you can do about it (apart from not using USB).
7. USB cd-rom works in Windows 98SE. If that is useful depends on your use case. 😉 Didn't try it in DOS but normally it won't work.
8. Didn't experience any throttling when playing games. But it probably will if you will run prime95 or so all day.
9. Tuning is not really a thing on a t5710 as the Bios is very limited. Maybe there are some hardware mods possible but then you need some active cooling.

Thank you.
1. No such settings on this simple Bios.
2. SBEMU works with everything on. But some games (DOS) wont work on this maschine. With sbemu, viafmtsr or without sound.
3. Thx, i will have a look.
4. USB mouse worked a bit better, but still problems.
5. Only at restart, completly stable otherwise in Win98SE.
6. A 32gb Stick works very well as external storage, but this thing is slow enough without additional slowdown. UT99 with some light hanging is the best it can do.
7. With or without the usb slowdown? I guess wirth slowdown...
8. Aida64 can display the temperature. Not really cool, even without load.
9. No software overclocking? Via Tool? Bios Mod? Anything?

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Not familiar with the model, do you mean it has a single PS/2 port and you can manually select what to use it for?

That will (if correctly implemented in the bios…) configure the KBC/SuperIO accordingly, but doesn't mean it can't try to outsmart you (modern designs accept reversed k/m, in fact it's a wonder the classic ones don't when both have clearly different IDs) 😀

If you simply mean your splitter works if you plug the mouse in the purple socket - it's fine, you can bet competing brands of laptops (the most common computers with a single PS/2 connector) were made expecting different things on the "main" pins, so the colors/labels don't mean much on a different motherboard! 😀

Of course, there's no guarantee the "alternate" pins are implemented in all of the connector/cable/switch…

Yes, the machine only has a single PS/2 connection. However, a splitter is expressly provided. But many people use USB mouse and PS/2 keyboard.
The BIOS update has made a difference, I can now select PS/2 Mouse in the menu, and the connections both work without being swapped. Great success...I'm testing another mouse driver again.

Edit:
The other mouse drivers now work. Not bad, just doesn't help. The two problem games continue to hang. Thanks anyway. Somehow no one has tested as much as me in DOS, or my t5710 is broken, who knows.^^

What ist the best storage option? 4GB+?

This is by far the worst retro pc.
Tried a USB to PS/2 Adapter. Keyboard ist working under DOS. Mouse is working in Win 98SE.
Mouse in DOS, not a chance. 5 drivers, continious clicking and no real movement.

Demolition-Man wrote on 2024-05-24, 11:37:

This is by far the worst retro pc.
Tried a USB to PS/2 Adapter. Keyboard ist working under DOS. Mouse is working in Win 98SE.
Mouse in DOS, not a chance. 5 drivers, continious clicking and no real movement.

Lol. Because you have a problem with a converter it is automatically the worst retro pc?

Anyway, I used it with an ps/2 y cable and it works perfectly fine. Not using it a lot but everything I threw at it worked quitte ok. Maybe look at some YouTube videos because many say it's one of the better mini retro pc's.

Does it have a Transmeta Crusoe processor, by any chance ?
- If so, Windows Me would be worth a try. It's mostly 32-Bit, but not NT-like.

Edit: Here are pictures of mine. I've installed the CF reader on the shielding plate.
Re: How to install DX7 but there is limited space?

It's more like that, for every error that you solve, two new ones appear. 😉
Ok it seems the adapter needs a driver, so only can work on Win 98 upwards.

And there is no such thing as a retro PC where everything just works. Maximum possible troubleshooting is part of the hobby, right?
Now the start button or the PSU is defective. That's what I meant.

Three games simply don't work: Blood (Plasma), Oregon Trail, and SimCity 2000. All of them freeze with a sound loop.

Does it have a Transmeta Crusoe processor, by any chance ?
- If so, Windows Me would be worth a try. It's mostly 32-Bit, but not NT-like.

Yes it does.

But what about DOS: Can you use the DOS part of ME in the same way as that of 98SE? So before the GUI, command prompt and so on.

And yes, if a passive CF card adapter works, this would might be a solotion for the limited storage. Thx.

You can use a USB floppy in Win98 DOS on the ThinClient.
But using a USB CD-ROM ist not possible?

Thanks for pointing this thread to me!!!

I had no problems whatsoever installing Windows 98SE on the t5710 but I picked all the right drivers beforehand. One of the more important things to notice is that it only uses one IDE controller (IRQ14), not two, so that setting needs to be changed before installing other drivers that use IRQ15, otherwise windows will restart in compatibility mode, etc).
This computer has a few weird quirks but it's possible to solve most of them.
First, the keyboard and mouse setting. After I updated the BIOS to v1.08, it defaults to mouse. The way it worked for me was to use a regular PS2 splitter. I changed the setting in BIOS to KEYBOARD instead of MOUSE and noticed that the mouse worked in DOS but not the keyboard. I had read somewhere (can't remember where, exactly) that sometimes you need to switch the cables so i did it and everything went fine (my cable had the words mouse and keyboard at each end, so i simply switched the connections....)-
Tried at least two different small mouse drivers and they both worked (The Mitsumi one is very light and i also tried the old MOUSE.COM from IBM).
Not many settings can be changed on BIOS but as far as i can tell, IRQ5 is always used by the USB controller. This doesn't matter much in DOS anyway, and i was able to pick IRQ5 as a setting for both SBVIACFG and SBEMU and had no problems. On Windows, it's better to use IRQ7 and DISABLE LPT1 in BIOS beforehand if using VXD drivers. In this case, it's only possible to install them if SBVIACFG enabled the legacy sound emulation....
Like was said before, disabling the network adapter frees up a lot of memory for DOS... Disabling the USB ports didn't seem to make much difference, anyway, except HIMEM.SYS loading faster when checking upper memory...
I'm attaching here a photo of the cheap PS2 Splitter cable I got on ebay and the mouse drivers i used.
Let me know if you need some more help finding the correct Windows 98SE drivers.
Cheers!

Thx!
My power button is broken, which makes testing difficult. PS/2 now works without any problems. But I can't get a few things to work, which makes me think there's something wrong with my setup.

Some games (DOS) don't work at all.
Some games freeze as soon as you move the mouse. The restart bug still exists. The USB slowdown severely limits the usability for games under Windows 98SE. The only option would be to expand the memory with an IDE to CF adapter. What else? External USB DVD drive works for booting or in Windows 98SE. But only with slowdown. You can even watch DVDs with it. I can say it's a nice toy, but no match for real retro PCs. Too many small problems and a few big ones. As I said, it can't be ruled out that my ThinClient is somehow not working properly.

SBEMU sound quality on games like Jazz Jackrabbit is way better than VIAFMTSR, I’m not sure what’s going on with Via’s implementation. Compatibility is great but quality is hit and miss. You can probably add menus to config.sys and autoexec.bat to enable one or the other.

Demolition-Man wrote on 2024-06-20, 23:14:

Thx! My power button is broken, which makes testing difficult. PS/2 now works without any problems. But I can't get a few things […]
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Thx!
My power button is broken, which makes testing difficult. PS/2 now works without any problems. But I can't get a few things to work, which makes me think there's something wrong with my setup.

Some games (DOS) don't work at all.
Some games freeze as soon as you move the mouse. The restart bug still exists. The USB slowdown severely limits the usability for games under Windows 98SE. The only option would be to expand the memory with an IDE to CF adapter. What else? External USB DVD drive works for booting or in Windows 98SE. But only with slowdown. You can even watch DVDs with it. I can say it's a nice toy, but no match for real retro PCs. Too many small problems and a few big ones. As I said, it can't be ruled out that my ThinClient is somehow not working properly.

Restart bug could be indeed caused by a malfunctioning part... I'm not very tech savvy but maybe a bad capacitator on the motherboard or the actual battery?

Restart bug can be caused by some USB sticks/HDD enclosures.

Sometimes the restart works, but most of the time bluecescreen.
I`ll show you later.
Happen since the third new instalaltion.

Ok maybe the text will do:
In englisch would be: fatal exception 0E has accured at 0020:00000015

Dont if its always the same address.

No memory errors, boards looks like new, runs stable. Maybe a driver error. With or without USB btw.^^

Even with new thermal paste, the CPU is 38-40 degree idle (55 degree after few hours) and 80 degree in full load (some 98-100 degree after a while). So i guess long sessions at 80 degree it gonna throttle.
Motherboard it's same thing, 38-40 degree idle and 60 degree in full load. Even got 70 degree after hours of full load.

It's sad they not implemented a space to at least put a fan.

If you never use much the thin client, it gonna be fine but if you use demanding games it gonna throttle because of bad passive cooling system.

About the values up they are valid, because i've 4x times that t5710 in my collection and they were brand new (just new paste, new battery, replaced memory to 512 and new disk-on-module to 16GB).

Strange nobody ever checked temperature of this PC running and talked about it.