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Reply 740 of 775, by Spikey

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The problem is that tracks which use the default drum kit STANDARD don't have a patch change for it on channel 10. Since the first track that plays upon loading uses ORCHESTRA, incorrect drumkits play during the game, and in fact anytime a STANDARD intended track follows a non-STANDARD one, if that makes sense.

If you reset the unit between every MIDI file externally (or insert a 001 program change in the offending tracks), they'll all play as intended outside the game.

I don't know about game versions, or SC versions maybe behaving differently and not showing/having the issue.

Reply 741 of 775, by stanwebber

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just a heads up, i have gotten sound canvas va v1.0.3 activated under xp sp2, both 32bit and 64bit, so it's not impossible. you will need a sse2 capable cpu and the c++ 2010 runtime library. 64bit just worked, but 32bit required a 'portable' scva release before activation was recognized.

i used falcosoft's midiplayer v6.2 and/or vst driver v2.1.0 to load the vst.

Reply 742 of 775, by Karmeck

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PhilsComputerLab wrote on 2015-12-28, 09:46:
Ok it seems to work now. […]
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Ok it seems to work now.

I used these two programs:

- loopMIDI
- SAVIHost

Here is a screenshot with Doom 2 in DOSBox 😀

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Reply 743 of 775, by Roland User

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This bug some day will be fixed ?
Or Roland so treat people like idiots what think what can do only anti-pirate protection and at all not need fix bugs in each new version ?

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Reply 744 of 775, by EmperorGrieferus

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Roland User wrote on 2024-05-15, 00:08:

This bug some day will be fixed ?
Or Roland so treat people like idiots what think what can do only anti-pirate protection and at all not need fix bugs in each new version ?

The first file is broken, so I have ZERO idea of what you're talking about. But since you're Russian, I propose that we continue discussion in DMs, shall we?

Reply 745 of 775, by Roland User

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I'm packing in WinRAR 7.0 , maybe you try unpack with WinRAR 4 and older , if yes , so please , download and install rar version 7.0 or any version from 5.0 and latter ) or so https://disk.yandex.ru/i/PQk7dLbJkFosjA

Reply 746 of 775, by Roland User

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Please answer to me , this realy so force diffirece in SCVA in mode SC-88 and real SC-88 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSJu8u3QOmk ? Or in video used inserts and other methods of do better sound ?

Reply 747 of 775, by darry

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As mentionned here, this is getting discontinued by September (not available to buy after that).

https://rolandcloud.com/news/sound-canvas-va- … ng-discontinued

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Re: [RELEASE] Nuked-SC55, low-level Roland SC-55 series emulator announcement

Reply 748 of 775, by Paralel

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darry wrote on 2024-07-13, 17:15:
As mentionned here, this is getting discontinued by September (not available to buy after that). […]
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As mentionned here, this is getting discontinued by September (not available to buy after that).

https://rolandcloud.com/news/sound-canvas-va- … ng-discontinued

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Re: [RELEASE] Nuked-SC55, low-level Roland SC-55 series emulator announcement

Well, that sucks. I wonder if they plan to create a substitute, or just flat out discontinue it.

Reply 749 of 775, by darry

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Paralel wrote on 2024-07-13, 20:57:
darry wrote on 2024-07-13, 17:15:
As mentionned here, this is getting discontinued by September (not available to buy after that). […]
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As mentionned here, this is getting discontinued by September (not available to buy after that).

https://rolandcloud.com/news/sound-canvas-va- … ng-discontinued

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Re: [RELEASE] Nuked-SC55, low-level Roland SC-55 series emulator announcement

Well, that sucks. I wonder if they plan to create a substitute, or just flat out discontinue it.

I'm going to make some wild guesses.

- They (Roland) have been looking at sales figures and have noticed them being on the decline for this product
- They have come to the conclusion that most of the money to be made here has already been made
- They will be looking at post discontinustion announcement figures and, potentially, pirate downloads post discontinuation to gain a perspective for the future
- They might relaunch a variant of SCVA (migrated to a new platform) if they believe there is potentially money to be made
- Any future variant will likely be subscription only

IMHO, it was nice yhat we got this. Roland do deserve $ for offering this product (even if it is not perfect). We had (and still do) have a chance to buy it. If there isn't enough money to be made for Roland to sell a commericial product, the future will belong to open source, reverse engineered Sound Canvas reimplementations. Those will likely be geared, first and foremost, toward retro gaming and, in time, they will likely achieve much greater accuracy than Sound Canvas VA.

Please free to call me Captain Obvious, if you must.

Reply 750 of 775, by APN_K

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If they do make another iteration of the Sound Canvas VA the UI would need a complete redesign, since it was made for mobile first with it's primary platform being the Apple IOS, the PC version was a direct port only slightly modified which is why it has the side scrollbar rather than show all the instrument parts on a single screen which I always found annoying.

Reply 752 of 775, by RetroGamer4Ever

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The refreshed Windows MIDI 2.0 API and stack could bring new soft-synth offerings from Roland and Yamaha, though I'm not aware of any talks about that happening, beyond that Yamaha is at least involved in the process of what's going on at this time. I'm not sure what Roland is up to and I haven't been following the development closely, but I will take a look at what's going on in the Windows MIDI dev discord and see if I can glean any useful or important information about the directions being taken.

Reply 753 of 775, by Falcosoft

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RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2024-07-14, 12:55:

The refreshed Windows MIDI 2.0 API and stack could bring new soft-synth offerings from Roland and Yamaha, though I'm not aware of any talks about that happening, beyond that Yamaha is at least involved in the process of what's going on at this time. I'm not sure what Roland is up to and I haven't been following the development closely, but I will take a look at what's going on in the Windows MIDI dev discord and see if I can glean any useful or important information about the directions being taken.

I do not think that Midi 2.0 in general and Midi 2.0 stack in Windows specially have anything to do with 'legacy' soft synths that try to emulate the behavior of classic Yamaha and Roland synths. Your mentioned new hypothetical soft synths will have nothing to do with SC-55, SC-88, or even SC-8820 and such classic synths if they are based on Midi 2.0.

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Reply 754 of 775, by randomghost

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realnc wrote on 2024-07-14, 09:45:

RIP. Another brick in the abandonware wall.

I'm new here, and from what I read in the rules you're not allowed to post links on software you don't have rights to, right? If that's the case would anyone know of a way to emulate the SC VA (legally/following the rules) or get a similar sound, since I'm assuming you can't just post cracks or stuff. It's very disheartening to see the software go under a subscription, and I wanted to possibly use it or something similar so if someone had any tips that would be great, thanks.

Reply 755 of 775, by EmperorGrieferus

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randomghost wrote on 2024-07-18, 13:03:
realnc wrote on 2024-07-14, 09:45:

RIP. Another brick in the abandonware wall.

I'm new here, and from what I read in the rules you're not allowed to post links on software you don't have rights to, right? If that's the case would anyone know of a way to emulate the SC VA (legally/following the rules) or get a similar sound, since I'm assuming you can't just post cracks or stuff. It's very disheartening to see the software go under a subscription, and I wanted to possibly use it or something similar so if someone had any tips that would be great, thanks.

Nuked-SC55 is a perfect option for you.

Reply 756 of 775, by darry

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EmperorGrieferus wrote on 2024-07-18, 13:12:
randomghost wrote on 2024-07-18, 13:03:
realnc wrote on 2024-07-14, 09:45:

RIP. Another brick in the abandonware wall.

I'm new here, and from what I read in the rules you're not allowed to post links on software you don't have rights to, right? If that's the case would anyone know of a way to emulate the SC VA (legally/following the rules) or get a similar sound, since I'm assuming you can't just post cracks or stuff. It's very disheartening to see the software go under a subscription, and I wanted to possibly use it or something similar so if someone had any tips that would be great, thanks.

Nuked-SC55 is a perfect option for you.

First, it's still possible to buy an SC VA perpetual license (key) until September. Such a licensed (purchased) copy will keep on working "indefinitely" (or as long as Roland's cloud activation infrastructure keeps working, which will hopefully be a while as it used for other Roland subscription and perpetually licensed products).

Second, while Nuked-SC55 is a great thing, there is the issue of it needing ROM images copyrighted by Roland to work. There is arguably no legal way to acquire those (the "arguably" part stems from there possibly being some potentially legal scenarios in some jurisdictions, possibly if one owns Roland hardware containing said ROMs, but none of this has ever been argued/tested in court, AFAIK). I am not a lawyer, by the way.

Reply 757 of 775, by randomghost

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darry wrote on 2024-07-18, 15:39:
EmperorGrieferus wrote on 2024-07-18, 13:12:
randomghost wrote on 2024-07-18, 13:03:

I'm new here, and from what I read in the rules you're not allowed to post links on software you don't have rights to, right? If that's the case would anyone know of a way to emulate the SC VA (legally/following the rules) or get a similar sound, since I'm assuming you can't just post cracks or stuff. It's very disheartening to see the software go under a subscription, and I wanted to possibly use it or something similar so if someone had any tips that would be great, thanks.

Nuked-SC55 is a perfect option for you.

First, it's still possible to buy an SC VA perpetual license (key) until September. Such a licensed (purchased) copy will keep on working "indefinitely" (or as long as Roland's cloud activation infrastructure keeps working, which will hopefully be a while as it used for other Roland subscription and perpetually licensed products).

Second, while Nuked-SC55 is a great thing, there is the issue of it needing ROM images copyrighted by Roland to work. There is arguably no legal way to acquire those (the "arguably" part stems from there possibly being some potentially legal scenarios in some jurisdictions, possibly if one owns Roland hardware containing said ROMs, but none of this has ever been argued/tested in court, AFAIK). I am not a lawyer, by the way.

I see, because I was thinking of using a SC VA for a personal project since the music I’m inspired by also uses such. I don’t think it’ll get huge exposure but I also don’t want cease and desists coming way (though I don’t know how they would know but still.) Would the trial version of SC VA be an option? Or does it not permit usage in like published music? Also I tried checking for the key, but on their website its only option is the cloud subscription. And since it’s only for a small project I’m not sure I exactly want to or can fish up like 70$. Maybe something like recreated from scratch (so it would be legal) would be ideal but I’m not really aware of if something like that exists.

Reply 758 of 775, by darry

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randomghost wrote on 2024-07-21, 01:59:
darry wrote on 2024-07-18, 15:39:
EmperorGrieferus wrote on 2024-07-18, 13:12:

Nuked-SC55 is a perfect option for you.

First, it's still possible to buy an SC VA perpetual license (key) until September. Such a licensed (purchased) copy will keep on working "indefinitely" (or as long as Roland's cloud activation infrastructure keeps working, which will hopefully be a while as it used for other Roland subscription and perpetually licensed products).

Second, while Nuked-SC55 is a great thing, there is the issue of it needing ROM images copyrighted by Roland to work. There is arguably no legal way to acquire those (the "arguably" part stems from there possibly being some potentially legal scenarios in some jurisdictions, possibly if one owns Roland hardware containing said ROMs, but none of this has ever been argued/tested in court, AFAIK). I am not a lawyer, by the way.

I see, because I was thinking of using a SC VA for a personal project since the music I’m inspired by also uses such. I don’t think it’ll get huge exposure but I also don’t want cease and desists coming way (though I don’t know how they would know but still.) Would the trial version of SC VA be an option? Or does it not permit usage in like published music? Also I tried checking for the key, but on their website its only option is the cloud subscription. And since it’s only for a small project I’m not sure I exactly want to or can fish up like 70$. Maybe something like recreated from scratch (so it would be legal) would be ideal but I’m not really aware of if something like that exists.

I bought mine here for 80 CAN$ +taxes .
https://moogaudio.com/products/roland-sound-c … =44148548370621

They are based in Montreal, QC, Canada and, AFAICT, they are currently the only place still selling this (at least that I could find). I suspect they will sell to buyers outside Canada . I bought it online and paid using Google's payment service .

EDIT : There are other third party sellers that seem to have it, though some list it as discontinued .
The demo version has a 10 minutes or so limit AND stops working after 14 days . I doubt it is legally usable for anything beyond testing the product .