A little while ago I bought an HP PC with HP mouse, LG W1952S video, and a case 🏘 ATX, which should be from Antec, without the interior, but with a card player and CD or DVD player, the whole thing cost a quarter of the value, let's say two pizzas.

The HP PC is quite compact, not tiny, but of ideal size to stand on the desk, without tirtying too much, the model should be a 280 G1 MT, as a CPU there is an i3, model 4000 and something, I will be more precise when I have loaded Windows, and run some utilities, like CPU-Z, the video is integrated, but I hope it is not bad, the reason?

I would like to make an Internet PC, because I currently have some, but they are unusable, in the case 🏘 instead maybe I will put the Office PC, with the MB ABIT IP35 and C2D E4600, the only thing I could do in the HP PC, is increase the RAM, adding a second module, equal to the one already present, a Micron of 4GB PC3 12800, in total I would have 8 GB , which for Internet use, would be more than enough.

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-06-14, 00:46:

I got a big lot of about 30cards in the mail from ebay 🤓, I didn't know what all was in it. Many surprises!

Part of a job lot?

Have you figured out what it is yet?

Cyfrifiadur wrote on 2024-06-15, 10:05:

Hiya, I have this KVM model and you are correct. I have 7 PCs connected through it, 2 of which have a serial mouse connection. I […]
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Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-06-15, 02:07:

I'm pretty sure this device allows you to convert a PS/2 mouse to serial, which should be convenient for me. I have a few laptops with a single PS/2 port and I'm not sure if they would support a splitter. Now I can just use the KVM switch and not worry about finding one.

Hiya, I have this KVM model and you are correct. I have 7 PCs connected through it, 2 of which have a serial mouse connection.
I am using a USB-PS/2 mouse and AT keyboard (with adapter) to control them all.
I am also working on a little project to make it switch automatically!

Enjoy... all the cable management 😀

Welcome to the forum! That's good to know. To be honest, cable management is like a dark art to me. I still haven't figured out even the basics.

So, my local flee market supplier had this couple for me today - Philips CM8833 and Commodore 1084S-P1... I don't really need them, but 1084S was in almost mint condition (just needs a new switch and has a few very small dents at the edges). It was missing Amiga cable, but I had a spare one laying around which came with one of my Amigas... The price was adequate so I guess I'm CRT hoarder now...

Posted to the VGAmuseum:

• Avance Logic ALG2564
• Oak OTI-64111
• UMC UM85C418F

For completely pointless reasons I think I want to upgrade the OTI to 4MB.

demiurge wrote on 2024-06-15, 16:16:

Sorry I only shoot photos on the weekend. I made a light box out of 2x4's and wired it up as a lamp myself with an articulating spot light.

I take photos from the tripod with a Pentax X-5 DSLR that is almost retro in its own right.

Very nice light box setup! However, X-5 is not a DSLR but a superzoom bridge camera despite of its appearance is almost identical to a Pentax "K" series DSLR. The lens of X-5 is not detachable.

demiurge wrote on 2024-06-15, 16:16:

Sorry I only shoot photos on the weekend. I made a light box out of 2x4's and wired it up as a lamp myself with an articulating […]
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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-06-13, 02:09:

demiurge wrote on 2024-06-13, 01:49:

Posted the following cards to the VGAmuseum: […]
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Posted the following cards to the VGAmuseum:

• AMD FirePro V3900
• ATI Firepro V5800
• NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
• NVIDIA GeForce GT 430
• Matrox Millennium G200

Awesome photos. Can you describe your camera setup? In the past 5-6 years my collection has... erm... exploded... and I'd love to be able to take such clear and detailed pictures of the stuff I have.

Sorry I only shoot photos on the weekend. I made a light box out of 2x4's and wired it up as a lamp myself with an articulating spot light.

I take photos from the tripod with a Pentax X-5 DSLR that is almost retro in its own right.

The only thing I would do differently is to make sure the LED strips were cool white and not warm light.

😯

As you know i'm also an occasional vgamuseum contributor. And my setup is way way more ghetto style.

A cardbord box with glued led stripe. Put over the card. And a hole to take pictures with my phone on the top...

But your pictures are much better

dormcat wrote on 2024-06-15, 20:42:

demiurge wrote on 2024-06-15, 16:16:

Sorry I only shoot photos on the weekend. I made a light box out of 2x4's and wired it up as a lamp myself with an articulating spot light.

I take photos from the tripod with a Pentax X-5 DSLR that is almost retro in its own right.

Very nice light box setup! However, X-5 is not a DSLR but a superzoom bridge camera despite of its appearance is almost identical to a Pentax "K" series DSLR. The lens of X-5 is not detachable.

Yup I will correct this.

demiurge wrote on 2024-06-15, 16:16:

Sorry I only shoot photos on the weekend. I made a light box out of 2x4's and wired it up as a lamp myself with an articulating […]
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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-06-13, 02:09:

demiurge wrote on 2024-06-13, 01:49:

Posted the following cards to the VGAmuseum: […]
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Posted the following cards to the VGAmuseum:

• AMD FirePro V3900
• ATI Firepro V5800
• NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
• NVIDIA GeForce GT 430
• Matrox Millennium G200

Awesome photos. Can you describe your camera setup? In the past 5-6 years my collection has... erm... exploded... and I'd love to be able to take such clear and detailed pictures of the stuff I have.

Sorry I only shoot photos on the weekend. I made a light box out of 2x4's and wired it up as a lamp myself with an articulating spot light.

I take photos from the tripod with a Pentax X-5 that is almost retro in its own right.

The only thing I would do differently is to make sure the LED strips were cool white and not warm light.

Wow, that's a pretty elaborate setup! I definitely don't have room for something like that, but hopefully I can come up with something suitable eventually. I do wonder what my Galaxy S20 5G would be capable of with good lighting and no camera shake.

I haven't actually bought a digital camera since the Panasonic ZS19 I purchased refurbished back in ~2012-2013. I still have it, but I don't really use it much these days. Not sure which one would take better photos for something like this. The S20 honestly never wowed me and the images look overprocessed.

I need to stop buying boxes of junk at yard sales, got one with 4 random ODD, 2 external HDD, ext drive PSU, 2 floppy, (preceding unpictured) then pics, 4 lame VGA cards, firewire and USB cards, junky RAM, and a sound card that doesn't even have DOS drivers or a SoundBlaster mode....

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-06-15, 23:47:

I need to stop buying boxes of junk at yard sales, got one with 4 random ODD, 2 external HDD, ext drive PSU, 2 floppy, (preceding unpictured) then pics, 4 lame VGA cards, firewire and USB cards, junky RAM, and a sound card that doesn't even have DOS drivers or a SoundBlaster mode....

On the other hand...

Heh yeah that's a Roland RAP-10 AT with excellent general MIDI playback, approximating SC-7 on a card, digital sound in windoze, it is very much the cherry/peach of the bunch. The GFX are a bit yawnworthy, there should be a woman in a Turtleneck on that 2600Pro if you were having trouble recognising it, I've got another, so crossfire may be on the cards, as may SLI with the other 7600GT I've got. The PCI Trio 64V+ is a pretty solid card for DOS compatibility, this one is solid physically, feels a tad heavier than cheapy Trios, by STB for Dell with their BIOS it looks like, 45ns memory so might not be a slouch for 2D either. I was a bit bummed by the other card (AGP), first glance I thought it was another Savage, but it's a Radeon 7000, I may yet like it if I can get it to put out composite at boot. Drives aren't to bad either really, LiteOn DVD and DVDRW which I think are good for ripping, and a modern SATA DVDRW with all the bells and whistles, and a "stealth" 48x Samsung, plain front, so it don't gonna look out of place in a 486 or early pent screaming FOURTY EIGHT, I'M TOO FRIGGIN' FAST, off it's facia. Floppies are internal ODD bay ones for Dell laptops, think one will work in the latitude I got ages back, and the other might got with the parallel cable kit I randomly had. There's also an IR dongle of some sort, zoltrix, not sure whether that's in or out or remote clone or what ATM.

Man... I would be yard sailing every day in the summer if there was stuff like this around here. Instead I basically just see stained old baby clothes, holiday ornaments, scratched B-Movie DVDs and PS3 NFL\NBA\NHL games (also probably scratched).

I've been keeping an eye out for a Roland RAP-10 for a while and they have so far eluded me. And it isn't exactly a practical thing... I have six or seven Roland modules that have the same or better MIDI samples. I think for me I just remember messing with the sound setup in DOS games in the late 90s under Windows 98 and in my totally uneducated mind when I selected "Roland RAP-10" as the music device it always sounded 100 times better, so I figured that device must have been really special. In reality, it was just the GM soft synth on whatever sound card I was using at the time being used rather than some kind of poor FM emulation if I selected a Sound Blaster or other similar device. Still, it created a kind of mystique around the RAP-10 for me. Totally illogical now that I know what I know and have so many alternatives, but I still want one in my collection.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-06-15, 23:58:

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-06-15, 23:47:

I need to stop buying boxes of junk at yard sales, got one with 4 random ODD, 2 external HDD, ext drive PSU, 2 floppy, (preceding unpictured) then pics, 4 lame VGA cards, firewire and USB cards, junky RAM, and a sound card that doesn't even have DOS drivers or a SoundBlaster mode....

On the other hand...

Heh yeah that's a Roland RAP-10 AT with excellent general MIDI playback, approximating SC-7 on a card, digital sound in windoze, it is very much the cherry/peach of the bunch. The GFX are a bit yawnworthy, there should be a woman in a Turtleneck on that 2600Pro if you were having trouble recognising it, I've got another, so crossfire may be on the cards, as may SLI with the other 7600GT I've got. The PCI Trio 64V+ is a pretty solid card for DOS compatibility, this one is solid physically, feels a tad heavier than cheapy Trios, by STB for Dell with their BIOS it looks like, 45ns memory so might not be a slouch for 2D either. I was a bit bummed by the other card (AGP), first glance I thought it was another Savage, but it's a Radeon 7000, I may yet like it if I can get it to put out composite at boot. Drives aren't to bad either really, LiteOn DVD and DVDRW which I think are good for ripping, and a modern SATA DVDRW with all the bells and whistles, and a "stealth" 48x Samsung, plain front, so it don't gonna look out of place in a 486 or early pent screaming FOURTY EIGHT, I'M TOO FRIGGIN' FAST, off it's facia. Floppies are internal ODD bay ones for Dell laptops, think one will work in the latitude I got ages back, and the other might got with the parallel cable kit I randomly had. There's also an IR dongle of some sort, zoltrix, not sure whether that's in or out or remote clone or what ATM.

Man... I would be yard sailing every day in the summer if there was stuff like this around here. Instead I basically just see stained old baby clothes, holiday ornaments, scratched B-Movie DVDs and PS3 NFL\NBA\NHL games (also probably scratched).

I've been keeping an eye out for a Roland RAP-10 for a while and they have so far eluded me. And it isn't exactly a practical thing... I have six or seven Roland modules that have the same or better MIDI samples. I think for me I just remember messing with the sound setup in DOS games in the late 90s under Windows 98 and in my totally uneducated mind when I selected "Roland RAP-10" as the music device it always sounded 100 times better, so I figured that device must have been really special. In reality, it was just the GM soft synth on whatever sound card I was using at the time being used rather than some kind of poor FM emulation if I selected a Sound Blaster or other similar device. Still, it created a kind of mystique around the RAP-10 for me. Totally illogical now that I know what I know and have so many alternatives, but I still want one in my collection.

I had actually been having a bit of a dry spell at yard sales in particular, funny thing is, I went to this specific one because it said it had a load of music junk. I was hoping for some form of midi module to hook up to the Voyetra OP-4001 MPU401 card I got just over a year ago. No modules... so the box of computer junk was my consolation prize and I didn't even realise it had the RAP-10 in it until I got it home 🤣 I also got another "complete opposite" of a module while I was there, a controller to screw around with. Midiman Oxygen8, wasn't sure if that belonged in the retro hardware thread. Anyhoo, nice compact thing, there's a hope in hell I could have it hooked into a setup somewhere fairly permanently for noodling around on the spur of the moment, and maybe put it in a desktop keyboard hutch or slider out of the way. But glad to get the RAP-10 to try.

... ...

Weirdest set of 128MB SDRAM I've ever seen in that bag, 16 tiny chips all crammed on one side... IDK whether I'd put money on it working in a BX. The bag of 30 pin, 8 modules, has both ends, some ultra conservative ought to work with everything no matter how picky 9 chip 80ns, and some Goldstar 60ns for speeeeed, all 1MBs, thought I got some 4s at first, but I can't read or something.

So much drooling over this thread that I just had to contribute...

I decided to gamble.

$775 on vintage computing in 7 days scored me the following:

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#1.

$100 Marketplace ad. No idea what it was, given only crappy pics from behind. There wasn't even certainty how many computers there were, just "old computers and keyboard". Could however see the connectors were too old to be post-2000 (no USB). Decided to go for it.

Turned out as 4x Fujitsu-ICL Pentium Pro's (180-200MHz), a Fujitsu-Siemens Athlon system with Win98 stickers, and an Asus XP mini computer. Also a bunch of CRT's and a Casio WK-1200 keyboard. These were all from an old driving school, defunct since 20 years. The family seriously considered throwing it all away due to no interest for the ad.

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#2.

$200 Marketplace ad. The two Librettos caught my attention. Already had two Libretto 100's in parts (with extra RAM and such) and always wanted an older one.

Indeed a Libretto 50 and unfortunately another 100, now have three of the latter (had hoped for a 110CT).

Drive was 520 miles back and forth, so took a full day, but still felt worth it. Last week a Libretto 50 went on our national "eBay" (Tradera) for $199.

Also got some old beepers and telephones. Will keep computers and Hotline (coolest useless item of all time!) and sell off the rest.

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#3.

$195 PowerColor V2 12MB off Tradera

This was no "gamble" at all, just an ordinary ad. But I'm proud and wanna share 😁! For 13 years I've lusted for a Voodoo again. Last one was also a PowerColor, CiB, which I got for free. I was so dumb I sold it.

Nevertheless. Weirdly performed hugely better than the 8MB CT6670 previously in the IBM 6862 (PIII-750). Is PowerColor's card better?

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#4.

$280 Marketplace ad of dual PII, V2 SLi 12MB setup:

This was even further away. 745 miles back and forth! The old sleeper Saab bravely crossed through rain and flies, but not even 300hp got it done in less than 16 hours. Petrol included though, I still only paid for the two V2 cards.

Came also with around 100 original CD/DVD games, and a lot of extras like CPU's, GFX'es, additional new PSU etc. Some games are still unopened.

Possibly my new main retro rig due to its fantastic motherboard (ASUS P2B-D 1.06)

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Hell of some enjoyable holidays, but with 59 computers it might soon be time to put in reverse...

Ahrle wrote on 2024-06-16, 02:06:

So much drooling over this thread that I just had to contribute... […]
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So much drooling over this thread that I just had to contribute...

I decided to gamble.

$775 on vintage computing in 7 days scored me the following:

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#1.

$100 Marketplace ad. No idea what it was, given only crappy pics from behind. There wasn't even certainty how many computers there were, just "old computers and keyboard". Could however see the connectors were too old to be post-2000 (no USB). Decided to go for it.

20240610_012955.jpg

Turned out as 4x Fujitsu-ICL Pentium Pro's (180-200MHz), a Fujitsu-Siemens Athlon system with Win98 stickers, and an Asus XP mini computer. Also a bunch of CRT's and a Casio WK-1200 keyboard. These were all from an old driving school, defunct since 20 years. The family seriously considered throwing it all away due to no interest for the ad.

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#2.

$200 Marketplace ad. The two Librettos caught my attention. Already had two Libretto 100's in parts (with extra RAM and such) and always wanted an older one.

20240610_022010 - kopia.jpg

Indeed a Libretto 50 and unfortunately another 100, now have three of the latter (had hoped for a 110CT).

Drive was 520 miles back and forth, so took a full day, but still felt worth it. Last week a Libretto 50 went on our national "eBay" (Tradera) for $199.

Also got some old beepers and telephones. Will keep computers and Hotline (coolest useless item of all time!) and sell off the rest.

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#3.

$195 PowerColor V2 12MB off Tradera

20240614_191030.jpg

This was no "gamble" at all, just an ordinary ad. But I'm proud and wanna share 😁! For 13 years I've lusted for a Voodoo again. Last one was also a PowerColor, CiB, which I got for free. I was so dumb I sold it.

Nevertheless. Weirdly performed hugely better than the 8MB CT6670 previously in the IBM 6862 (PIII-750). Is PowerColor's card better?

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#4.

$280 Marketplace ad of dual PII, V2 SLi 12MB setup:

20240615_212813 - kopia.jpg

This was even further away. 745 miles back and forth! The old sleeper Saab bravely crossed through rain and flies, but not even 300hp got it done in less than 16 hours. Petrol included though, I still only paid for the two V2 cards.

Came also with around 100 original CD/DVD games, and a lot of extras like CPU's, GFX'es, additional new PSU etc. Some games are still unopened.

Possibly my new main retro rig due to its fantastic motherboard (ASUS P2B-D 1.06)

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Hell of some enjoyable holidays, but with 59 computers it might soon be time to put in reverse...

The PII P2b-D is a very nice setup, totally worth making your main rig, there will be a few here that will be happy to see the silly amount of Pentium Pros you scored in the hands of a collector they are worth cleaning up and selling off to other collectors. Pentium Pros sadly usually get sent to gold collectors for scrapping due to the high amount of gold in the CPUs so fingers crossed they all still work !

Nothing to say about the V2's we all know they are stupidly over priced currently due to the "3DFX" tax but its nice to see them with someone who will appreciate and actually use them and not shove them into their collection to never be used.

745 miles .. that's ~1200Kms or the distance from Adelaide to Canberra that's one hell of a drive, worth it for that system however ! bet the fuel cost added another 150 - 200 bucks. Had to look up Tradera and considering the country .. hope it didnt involve too many mountains to make that trip.

Ahrle wrote on 2024-06-16, 02:06:

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#1.

$100 Marketplace ad. No idea what it was, given only crappy pics from behind. There wasn't even certainty how many computers there were, just "old computers and keyboard". Could however see the connectors were too old to be post-2000 (no USB). Decided to go for it.

20240610_012955.jpg

Turned out as 4x Fujitsu-ICL Pentium Pro's (180-200MHz), a Fujitsu-Siemens Athlon system with Win98 stickers, and an Asus XP mini computer. Also a bunch of CRT's and a Casio WK-1200 keyboard. These were all from an old driving school, defunct since 20 years. The family seriously considered throwing it all away due to no interest for the ad.

OMG I am very envious of those Fujitsu Pentium Pro machines. I would love to get my hands on a decent Pentium Pro machine, I've had no luck finding anything that isn't silly expensive.

Great score overall btw, enjoy!

pete8475 wrote on 2024-06-16, 04:55:

Ahrle wrote on 2024-06-16, 02:06:

#1. […]
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#1.

$100 Marketplace ad. No idea what it was, given only crappy pics from behind. There wasn't even certainty how many computers there were, just "old computers and keyboard". Could however see the connectors were too old to be post-2000 (no USB). Decided to go for it.

20240610_012955.jpg

Turned out as 4x Fujitsu-ICL Pentium Pro's (180-200MHz), a Fujitsu-Siemens Athlon system with Win98 stickers, and an Asus XP mini computer. Also a bunch of CRT's and a Casio WK-1200 keyboard. These were all from an old driving school, defunct since 20 years. The family seriously considered throwing it all away due to no interest for the ad.

OMG I am very envious of those Fujitsu Pentium Pro machines. I would love to get my hands on a decent Pentium Pro machine, I've had no luck finding anything that isn't silly expensive.

Great score overall btw, enjoy!

The Dell Optiplex GXPRO and Dimension XPS fly under the radar quite often.

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-06-16, 05:09:

pete8475 wrote on 2024-06-16, 04:55:

Ahrle wrote on 2024-06-16, 02:06:

#1. […]
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#1.

$100 Marketplace ad. No idea what it was, given only crappy pics from behind. There wasn't even certainty how many computers there were, just "old computers and keyboard". Could however see the connectors were too old to be post-2000 (no USB). Decided to go for it.

20240610_012955.jpg

Turned out as 4x Fujitsu-ICL Pentium Pro's (180-200MHz), a Fujitsu-Siemens Athlon system with Win98 stickers, and an Asus XP mini computer. Also a bunch of CRT's and a Casio WK-1200 keyboard. These were all from an old driving school, defunct since 20 years. The family seriously considered throwing it all away due to no interest for the ad.

OMG I am very envious of those Fujitsu Pentium Pro machines. I would love to get my hands on a decent Pentium Pro machine, I've had no luck finding anything that isn't silly expensive.

Great score overall btw, enjoy!

The Dell Optiplex GXPRO and Dimension XPS fly under the radar quite often.

I have a NEC Pentium Pro machine that looks very similar to these Fujitsu machines, makes me wonder if NEC licensed them from Fujitsu or the other way around.

HanJammer wrote on 2024-06-15, 20:00:

So, my local flee market supplier had this couple for me today - Philips CM8833 and Commodore 1084S-P1... [...]

excellent finds, 1084s are awesome for 15khz stuff

Got a PCChips M537 v3.1 w/ a Cyrix 6x86 PR150.

Hey, it could've been worse and be an Utron chipset. At least this one's a VIA Apollo VP.

I bought a Gigabyte GA-586STX2 mainboard, P233mmx with cooler, an ATX PSU with -5V line, an ATI charger 3D pci, a Soundblaster Live 5.1 (SB0060), 64 MB ram PC100, working 3.5 black floppy drive, NIC, and a small currently available black ATX case. Got it for double digit $. I guess that is OK.