Pierre32 wrote on 2024-07-09, 02:50:

100% AI

Notepad++ 4.9.2 works on Windows 98

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That reply is a suspiciously pointless rephrasing, not guaranteed to be an AI, IMHO. A sampling of 1 message is not that big.

darry wrote on 2024-07-09, 04:05:

That reply is a suspiciously pointless rephrasing, not guaranteed to be an AI, IMHO. A sampling of 1 message is not that big.

Defs AI, it reads like the AI generated meeting notes at work. It's quite useful in that context because no-one wants to have to relive the pain by watching the recording, but the AI of course includes a disclaimer "Generated by AI. Make sure to check for accuracy."

It's super clever but fundamentally dumb - much like humanity really.

This would be AI too.

vvbee wrote on 2024-07-09, 05:15:

This would be AI too.

Those don't make any sense to me . It may be AI or might be some kind of encoded conversation.

EDIT: The Notepad ++ 6.1.2 installer explicitly says that Windows 98 is not supported, so "everyone" saying it works is not quite believable.
Someone saying they have been trying for weeks to get that specific version to work reads like perseveration to me, if it is true, or, as you suggest an AI posted it.

For the record, the latest ANSI build (that I know of) that actually start under Windows 98 is in npp.6.0.bin.zip .
The latest build (ANSI) with working open and save dialogues is in npp.5.8.2.bin.zip (I can confirm that personally), as mentioned here [1].

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Re: Software for Windows 98SE

Namrok wrote on 2024-07-05, 21:59:

Man, I can't even wrap my mind around why someone would send AI over here. To what end?

maybe in order to...

swaaye wrote on 2024-07-05, 18:09:

I wonder what a model trained on all VOGONS content would be like.... The insanity. 😀

maybe it isn't "someone" sending an LLM here, maybe they just crawl around the net now

there are some hints that an llm is operating - they tend to be verbose and repetitive, occasionally getting facts wrong without seeming to understand the implication.

i suspect in many cases we might suspect llm where actually we have a person who perhaps isn't confident in writing using one to create posts, or even more likely - just reads a little like one!

we are entering into a period where we cannot tell person from llm easily anymore.

theres a risk, if llms can carried away that forums of many kinds (inc social media) just become flooded to the point where reading them is no longer fruitful, eg

"I have built a vintage 587 with overdrive and sli voodoo tnt card to play grand theft half life"
"that is great, it is such fun to play older games at times"
"yes it is, i hope you are enjoying them"

etc

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Namrok wrote on 2024-07-05, 21:59:

Man, I can't even wrap my mind around why someone would send AI over here. To what end?

maybe in order to...

swaaye wrote on 2024-07-05, 18:09:

I wonder what a model trained on all VOGONS content would be like.... The insanity. 😀

maybe it isn't "someone" sending an LLM here, maybe they just crawl around the net now

there are some hints that an llm is operating - they tend to be verbose and repetitive, occasionally getting facts wrong without seeming to understand the implication.

i suspect in many cases we might suspect llm where actually we have a person who perhaps isn't confident in writing using one to create posts, or even more likely - just reads a little like one!

we are entering into a period where we cannot tell person from llm easily anymore.

theres a risk, if llms can carried away that forums of many kinds (inc social media) just become flooded to the point where reading them is no longer fruitful, eg

"I have built a vintage 587 with overdrive and sli voodoo tnt card to play grand theft half life"
"that is great, it is such fun to play older games at times"
"yes it is, i hope you are enjoying them"

etc

We've arguably had LLM AI active on social media for over 15 years, except that usually meant (L)ow (L)evel (M)oron (A)bsolute (I)diot. Dysfunctional AI is basically that with a touch of chaotically nonsensical randomness (not actually random, though, effectively from a narrowly scoped entropy pool of a data set) infused into it .

I'd still be hesitant to jump straight towards accusing users of being LLMs. A lot of behavior that might look like an LLM seems to just be how people are now. Their brains are so fried from doom scrolling, it's like they have no reading comprehension anymore. People just talk past each other in ways that are baffling and confusing. I see it happen in real life with real people more now than I ever have. Online it's even worse, and once again, with people I've known for 10-20 years. Sometimes we even joke that one of us or the other is acting like an LLM. Then I usually feel filthy and spend an evening reading a book instead of being terminally online.

darry wrote on 2024-07-09, 02:58:

Wait until they train AI models to simulate poor English. It will probably be tunable and localisable ( $nationality person writing in $level English).

I'm now really wondering how that would possibly look like. 🤔
Will it go all "gangsta" style slang? Texan English idioms ? Southern accent ? French accent ?

The latter two of them wouldn't be that bad, maybe.
Reminds me of the French dude in the iRabbit clip. ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxxAwDHgQhE

OK, enough stereotypes for now.😅
Maybe it would be using kind of another English as a template, also?

Edit: @Namrok Good point. It's also worth mentioning that "syntax checking" is something that programming languages feature for decades.
So an advanced LLM might be very good at writing proper grammar.
Better than native speakers, maybe, who write according to their gut feelings.

If you wanna see why I call it Artificial Stupidity, ask ChatGPT to count the occurrence of each letter in the alphabet.

In the past 3-4 months generally available general AI models have learnt to translate low resource languages with native speakers numbering in the hundreds. Non-corporate English isn't much of a challenge.

This one has got to be AI, right?
Post 1277611

Fresh user with only 9 posts.
Summarizes the gist of OP's long post, then just rephrases the last sentence. Contributes absolutely nothing new.
That's weird!

He's got other weird replies, this one goes off topic, still about OPL3 but apparently in the wrong thread:
Post 1277613

And this one again just rephrases the previous user's post!
Post 1277408

Edit: looks like the mods took action!
I'll include the evidence for posterity so people can see what AI posts may look like.

Sounds about right.

My case's initial suspect keeps making new contributions too. Other users have become weary of him as well.. he keeps starting new threads with the same problem but different hardware.

wbahnassi wrote on 2024-07-17, 02:29:

Sounds about right.

My case's initial suspect keeps making new contributions too. Other users have become weary of him as well.. he keeps starting new threads with the same problem but different hardware.

The AI presence is undeniable, but in that guy's case, I think we're dealing with a whole other form of intelligence.

But the question is: why? 🤷‍♂️
This place is very obscure by comparison, very niche in the eyes of mainstream.
Why do have certain people or groups an interest to have their bots participating here?

wbahnassi wrote on 2024-07-17, 02:29:

Sounds about right.

My case's initial suspect keeps making new contributions too. Other users have become weary of him as well.. he keeps starting new threads with the same problem but different hardware.

That guy is real IMO. You can even see him in the reflection 😁

There is something very weird going on with new threads and posts lately, it's as if a different kind of people suddenly actively joined the forum. Did any famous youtuber or similar recommend the forum? I can't think of anything else as the change is very sudden.

konc wrote on 2024-07-17, 12:03:

There is something very weird going on with new threads and posts lately, it's as if a different kind of people suddenly actively joined the forum. Did any famous youtuber or similar recommend the forum? I can't think of anything else as the change is very sudden.

I often bring up this forum during my Twitch livestreams or mention this forum in several friends livestreams but I'm not particularly "famous" nor would I ever want to be.

DracoNihil wrote on 2024-07-17, 14:23:

konc wrote on 2024-07-17, 12:03:

There is something very weird going on with new threads and posts lately, it's as if a different kind of people suddenly actively joined the forum. Did any famous youtuber or similar recommend the forum? I can't think of anything else as the change is very sudden.

I often bring up this forum during my Twitch livestreams or mention this forum in several friends livestreams but I'm not particularly "famous" nor would I ever want to be.

Yeah I meant someone super famous who can have a very noticeable impact immediately.

Also completely unrelated, but being Greek I find your avatar and signature... interesting!

I don't think any of the Twitch DOS streamers I watch sometimes have anything to do with the AI influx here.

re: "why?!!??????????" if you're a veteran of computers you should already be aware of the cat & mouse game of the spambot industry. AI slop is the new cloak. The payload comes delayed.

leileilol wrote on 2024-07-17, 15:25:

I don't think any of the Twitch DOS streamers I watch sometimes have anything to do with the AI influx here.

Assuming it is AI, then yes. But in my opinion it's just a different type of people (another generation? with different background?) who communicates in a way I find a bit strange.