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First post, by James_Richards

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I am basically looking for small little fun "toys" for any kind of application. For inspiration or replication in batch files or something.
This started because I was trying to replicate something I had setup on an old computer years ago. When MS-DOS completed it's boot up, it would echo something like the following;

Good morning, Master. The time is 12:32, Wednesday, April 14th 1993.
C:\>_

I then had it set to load Eliza and I actually chatted with it. I did it often enough over a couple years that it actually started holding fairly descent descent conversational responses, it would even ask me how I was doing and add something about "...it has been a few days since we last talked..."
Anyway, I am looking to replicate the greeting at least, but I have forgotten so much of my knowledge on batch commands that when googling now, all help and advice comes from the newer CMD's built into Windows 98, XP or newer, which will of course not work.
Any advice? sites to link to?
I was also looking to colorize the DIR output, but can't seem to find anything helpful beyond 4DOS. I have no problem with 4DOS, I just want to trey and keep a VERY low memory foot print. I am already sitting at 623K conv memory free again, another reason to find low cost replacements and addons. I have followed the MDGx memory guide but still can't get anything close to the 640K free he claims.

...this could be fun...

Reply 1 of 2, by Ryccardo

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James_Richards wrote on 2024-07-18, 07:02:

I am basically looking for small little fun "toys" for any kind of application

Here in Italy we called them Inutilities 😀
No idea about ones for DOS, though - too old for my times 😀

James_Richards wrote on 2024-07-18, 07:02:

all help and advice comes from the newer CMD's built into Windows 98, XP or newer, which will of course not work.
Any advice? sites to link to?

I liked reading DOS 6 (and Qbasic)'s help, both included in the oldmsdos folder on Win9x CDs, a pleasure to read and actually educative; then there was computerhope.com (which still exists with the original content, even though it's gone through a crap "modern" redesign) and Axcel216's site (as good as ever!)

James_Richards wrote on 2024-07-18, 07:02:

I was also looking to colorize the DIR output […] keep a VERY low memory foot print.

How about an external command? If that's fine for you, try GNU's ls → https://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/coreutils.htm - though I doubt they work in pure DOS…

Reply 2 of 2, by James_Richards

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Ryccardo wrote:

Here in Italy we called them Inutilities 😀
No idea about ones for DOS, though - too old for my times 😀

Ha!

Ryccardo wrote:

I liked reading DOS 6 (and Qbasic)'s help, both included in the oldmsdos folder on Win9x CDs, a pleasure to read and actually educative; then there was computerhope.com (which still exists with the original content, even though it's gone through a crap "modern" redesign) and Axcel216's site (as good as ever!)

I was thinking I might end up revisiting my QBasic experience, I am sure I could write something small enough and use one of the open/free compilers to make is small and efficient... after I relearn THAT. It has been so long since I've been more involved with MS-DOS outside of gaming.

Ryccardo wrote:

How about an external command? If that's fine for you, try GNU's ls → https://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/coreutils.htm - though I doubt they work in pure DOS…

I think I saw something about it in my searches ...but skipped over it for a reason that seemed good at the time. I'll see if I can track it down again. is it the one that actually has you issue the 'ls' command and not 'dir'? I've gotten uised to using bash and I have already caught myself trying to use those commands in DOS a few times 🤣 "Wait...that command worked yesterday... why is it not working now?"
"Oh yeah... I'm on my DOS machine, not linux" *facepalm*

...this could be fun...