Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-08-03, 03:15:

Man, that stinks. Sorry to hear that. […]
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Wes1262 wrote on 2024-08-03, 03:07:

So the seller cancelled the sale and refunded me. Probably realized he could've sold the 939 dual vsta for more. I imagine it will reappear soon at a higher price. Ripperonies

Man, that stinks. Sorry to hear that.

Though if you haven't talked to the seller, you may want to contact him about it. Sometimes sellers will start packing something up, notice a flaw, then just cancel an order rather than deal with returns or bad feedback. A lot of people are just awful at communication these days and will say nothing unless you contact them.

If it has bad caps or something it's still worth grabbing at a discount if they're willing to sell it.

Good idea, I will try that. Thanks!

cyclone3d wrote on 2024-08-04, 02:19:

I might have a piece like that laying around if I didn't already get rid of it.

Edit: Not seeing it where I thought it might be. I'll keep an eye out for it and let you know if I find it.

However, the card hold down for that type of case is really just a long L bracket. See those two screw holes? The L bracket is held in place by two screws so it is super easy to make a replacement out of a thin piece of metal. Could also use wood or a simple 3D print.

Thanks for checking.

My current plan is to head back to thrift store and see if the bracket is there. It might have fallen off or been removed and is still lying a shelf (fingers crossed).

Alternatively, I'll look at fabricating another solution.

Shponglefan wrote on 2024-08-04, 01:58:

Thank you, I do like the line work on it as well. Reminiscent of earlier 90s cases. :) […]
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zuldan wrote on 2024-08-04, 00:53:

Shponglefan wrote on 2024-08-04, 00:38:

Another thrift store find today.

Hadn't come across a case quite like this before. I do like early 2000s beige boxes, so grabbed this. Mostly wanted it for the pair of beige DVD drives.

Nothing too fancy inside, just a basic AMD Sempron system. Came with an ATI All-in-Wonder 9600 XT. Unfortunately since it requires a proprietary adapter, which I don't have, I can't test it to see if it works.

I actually like the lines on that case. Also seems to be in very good condition. Nice find

Thank you, I do like the line work on it as well. Reminiscent of earlier 90s cases. 😀

Unfortunately when taking it apart, it looks like there is a piece of the case missing. It seems designed for possibly screwless card insertion. There appears to be a bracket or cover that should go over above the rear slots, but that piece was missing.

I'll have to either try to find a replacement piece, or figure out some other solution to secure cards in this case.

I took a look at one of my cases which seemed to have identical metalwork, however mine does not clip, it's just a cover which has wandered off, and mine is drilled and tapped for screws to hold the cards. Similar styles of clip are seen on Thinkcenters and Apex cases if you're trying to clue into how the mechanics go.

Somewhere in this thread or the activity thread we discussed the funky pinouts for ATI AIW 9600 cards.

Had my eye on the left PC someone had listed a while for £10. Was in his area yesterday so decided to go get it on the way back - no specs listed but thought it might be Socket 370 from the pics provided. Went to his garage to get it where I noticed the right one as well which he didn't have listed - asked if he was selling that too. He wanted more for that cause it came with RAM and 2 HDDs, managed to snag both for £25.

Left turned out not to be S370 at all. Socket A, QDI K7V8366/KD7 (KuDoZ 7) with an Athlon XP 1700+ and no RAM/HDD

Right was S478, GA-8SIMLH (hell yeah gimme that trashy SiS chipset), Pentium 4 2.0, 2GB RAM, two Seagate U10 20GB HDDs

giantenemycat wrote on 2024-08-04, 15:55:

Left turned out not to be S370 at all. Socket A, QDI K7V8366/KD7 (KuDoZ 7) with an Athlon XP 1700+ and no RAM/HDD

Right was S478, GA-8SIMLH (hell yeah gimme that trashy SiS chipset), Pentium 4 2.0, 2GB RAM, two Seagate U10 20GB HDDs

Nice catch! Even with that SiS chipset, the latter system could be a nice Win9x platform, unless that P4-2G was a Willamette instead of Northwood......

giantenemycat wrote on 2024-08-04, 15:55:

Had my eye on the left PC someone had listed a while for £10. Was in his area yesterday so decided to go get it on the way back […]
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Had my eye on the left PC someone had listed a while for £10. Was in his area yesterday so decided to go get it on the way back - no specs listed but thought it might be Socket 370 from the pics provided. Went to his garage to get it where I noticed the right one as well which he didn't have listed - asked if he was selling that too. He wanted more for that cause it came with RAM and 2 HDDs, managed to snag both for £25.

Left turned out not to be S370 at all. Socket A, QDI K7V8366/KD7 (KuDoZ 7) with an Athlon XP 1700+ and no RAM/HDD

Right was S478, GA-8SIMLH (hell yeah gimme that trashy SiS chipset), Pentium 4 2.0, 2GB RAM, two Seagate U10 20GB HDDs

Ahh, case details 😀 Glad it makes it clear that it is not from the era of William the Conqueror, clarifying that the millennium is 2000.

progman.exe wrote on 2024-08-04, 17:20:

giantenemycat wrote on 2024-08-04, 15:55:

Had my eye on the left PC someone had listed a while for £10. Was in his area yesterday so decided to go get it on the way back […]
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Had my eye on the left PC someone had listed a while for £10. Was in his area yesterday so decided to go get it on the way back - no specs listed but thought it might be Socket 370 from the pics provided. Went to his garage to get it where I noticed the right one as well which he didn't have listed - asked if he was selling that too. He wanted more for that cause it came with RAM and 2 HDDs, managed to snag both for £25.

Left turned out not to be S370 at all. Socket A, QDI K7V8366/KD7 (KuDoZ 7) with an Athlon XP 1700+ and no RAM/HDD

Right was S478, GA-8SIMLH (hell yeah gimme that trashy SiS chipset), Pentium 4 2.0, 2GB RAM, two Seagate U10 20GB HDDs

Ahh, case details 😀 Glad it makes it clear that it is not from the era of William the Conqueror, clarifying that the millennium is 2000.

Yah, imagine making that mistake and then discovering the Medieval case was useless because data rated rawhide straps for holding the spinning stone rock drives in place just aren't available these days.

dormcat wrote on 2024-08-04, 17:16:

giantenemycat wrote on 2024-08-04, 15:55:

Left turned out not to be S370 at all. Socket A, QDI K7V8366/KD7 (KuDoZ 7) with an Athlon XP 1700+ and no RAM/HDD

Right was S478, GA-8SIMLH (hell yeah gimme that trashy SiS chipset), Pentium 4 2.0, 2GB RAM, two Seagate U10 20GB HDDs

Nice catch! Even with that SiS chipset, the latter system could be a nice Win9x platform, unless that P4-2G was a Willamette instead of Northwood......

It is a Northwood. Shame on me, I forgot to mention the requisite cockroach video cards they had. 9200 SE and MX 440 SE. The 9200 SE was even so powerful it stopped the PC from booting, and had to be contained within the bin.

Today I gave 100 caps for these stuff

giantenemycat wrote on 2024-08-04, 17:50:

It is a Northwood. Shame on me, I forgot to mention the requisite cockroach video cards they had. 9200 SE and MX 440 SE. The 9200 SE was even so powerful it stopped the PC from booting, and had to be contained within the bin.

At least those "cockroach cards" could run some early Win9x 3D games as well as some DOS ones. Still remember my experience playing Ultima IX: Ascension with the very first generation of TNT (STB Velocity 4400). Boy it was not pleasant. 😅

Calombuti wrote on 2024-08-04, 20:17:

Today I gave 100 caps for these stuff

So that was you I saw in Junktown? 😉

nd22 wrote on 2024-08-01, 08:57:

Very nice find! Those Guru panels are quite rare! And it's in full working order!

She arrived today! The case and all components are in excellent condition. Caps on the motherboard look really good. Ran a thermal camera over the motherboard and can't see any heat spots. Very very happy.

Case: Cooler Master Praetorian (PAC-T01) - https://archive.techarp.com/showarticlef4fd.html?artno=251
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 4400+ (939)
RAM: 2GB DDR400
Motherboard: ABit Fatal1ty AN8 - https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/mainboard/1315 … erboard/?page=4
Video: GeForce 98o0 GTX (swapping out with an ATI X850 XT PE for dual XP/98 boot)
Audio: Creative Sound Blaster Live CT4870 (swapping out with an Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS for dual XP/98 boot)
ATX Power: 680watt

and the Guru Panel is working perfectly!

Very nice system, big like! I also got a Fatality AN8 SLI however for socket 939 I choose to use the regular ABit AN8 SLI board because the noise done by the 2 40mm fans is very annoying. This machine should - with the 9800GTX - play any game up to 2005 at max settings with no problems whatsoever.
I took me ages to find a working guru panel; it is very useful for system monitoring.

dormcat wrote on 2024-08-04, 20:38:

At least those "cockroach cards" could run some early Win9x 3D games as well as some DOS ones. Still remember my experience play […]
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giantenemycat wrote on 2024-08-04, 17:50:

It is a Northwood. Shame on me, I forgot to mention the requisite cockroach video cards they had. 9200 SE and MX 440 SE. The 9200 SE was even so powerful it stopped the PC from booting, and had to be contained within the bin.

At least those "cockroach cards" could run some early Win9x 3D games as well as some DOS ones. Still remember my experience playing Ultima IX: Ascension with the very first generation of TNT (STB Velocity 4400). Boy it was not pleasant. 😅

Calombuti wrote on 2024-08-04, 20:17:

Today I gave 100 caps for these stuff

So that was you I saw in Junktown? 😉

I live here. The monitor has no backlight, the wheel and pedals need repair, but it's still a good deal.

zuldan wrote on 2024-08-05, 07:02:

nd22 wrote on 2024-08-01, 08:57:

Very nice find! Those Guru panels are quite rare! And it's in full working order!

She arrived today! The case and all components are in excellent condition. Caps on the motherboard look really good. Ran a thermal camera over the motherboard and can't see any heat spots. Very very happy.

That panel is so cool.

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-08-04, 00:21:

Interestingly enough It never even dawned on me the retention socket is yellow and not black. I have no memory of ever swapping or breaking the retention clip, the yellow is its natural color in my mind . Maybe I got a freak?? But it's been so many years too.

I only know because i owned that exact same board back in the day it was new and mine indeed had a black retention bracket. I upgraded it not long after to a NEO 4 Platinum to go to PCI-E and retain my cpu (again black retention bracket). After that i went to a DFI lanparty SLI-DR (because casemodding and actual lanparties 😁 ) so my 3500+ was used on 3 different boards before finally going to S775.

There have been several board brands though that used those yellow lotes retention brackets .. i don't think it was exclusive to DFI. So yours could perhaps be from a small batch with yellow brackets?

Well, this probably wasn't my most practical purchase of 2024, but... eh... the price for the lot (marked as a lot of "dead" GPUs) was really not that bad. The newer cards and the Quadro are a nice bonus, but it's probably obvious why I bothered with these. This may be the only opportunity I get to add this beast to my GPU collection, whether it works or not. It is probably dead, and probably also trashed from poor storage... but it was never exactly a great product to begin with. 😁

Cards of note:
Geforce 7900GX2(!)
XFX Radeon HD 6870 Double-D
Quadro FX 4600 (basically an 8800GTS with a 384bit wide memory bus)
MSI GTX 1060 3GB (or possibly 1050 Ti)
XFX R9 390X
Sapphire R9 390X

Not expecting any of them to work, but if any do it will be pretty cool.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-08-05, 18:21:

Well, this probably wasn't my most practical purchase of 2024, but... eh... the price for the lot (marked as a lot of "dead" GPU […]
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Well, this probably wasn't my most practical purchase of 2024, but... eh... the price for the lot (marked as a lot of "dead" GPUs) was really not that bad. The newer cards and the Quadro are a nice bonus, but it's probably obvious why I bothered with these. This may be the only opportunity I get to add this beast to my GPU collection, whether it works or not. It is probably dead, and probably also trashed from poor storage... but it was never exactly a great product to begin with. 😁

Cards of note:
Geforce 7900GX2(!)
XFX Radeon HD 6870 Double-D
Quadro FX 4600 (basically an 8800GTS with a 384bit wide memory bus)
MSI GTX 1060 3GB (or possibly 1050 Ti)
XFX R9 390X
Sapphire R9 390X

Not expecting any of them to work, but if any do it will be pretty cool.

Very cool buy!! Are you sure it's not a Quadro FX4500 X2 instead of a GeForce 7900GX2? Can't tell just from that pic.

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-08-05, 18:42:

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-08-05, 18:21:

Well, this probably wasn't my most practical purchase of 2024, but... eh... the price for the lot (marked as a lot of "dead" GPU […]
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Well, this probably wasn't my most practical purchase of 2024, but... eh... the price for the lot (marked as a lot of "dead" GPUs) was really not that bad. The newer cards and the Quadro are a nice bonus, but it's probably obvious why I bothered with these. This may be the only opportunity I get to add this beast to my GPU collection, whether it works or not. It is probably dead, and probably also trashed from poor storage... but it was never exactly a great product to begin with. 😁

Cards of note:
Geforce 7900GX2(!)
XFX Radeon HD 6870 Double-D
Quadro FX 4600 (basically an 8800GTS with a 384bit wide memory bus)
MSI GTX 1060 3GB (or possibly 1050 Ti)
XFX R9 390X
Sapphire R9 390X

Not expecting any of them to work, but if any do it will be pretty cool.

Very cool buy!! Are you sure it's not a Quadro FX4500 X2 instead of a GeForce 7900GX2? Can't tell just from that pic.

Oh, good call! I honestly had never even thought about the Quadro version of the 7900GX2... Upon closer inspection, I think it's the Quadro since it appears to have 4 DVI outputs! It is effectively the same card, with identical specs. So... double the outputs with no downsides? Why not! 😁

zuldan wrote on 2024-08-05, 07:02:

She arrived today! The case and all components are in excellent condition. Caps on the motherboard look really good. Ran a therm […]
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She arrived today! The case and all components are in excellent condition. Caps on the motherboard look really good. Ran a thermal camera over the motherboard and can't see any heat spots. Very very happy.

Case: Cooler Master Praetorian (PAC-T01) - https://archive.techarp.com/showarticlef4fd.html?artno=251
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 4400+ (939)
RAM: 2GB DDR400
Motherboard: ABit Fatal1ty AN8 - https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/mainboard/1315 … erboard/?page=4
Video: GeForce 98o0 GTX (swapping out with an ATI X850 XT PE for dual XP/98 boot)
Audio: Creative Sound Blaster Live CT4870 (swapping out with an Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS for dual XP/98 boot)
ATX Power: 680watt

and the Guru Panel is working perfectly!

That looks awesome! I didn't know that Abit board looked so cool with those leds. Was ahead of it's time (lighting wise) it seems! Perhaps you can stuff a Fatality X-FI in there with the front panel ... though it may look kinda "old" with the knobs etc. But the actual card does have a red led 😁

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-08-05, 18:51:

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-08-05, 18:42:

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-08-05, 18:21:

Well, this probably wasn't my most practical purchase of 2024, but... eh... the price for the lot (marked as a lot of "dead" GPU […]
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Well, this probably wasn't my most practical purchase of 2024, but... eh... the price for the lot (marked as a lot of "dead" GPUs) was really not that bad. The newer cards and the Quadro are a nice bonus, but it's probably obvious why I bothered with these. This may be the only opportunity I get to add this beast to my GPU collection, whether it works or not. It is probably dead, and probably also trashed from poor storage... but it was never exactly a great product to begin with. 😁

Cards of note:
Geforce 7900GX2(!)
XFX Radeon HD 6870 Double-D
Quadro FX 4600 (basically an 8800GTS with a 384bit wide memory bus)
MSI GTX 1060 3GB (or possibly 1050 Ti)
XFX R9 390X
Sapphire R9 390X

Not expecting any of them to work, but if any do it will be pretty cool.

Very cool buy!! Are you sure it's not a Quadro FX4500 X2 instead of a GeForce 7900GX2? Can't tell just from that pic.

Oh, good call! I honestly had never even thought about the Quadro version of the 7900GX2... Upon closer inspection, I think it's the Quadro since it appears to have 4 DVI outputs! It is effectively the same card, with identical specs. So... double the outputs with no downsides? Why not! 😁

Yea super cool! I love the look of that card, its one of the only PCI-E Cards that really interests me. Since you know, AGP for life! 😁