Hoping wrote on 2024-08-04, 12:00:

It seems that there are quite a few veteran Anime fans in this forum, even though there is not much talk about it. Or is it just what it seems to me?

Because this is a forum of retro computing. 😉 There are many other places dedicated to anime fandom, online or offline.

dormcat wrote on 2024-08-04, 14:21:

Because this is a forum of retro computing. 😉 There are many other places dedicated to anime fandom, online or offline.

I have always believed that anime and computer science have a special relationship. Because it seems to me that in the east they are less fearful of technology, while here there are still many people who run away from it, there are many not so old people very wary of learning to use a computer.
As @Jo22 said, I also think that visual novels surpassed in graphic quality most western games in the 80s to mid 90s. With very sharp graphics and always in high resolution for the time. While western adventure games used very low resolutions for a long time.
To continue mentioning old games, Cobra Mission: Panic in Cobra City from 1991/92 had graphics at a much higher level than the usual adventure games in the west in my opinion.
I didn't know the Rance series at the time but it seems to have been relatively successful.
I didn't know the Power Dolls games either and they also seem to have been quite successful.
At that time there was no possibility of researching as today and the magazines of the time did not talk about these games, only those who had contact with them by chance, then we looked for more, that's what happened to me.

Hoping wrote on 2024-08-04, 12:00:

It seems that there are quite a few veteran Anime fans in this forum, even though there is not much talk about it. Or is it just what it seems to me?

Video gaming, retro computing and anime are all sort of nerd hobbies even if some went mainstream in the past 15 or so years. I'd imagine there are a lot of table top role players as well and most of us probably work in the tech sector.

RandomStranger wrote on 2024-08-04, 15:17:

Video gaming, retro computing and anime are all sort of nerd hobbies even if some went mainstream in the past 15 or so years. I'd imagine there are a lot of table top role players as well and most of us probably work in the tech sector.

Yes, I imagine that there will be many AD&D, Warhammer and other experts who are also fans of retrocomputing especially because they started playing those games on a tabletop and then continued playing the different computer versions. I myself played tabletop RPGs with AD&D rules many years ago although I didn't get hooked. But I did play video games that claimed to use AD&D rules.

Although those games must be more of a western thing, could anyone say what level of relevance they have had in the east? just curious.

Hoping wrote on 2024-08-04, 15:09:

I have always believed that anime and computer science have a special relationship.

Like @RandomStranger said: those are both typical "nerd hobbies." However anime and games have always been on two different tracks: they might have similar art styles but their business models were completely different. Even arcade games and visual novels have very different targets of audience.

A good example is Super Mario Bros.: Being one of the bestselling game franchise in history, the game has never received a proper anime adaptation for almost four decades until last year; likewise, several recent games adapted from popular anime/manga franchises have been criticized for being too generic. Franchises that can thrive in both anime and gaming industries are those with PvP and collectible elements, such as Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh! As an early reader of the Yu-Gi-Oh! manga I still remembered it started with the "wimpy boy received ancient superpower to punish bad guys" story that received only lukewarm feedback; its popularity skyrocketed after introducing the card dueling system.

Hoping wrote on 2024-08-04, 15:09:

Because it seems to me that in the east they are less fearful of technology, while here there are still many people who run away from it, there are many not so old people very wary of learning to use a computer.

Ever heard of Tsutomu Miyazaki? Japanese nerds / otaku had to endure about a decade of "darkest hours" because of him. Even without this serial killer, personal computers entered Japanese workplaces and households much later than other developed nations, as I mentioned earlier in this thread.

Hoping wrote on 2024-08-04, 15:09:

As @Jo22 said, I also think that visual novels surpassed in graphic quality most western games in the 80s to mid 90s. With very sharp graphics and always in high resolution for the time. While western adventure games used very low resolutions for a long time.

Early OS based on Western ASCII alphabets were simply unsuitable for displaying Japanese language (kanji in particular) so many Japanese companies developed their proprietary software / hardware to overcome this obstacle, with the price of decreased compatibility (i.e. Galápagos syndrome).

Hoping wrote on 2024-08-04, 16:36:

Although those games must be more of a western thing, could anyone say what level of relevance they have had in the east? just curious.

I remember reading ads of SSI's Gold Boxes on game magazines in late 1980s / early 1990s; those cover arts were definitely eye-catchers.

Due to the language barrier, however, very few oriental gamers of that era enjoyed untranslated RPG in English. I played Ultima Underworld while holding a dictionary on my hands; still remember numerous English words I learned from the game: avatar, Stygian Abyss, "Treachery and doom!", dexterity, thou/thy/thee, indeed, bandit, goblin, troll, stew, ghoul, peckish, satiated, tremor, valor, humility, virtue, standard (flag), lava, wisp, and spectre named Warren.

dormcat wrote on 2024-08-04, 17:06:

Ever heard of Tsutomu Miyazaki? Japanese nerds / otaku had to endure about a decade of "darkest hours" because of him. Even without this serial killer, personal computers entered Japanese workplaces and households much later than other developed nations, as I mentioned earlier in this thread.

Well, here in the year 2000 a minor with psychiatric problems killed his parents and his sister with a Katana and caused a great stir for having used that weapon to the point that they called him "the katana killer" and associated him with Japanese culture to some extent, and there was talk of the possible influence of a game, I remember that FFVIII was mentioned, but it can't be because in FFVIII the violence is very limited in my opinion. But it did create a certain stigma.

dormcat wrote on 2024-08-04, 17:06:

Early OS based on Western ASCII alphabets were simply unsuitable for displaying Japanese language (kanji in particular) so many Japanese companies developed their proprietary software / hardware to overcome this obstacle, with the price of decreased compatibility (i.e. Galápagos syndrome).

So they had better graphics because they created their hardware oriented to this task because of the writing system if I understand it well.
But in graphics and sound capabilities, the NEC PC-8801 I think was superior to most PCs of the time, although I don't know how affordable it was for the general population.

dormcat wrote on 2024-08-04, 17:06:

I remember reading ads of SSI's Gold Boxes on game magazines in late 1980s / early 1990s; those cover arts were definitely eye-catchers.

Due to the language barrier, however, very few oriental gamers of that era enjoyed untranslated RPG in English. I played Ultima Underworld while holding a dictionary on my hands; still remember numerous English words I learned from the game: avatar, Stygian Abyss, "Treachery and doom!", dexterity, thou/thy/thee, indeed, bandit, goblin, troll, stew, ghoul, peckish, satiated, tremor, valor, humility, virtue, standard (flag), lava, wisp, and spectre named Warren.

The language barrier still exists today, the writing system does not help much to this, I personally have the perception from a distance that in the East, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan have a way of thinking more in line with the West and vice versa than other countries in that area , and therefore there seems to be a better understanding.
One example is how Netflix is producing series in Japan and South Korea and is broadcasting them quite successfully in the West. This is a perception from a great distance.
But this topic is no longer the subject of this thread.

With all the comments in this thread, we have covered many games with similar style or theme to the anime, this mostly seems to be the fact of using anime style drawings above all, although also the narrative style of a VN is usually similar to that of an anime in my opinion. We already know that many VN have given rise to anime adaptations and vice versa.

Hoping wrote on 2024-08-04, 20:36:

I personally have the perception from a distance that in the East, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan have a way of thinking more in line with the West and vice versa than other countries in that area , and therefore there seems to be a better understanding.

Because all three have ongoing US military presence ever since the end of WW2. See their stock exchange indexes today and you'll know it's not a compliment: Nikkei -12.40%, KOPSI -8.78%, TAIEX -8.35% (including TSMC's -9.75% alone; that's 2.28 trillion NT dollars or 70 billion US dollars of a single company vaporized in just 4.5 hours).

Harry Potter wrote on 2024-08-01, 19:41:

Hi! I'm a fan of Anime. 😀 I have a variety of Windows systems, including Win98E and two Win7/32 laptops at my mother's house, a Win7/64 laptop at a day program and a Win11/64 laptop at home. I also have emulators of DOS, Amiga, SNES and Sega Genesis on my computers. I also have other systems and emulators, but I don't think they could handle Anime. I want some recommendations of some good Anime-based games. I'd prefer that they not be online games, because I don't think I'd be able to handle them well. Any ideas?

Little Witch Academia chambers of time
Hyperdimension Neptunia/Megadimension neptunia / 1 / R3 / VII
Touhou Fumo Racing
Yandere Simulator
Dragon Ball Z Kakarot
Cursed Pantsu
The Beginning of the Witch
Rustil Eternal Labirynth
Nobeta Little Witch
Sword Art Hollow Fragment
Senran Kagura
Fairy Fencer
One Piece: Warriors
Legend of Heroes
Blue Reflection
ys IX
Mary Skelter

etc
there are 10000s of them.

I've been looking at Anime games on itch.io and have to admit that I am not really into those types of games, even though I've been watching some similar shows.

Harry Potter wrote on 2024-08-10, 17:58:

I've been looking at Anime games on itch.io and have to admit that I am not really into those types of games, even though I've been watching some similar shows.

Hi there, I see, and that's understandable I think. A lot of them are retro style and mini games, too, it seems. Um, is there a genre you're more interested in?
Maybe we can make better recommendations if we know. I mean, there are different eras of anime, too. 60s to 2020s is a long time.
The 80s/early 90s anime style that I find interesting is something my sister has no use for, for example.
She grew rather up with art style of One Piece, Naruto and Aang - The last air bender.

Well, I like Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Action, Platformers, Shoot-em ups, Adventures and some RPGs. I also like board and Arcade games: mainly things with good graphics and sound. I'm not really into Sports, though. I'm also not into 3D games, as I have double-vision. Otherwise, I'd enjoy them. I also don't want MMO games, as I don't trust my social skills. 🙁 I have a DOS games site open in my browser and remember having a Windows games site but lost it because my browser crashed at the time but can Google one. I thank all of you for your help and advice.

I found back two web sites from which I downloaded Windows 3.1/98 games before.