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First post, by Kerr Avon

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As we all know, Windows isn't great at memory management. The longer you use Windows, without restarting the PC, then the memory gets more clogged up, because Windows doesn't correctly free up the memory when a given program or function has finished with it's area of memory. Fortunately, there are a few programs that can be used to free up lost memory, and for the past few years I have been using WinMemoryCleaner (https://github.com/IgorMundstein/WinMemoryCleaner.

Anyway, I have two questions, which I hope those more knowledgeable than me can help me with:

1. Do these programs actually do as they advertise, and free up memory? On my 16 GB Windows 10 desktop, WinMemoryCleaner does claim to have freed up x amount of RAM (3.4 GB, 2.1 GB, etc, whatever is the case at the time when I manually tell the program to free up memory), and I think it does help, but I am judging only by the 'feel' of Windows, so what do I know?

2. The reason I mention WinMemoryCleaner, is that for some reason, my PC now deletes the program when I try to run it when I first run it, I mean, I never even get far enough with the program to tell it to free up the memory. What you do normally, and what I did previously, is you run the WinMemoryCleaner.exe program (it's just one file), or use it's 'Start with Windows' option, so that it starts automatically. This causes WinMemoryCleaner to place an icon in your icons windows in Windows's task bare. and then when you want to free up memory, you just click on the icon and tell it to free up memory. But now, when I try to start the program, it just gets deleted.

I assumed it's being detected by the virus killer, and being found to be infected, and so deleted by the virus killer, and without giving me any notification at all of the deletion. But my virus kiiler, Zone Alarm, doesn't show WinMemoryCleaner in it's quarantine list, nor does Malwarebytes Fee. Maybe Microsoft's own Defender virus killer is doing it (even though, since I'm using a third party virus killer, then in theory Defender should be utterly dormant), but because I am using a third part virus killer, then Windows won't let me see any of Defender's options so I don't know if it is Defender that has started to delete 'WinMemoryCleaner.exe'.

The online virus checker 'Virus Total' (https://www.virustotal.com/gui/home/upload) shows the file as being totally clean (not even one 'infected' judgement from all of the checkers on the page).

So, can anyone tell me why this program is being deleted from my PC, and by what Windows or third party program, please?

Thanks for any answers.

Reply 1 of 8, by MadMac_5

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An unmodified install of any version of Windows newer than XP should be pretty good at memory management on its own, unless some processes aren't being shut down properly. I've had my PC running for weeks on end (Ryzen 7 5800X/16 GB) using a mix of web browsing, office, gaming (including modern intensive games like Robocop: Rogue City), and video editing software, and haven't noticed any issues with memory not being freed as needed. The general consensus over at Ars Technica for memory management in Windows post-XP is the following:

1. Install Windows.
2. Don't mess with memory management.
3. Use and enjoy your computer.

I wouldn't bother with this "memory freeing" software, as it's probably not doing much if anything to help at all. Windows is actually pretty good at putting unused data in system memory from active but idle processes into the swapfile, and freeing up memory when programs aren't using it (even if they terminate abnormally). About the only one of these "tweaking" programs that I still used beyond XP was Power Defrag, mainly because it would make Defrag run before the system booted fully and it would take much less time to execute back when I still used a mechanical hard drive as a boot drive.

Reply 2 of 8, by BitWrangler

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Several of the big security vulnerabilities like heartbleed etc, were implemented by screwing around with memory, so it's possible that windows has updated itself to a version that doesn't let anything but windows mess around with the memory.

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Reply 4 of 8, by chinny22

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One misconception is windows is now a memory hog.
Modern versions of windows are designed to use whatever resources are available, if you have 16GB what would you prefer? it to use the memory you paid for or limit itself to 8GB and have that other 8GB remain untouched?
If something demands more memory the OS will downsize accordingly.

Not saying it's perfect. Its still very much a good idea to reboot your PC, but does it really need to be up 24/7 or can you give it a quick reboot say end of the day

Reply 5 of 8, by Cyberdyne

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There were few programs for Windows 3.1 and 9x that were not totally snake oil. But still most of them were. But for NT based systems, they are all snake oil.

I am aroused about any X86 motherboard that has full functional ISA slot. I think i have problem. Not really into that original (Turbo) XT,286,386 and CGA/EGA stuff. So just a DOS nut.
PS. If I upload RAR, it is a 16-bit DOS RAR Version 2.50.

Reply 6 of 8, by leileilol

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I think i've only used two of those kind for Win95-98 in the day - some program that's just two sliders on a window ~1998, and Memokit ~2000 (which is really graphically dressed up and skinned and *looked* like it worked, but it was trialware). I stopped using these altogether when RAM became affordable and that was before the spyware/malware deluge with generic named programs marketing it up gaslighting you of being infected while they do their own payload.

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Reply 7 of 8, by dr_st

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I love texts that start with "As we all know..." followed by some fallacy. 😆

Other than that, I don't have much to add to what others (MadMac, chinny) already brought up. 😀

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Reply 8 of 8, by Malik

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I don't know if they really work - memory cleaners and registry cleaners alike - , but at the end of the cleaning process, it does feel good to see all the green check marks saying the system is "cleaned". Never bought any for the Win 9x systems though. Bought 1 year license for CCleaner once during Win7 days.

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