I see SHSUCDX is in Conventional memory. Are you loading it high? I think your config is good enough the way it is, but I like optimizing. 😀

BTW, may I offer you another goodie? A RAM drive to help speed up some operations by storing some files in RAM? Adding the files would be a simple XCOPY of a directory from your hard drive.

I am looking myself for a small but efficient disk cache that would work from Windows 98's DOS mode and huge FAT32 hard drives. Does anybody here have any succestions?

Harry Potter wrote on 2024-09-19, 21:41:

I see SHSUCDX is in Conventional memory. Are you loading it high? I think your config is good enough the way it is, but I like optimizing. 😀

You're right. I did have it loaded high, but much like when I was using mscdex it wouldn't load high for some reason.

Try moving the file to earlier in the boot process. 😀

Harry Potter wrote on 2024-09-20, 10:43:

Try moving the file to earlier in the boot process. 😀

Like where? I moved the line to the top of the autoexec.bat and still it wouldn't load high.

I'm using LH c:\windows\shsucdex.com /d:mscd001 /L:E

Tempest wrote on 2024-09-20, 12:37:

Harry Potter wrote on 2024-09-20, 10:43:

Try moving the file to earlier in the boot process. 😀

Like where? I moved the line to the top of the autoexec.bat and still it wouldn't load high.

I'm using LH c:\windows\shsucdex.com /d:IDECDROM /L:E

By default, SHSUCDX will load itself into high memory, if available, or
into low memory if it is already high. This option will prevent that.
To be exact:

SHSUCDX relocate high
SHSUCDX /C stay low
LH SHSUCDX relocate low
LH SHSUCDX /C stay high

In fact on my config it stays in high memory without any switch.

You can do better than this!

1Moduli utilizzanti memoria al di sotto di 1 MB:
2
3  Nome           Totale          Convenzionale    Memoria superiore
4  --------  ----------------   ----------------   ----------------
5  SYSTEM      35.664   (35K)      9.920   (10K)     25.744   (25K)
6  XMGR         2.320    (2K)        560    (1K)      1.760    (2K)
7  EMM386       4.176    (4K)      4.176    (4K)          0    (0K)
8  COMMAND     10.064   (10K)          0    (0K)     10.064   (10K)
9  SHSUCDX      6.176    (6K)          0    (0K)      6.176    (6K)
10  CTMOUSE      3.104    (3K)          0    (0K)      3.104    (3K)
11  DISPLAY      8.304    (8K)          0    (0K)      8.304    (8K)
12  XDVD2          160    (0K)          0    (0K)        160    (0K)
13  IFSHLP       2.864    (3K)          0    (0K)      2.864    (3K)
14  DOSKEY       9.840   (10K)          0    (0K)      9.840   (10K)
15  KEYB         6.944    (7K)          0    (0K)      6.944    (7K)
16  Disp.      723.632  (707K)    640.496  (625K)     83.136   (81K)
17
18Riepilogo della memoria:
19
20  Tipo di memoria      Totale         Usata     Disponibile
21  ----------------  -----------   -----------   -----------
22  Convenzionale         655.360        14.864       640.496
23  Superiore             158.096        74.960        83.136
24  Riservata             393.216       393.216             0
25  Estesa (XMS)*     133.011.056       775.792   132.235.264
26  ----------------  -----------   -----------   -----------
27  Memoria totale    134.217.728     1.258.832   132.958.896
28
29  Tot. inf. a 1 MB      813.456        89.824       723.632
30
31  Totale espansa (EMS)                                   33.947.648    (32M)
32  Estesa disponibile (EMS)*            33.554.432    (32M)
33
34  * EMM386 sta utilizzando memoria XMS per simulare memoria EMS se necessaria.
35    La memoria EMS disponibile potrebbe cambiare al variare della memoria XMS.
36
37  Dim. massima di un programma eseguibile                   640.480   (625K)
38  Dim. massima di un blocco libero di memoria superiore      42.704    (42K)
39  MS-DOS Š residente nell'area di memoria alta.

I didn't know that about shsucdex. By moving the file, I meant loading it earlier in the AUTOEXEC.BAT file, i.e. move the line that loads it up a few lines. I think Nemo1985's suggestion's better, though. 😀

I took off the LH and it loaded itself into upper memory. Thank you.

Tempest wrote on 2024-09-20, 13:25:

Nemo1985 wrote on 2024-09-20, 12:42:

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To be exact:

SHSUCDX relocate high
SHSUCDX /C stay low
LH SHSUCDX relocate low
LH SHSUCDX /C stay high

So I need all four of those lines?

No, as stated from readme file the executable should be loaded in high memory by itself and it does on my configuration.
You can try with the LH SHSUCDX /C.

Any idea why DOSKEY won't load itself into upper memory?

DOSKEY doesn't actually load itself into Upper memory: you need LH to load it high.

Also you can use this one:
http://paulhoule.com/doskey/
It's the one I use and it never failed me.

Harry Potter wrote on 2024-09-20, 13:30:

DOSKEY doesn't actually load itself into Upper memory: you need LH to load it high.

I tried LH and it doesn't seem to work.

Nemo1985 wrote on 2024-09-20, 13:32:

Also you can use this one:
http://paulhoule.com/doskey/
It's the one I use and it never failed me.

I tried that. I still can't load it high and it takes up more space! It's 10K and I have 15K of upper still free so I don't know why it's not working.

Maybe there's not enough memory left for it. Can you try "MEM/D>C:\T.TXT" and upload the C:\T.TXT file, please? Also, I'd like the total free UMB memory. But first, try Nemo1985's link and tell me how that works. I'll try his link no myself. 😀

Try adding HIGHSCAN on EMM386's command line. Also, when a driver is initializing, it will take up more memory than when it exits, and UMBs aren't fully in one block, so you may seem to have more memory than you have for the driver.

According to the last screen you posted you should have 19kb of upper memory free and the biggest block is 13kb so it should fit.

Also follow the latest harry potter's suggestion.

It's not clear if you are going to use windows 98 or just the dos part, according to this some memory can be freed.
That's how my emm386 is configured: DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE RAM HIGHSCAN I=B000-B7FF

Nemo1985 wrote on 2024-09-20, 13:59:

According to the last screen you posted you should have 19kb of upper memory free and the biggest block is 13kb so it should fit […]
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According to the last screen you posted you should have 19kb of upper memory free and the biggest block is 13kb so it should fit.

Also follow the latest harry potter's suggestion.

It's not clear if you are going to use windows 98 or just the dos part, according to this some memory can be freed.
That's how my emm386 is configured: DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE RAM HIGHSCAN I=B000-B7FF

I added that but DOSKEY is still in low memory. I switched back to the old one so it's only 5K instead of 10K but it's still kind of annoying.

Nemo1985 wrote on 2024-09-20, 13:59:

It's not clear if you are going to use windows 98 or just the dos part, according to this some memory can be freed.
That's how my emm386 is configured: DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE RAM HIGHSCAN I=B000-B7FF

I'm using Windows 98 as well.

Tempest wrote on 2024-09-20, 14:05:

Nemo1985 wrote on 2024-09-20, 13:59:

It's not clear if you are going to use windows 98 or just the dos part, according to this some memory can be freed.
That's how my emm386 is configured: DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE RAM HIGHSCAN I=B000-B7FF

I'm using Windows 98 as well.

So the only thing you can do is to edit msdos.sys and remove DoubleBuffer=1 if present, then on windows part of config.sys add:
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\DBLBUFF.SYS

Anyway in my opinion you have some sort of problem because your umb is very small and even programs which fits it they get loaded in conventional memory.