Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-23, 12:03:

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-09-22, 17:20:

9xxx Atis have so many layouts. This one almost looks like a r350 9800 pro or something. It's even ready for the aux power connector.

9600XT and 9800XT both use the same core and same PCB layout so they should look very similar to each other, the XT cards were full PCB and cooler redesigns since the original 9700 Pro and 9800 Pro both had issues with overheating from coolers that were too small and didn't have enough tension holding them on the core. (XT cards also have thermal monitoring for the core to help prevent thermal overload)

This is why there are many dead 9700 Pros and 9800 Pros .. ATI cutting corners and cheaping out on the cooler design which 3rd party fabs carried on with, the bas deign combined with the metal shim around the core caused the shim warp and to lift the cooler off the core over time due to heat/cooling cycles.

This naturally caused the core to die from overheating since the Pro cards had no thermal protection.

Over the weekend picked up an HP 620LX Win-CE unit (works too, just had to dig through my power adapters to find one to work with it). It even has a 3Com 56K cellular modem PCMCIA card (what spec would that run, 2G?).

At the same flea market found a Twinhead Subnote 486slc. Just like the 620LX it needs a CMOS battery, but unlike that one I don't know where it's located on that one. It's going to take a bit more researching for that one.

Back in the spring I had found a 2010 27" iMac that just needed the memory replaced, although that one's been giving me grief trying to get a stable install on it. Doesn't power up now, if I don't fix that I'll probably convert it to a monitor (the resolution on that is much better than the 27" monitors they sell at Staples & bestBuy)

Never heard of Video Floppy Disks before so picked these up on eBay the other day to add to my retro collection!

FazzaGBR wrote on 2024-09-23, 14:23:

Never heard of Video Floppy Disks before so picked these up on eBay the other day to add to my retro collection!

KInda cool concept, how many minutes could be crammed onto one of these ?

They dont look like normal magnetic floppy disks so Im guessing proprietary ?

Kinda like the silly disks some early digital cameras tried to force on people.

I like weird formats that people didnt normally use . .like MO discs and Mini Discs.

They look like they're gonna be somewhat like LS120/Zip/Shark disks. Usually the naming of media has something to do with capacity, so 50 minutes or 50 megabytes??? Must be using Mpeg2 if 50 minutes.... just going on gut expectations from what tech was around.

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-09-23, 14:59:

They look like they're gonna be somewhat like LS120/Zip/Shark disks. Usually the naming of media has something to do with capacity, so 50 minutes or 50 megabytes??? Must be using Mpeg2 if 50 minutes.... just going on gut expectations from what tech was around.

Kinda like Video CDs ?

I am wayyyy off, 50 FRAMES max 🤣 earlier than I was thinking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Floppy

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-09-23, 15:03:

I am wayyyy off, 50 FRAMES max 🤣 earlier than I was thinking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Floppy

oh wow .. that's not a lot of real estate "making the formatted capacity of the Video Floppy 800 Kbytes" and the video is played back in what I'm guessing is a slide show type of format.

So not a lot of playback time.

How did we manage with these formats ...

Tomorrow should bring me a slotket and a FIC PA-2013.

2MB onboard cache, woo!

I picked this up on Saturday - a brand new Iiyama Vision Master Pro 452! I first bought one in 2001, with I believe the first paycheck I ever received. It was epic then and it's just as epic now, such a lovely bit of kit, and so pleased to have found the perfect one after searching for about 2 years 😀

It's the main subject of a video I published earlier today too:

https://youtu.be/9Ui3XfZwMII?t=190 (link skips past some car stuff - plus, bonus Lian Li case content!)

Shadzilla wrote on 2024-09-23, 18:15:

I picked this up on Saturday - a brand new Iiyama Vision Master Pro 452! I first bought one in 2001, with I believe the first paycheck I ever received. It was epic then and it's just as epic now, such a lovely bit of kit, and so pleased to have found the perfect one after searching for about 2 years 😀

It's the main subject of a video I published earlier today too:

https://youtu.be/9Ui3XfZwMII?t=190 (link skips past some car stuff - plus, bonus Lian Li case content!)

Cool find! Congrats on finding it in such a great condition. I have been longing for one as well. Like yourself I used to have one of these, I think it was 2000, a couple of us at work (maybe 3 or 4 of us) ordered these for at home. I can't remember if I had 19" or 21", what I do remember is that I had a hard time fitting it onto my desk and put a keyboard in front of it, so much space it took up. 😀

rasz_pl wrote on 2024-09-20, 09:24:

fosterwj03 wrote on 2024-09-19, 21:26:

I think the GTX 480 suffers from a short circuit somewhere.

Unfortunately, I think the GPU damaged my motherboard when it failed (does that happen?). The motherboard won't display graphics with a card in the primary PCIE slot (I tried 4 known good cards). I hope the CPU's PCIE lanes didn't suffer that damage since I have a backup motherboard.

trace PCIE power on that slot, mot likely traces are blown

Yup, there's a bit of a bulge in the PCB by one of the PCIE pins. I don't have the tools to fix it, but I might keep the board since it has 4 PCI slots that still work.

Unfortunately, I think the short circuit also damaged the processor I had in the board, an E3-1280 v2. I'm only getting about 60% of the performance I got before the short in several benchmarks. It's happening both on the damaged motherboard and an alternate board. I wonder if the short damaged the voltage circuits on the CPU. That's a first for me.

Regardless, now I need to a new 4 Core, 8 Thread CPU to replace it. I'll have to use an i5-3570 in the meantime.

pan069 wrote on 2024-09-23, 20:32:

Shadzilla wrote on 2024-09-23, 18:15:

I picked this up on Saturday - a brand new Iiyama Vision Master Pro 452! I first bought one in 2001, with I believe the first paycheck I ever received. It was epic then and it's just as epic now, such a lovely bit of kit, and so pleased to have found the perfect one after searching for about 2 years 😀

It's the main subject of a video I published earlier today too:

https://youtu.be/9Ui3XfZwMII?t=190 (link skips past some car stuff - plus, bonus Lian Li case content!)

Cool find! Congrats on finding it in such a great condition. I have been longing for one as well. Like yourself I used to have one of these, I think it was 2000, a couple of us at work (maybe 3 or 4 of us) ordered these for at home. I can't remember if I had 19" or 21", what I do remember is that I had a hard time fitting it onto my desk and put a keyboard in front of it, so much space it took up. 😀

Fantastic!! They're definitely a bit chonky and I'm having to think about a different desk or making one to try and fit in better in my under-stairs retro corner.

Shadzilla wrote on 2024-09-23, 18:15:

I picked this up on Saturday - a brand new Iiyama Vision Master Pro 452! I first bought one in 2001, with I believe the first paycheck I ever received. It was epic then and it's just as epic now, such a lovely bit of kit, and so pleased to have found the perfect one after searching for about 2 years 😀

It's the main subject of a video I published earlier today too:

https://youtu.be/9Ui3XfZwMII?t=190 (link skips past some car stuff - plus, bonus Lian Li case content!)

I'm continually amazed at the stuff people find that is new in box and 20+ years old. Amazing this much stuff, especially something so big and expensive like this, is sitting around and never opened.

I am slightly less amazed, due to having 2 or 3 things I bought when they were on sale/clearance, and not deploying them at the time. Intel at play camera, SCSI card... those are the vintage two, Acer 20" monitor, a few years back, for when I got my bedroom desk reorganised.. hasn't happened yet.

Though then there's the "since I've been fully back into retro" stuff that I have found for pocket change, like WinXP home, XFX GF4MX400 (no shrink but unused) AIW 9600, eBay 6200 PCIs (That's a toss between very late NIB stock clearance and retro) ... thought there was another thing but damned if my neurons are in a co-operative mood to drag it out.

Edit: Oh that was the other thing, but from further back in the day so vintage era-ish, Laing PC game pad, bought two at the time, thinking one might wear out, but didn't use it overmuch and the 2nd one stayed sealed. They are somewhere between a knockoff Gravis pad and SNES controller in style.

eesz34 wrote on 2024-09-24, 12:18:

Shadzilla wrote on 2024-09-23, 18:15:

I picked this up on Saturday - a brand new Iiyama Vision Master Pro 452! I first bought one in 2001, with I believe the first paycheck I ever received. It was epic then and it's just as epic now, such a lovely bit of kit, and so pleased to have found the perfect one after searching for about 2 years 😀

It's the main subject of a video I published earlier today too:

https://youtu.be/9Ui3XfZwMII?t=190 (link skips past some car stuff - plus, bonus Lian Li case content!)

I'm continually amazed at the stuff people find that is new in box and 20+ years old. Amazing this much stuff, especially something so big and expensive like this, is sitting around and never opened.

Yeah it was a lucky find for sure. The chap I bought it from got it (and some others) from a computer shop that was closing down. I can imagine there's still a fair number of those kind of stores out there that have held on to old stock for decades.

Picked up a quite rare version of the GeForce 256. A 3rd party vendor (not dell oem) non agp pro, Asus 64MB DDR Version.
I haven't seen many in the wild like this.

Shadzilla wrote on 2024-09-23, 18:15:

I picked this up on Saturday - a brand new Iiyama Vision Master Pro 452! I first bought one in 2001, with I believe the first paycheck I ever received. It was epic then and it's just as epic now, such a lovely bit of kit, and so pleased to have found the perfect one after searching for about 2 years 😀

Niiiice!

I got mine 2 years ago, but in the complete opposite condition of yours: no box, non-working, and stored in a leaky garage (as evidenced by the rust and water spots on the innards.) Was $5 though. 🤣

Anywho... if yours is anything like mine on the inside, it should have a Hitachi shadow mask picture tube... which IMO are some of the best tubes to have in a CRT. You will also want to crack yours open and check the electrolytic caps. IIyama didn't use the best ones in there. Mine were a mix of G-Luxon and Elite, IIRC, among some other brands. One of the bigger G-Luxon caps was bulging. Not sure if that caused a ceramic cap to short out and the HOT (Horizontal Output Transistor) to fail or if the shorted ceramic cap caused the HOT to fail and the G-Luxon was just age-related failure from the monitor sitting in storage for 10+ years... but either way, once started pulling caps after replacing the failed G-luxon cap and the HOT, I found many of the small caps on the neck board and mainboard were starting to go real bad. So just a heads-up warning that yours might need some servicing (recapping) sometime in the future too. Other than that, the picture on the screen appeared very nice and sharp... well, as good as it could get with the not-so-proper HOT I used to test the monitor.

Repo Man11 wrote on 2024-09-22, 01:37:

Nice to see a GeForce 4 with a better than average factory cooler.

I know, right.
The stock reference coolers are pretty undersized for the TDP of the GF 4 TI4400/4600/4800 GPU... though nowhere near as bad as the reference cooler on the Radeon 9700 and 9800 series.

Given that it's 18 years old, and can't even do it's intended purpose with modern systems, I'll throw it in here.

I finally have an HD-DVD player for my already RGHed Xbox 360. It, like the Kinect that came with my system, will probably go unused for 99% of the time. But hey, it's the HD-DVD drive.

Even came with an accidentally forgotten about copy of Batman Begins, and it even functions.

And the results of today are...

1. FIC PA-2013 - dead.
It's the one @Roland30 owned and did a post about the issue. I had replaced the chinesium-origins FDS9435A with a FDS4435 (that is actually a genuine Fairchild/Onsemi part) but other than getting the board out of stuck RESET signal, no significant changes.
The MOSFET does heat up now (it didn't do that before), but the chipset and CPU still remain stone cold. POST card shows --. CPU used is Pentium MMX 200 ceramic, SL2RY, tested working on another mainboard (a Totem TM-586TX4)

2. PII CPU CARD REV1.5 slotket - works, tested with a Celeron 533 as I didn't have any Coppermine (that would be still working properly) on hand - I should be receiving some in a few days.