Sure You can just leave s478 era setups without intel chipset drivers and it will work... Yeah "work". But many mainboard companies didn't issue drivers for their chipsets! And If you think that Intel standard chipset (ICH2...3...4...etc) drivers gives the solution then... How how wrong You are!

What I'm saying... If someone propose tonturn s478 rig into 98retro machine then I'm just wondering what is doing my SP3 XP byMalcomX (last winxp!) on hdd of my P3 1.0ghz 512MB and Voodoo3? Which runs great.... .... Last 3 MB from P4 800mhz FSB 3.0Ghz that I tried to run under W98 failed, because of lack of drivers or and unstability... Dont tell.me that a setup from 2004/2005 will go good with system that ended support on +/-2002! ... Tried with bad experience! XP is perfect for s.478 in total of support=stability.. that's all. P.s. try to install NV 6800/7900 AGP on a win98 = good luck! And If somehow You manange to do this report about glitches and speed under 98!

And little sth at the end... Try to install w98 on 6800+ s478 and try to pass the first screen after scandisk procedure .... Sure it will let You through without stuck black screen.

Spitz wrote on 2024-09-09, 19:31:

Sure You can just leave s478 era setups without intel chipset drivers and it will work... Yeah "work". But many mainboard companies didn't issue drivers for their chipsets! And If you think that Intel standard chipset (ICH2...3...4...etc) drivers gives the solution then... How how wrong You are!

I'm using an LGA775 / i865 (ICH5) motherboard with a 2006 P4 Cedar Mill processor and it's been perfectly fine (i.e. completely stable) with Win 98.

I'm confused as to why you're claiming something doesn't work, when plenty of others including myself have such setups that do work.

I agree with the point about the graphics cards. The GeForce 6xxx series isn't as ideal for Win98, but earlier series GeForce cards (FX and earlier) are fine.

Another option for someone wanting to dual-boot XP and 98 is a dual-GPU setup (e.g. fast AGP card for XP and PCI for 9X and earlier). Although such a system will leave a bit of a compatibility/performance hole around 1999-2000 era games.

Spitz wrote on 2024-09-06, 13:23:

VivienM wrote on 2024-09-05, 01:59:

CiZ wrote on 2024-09-04, 21:27:

After that I will upgrade my computer to a set with Core2Duo.

My suggestion - turn the socket 478 project into a 98SE rig.

Then for XP, you might even want to go quite a bit newer then C2D/C2Q. I'm a big believer in ivy bridge - the parts are cheap (although not as cheap as C2D/C2Q) and plentiful, it's the fastestish officially supported XP platform, and you can still to this day dual-boot a modern unsupported Win11 24H2. Probably not for long but hey. Which is kinda insane if you ask me - almost twenty-five years' worth of software natively booting on the same hardware.

Nah. 98Se is sth +/- socket 370 (max Tualatin). For XP s.478 is perfect. Notice, many vendors didn't even issue drivers for S478 era parts.

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Shponglefan wrote on 2024-09-10, 00:18:

Spitz wrote on 2024-09-09, 19:31:

Sure You can just leave s478 era setups without intel chipset drivers and it will work... Yeah "work". But many mainboard companies didn't issue drivers for their chipsets! And If you think that Intel standard chipset (ICH2...3...4...etc) drivers gives the solution then... How how wrong You are!

Another option for someone wanting to dual-boot XP and 98 is a dual-GPU setup (e.g. fast AGP card for XP and PCI for 9X and earlier). Although such a system will leave a bit of a compatibility/performance hole around 1999-2000 era games.

Wow, I didn't know that this kind of configuration is possible.

I think all your graphics cards are suitable for a WinXP machine. If I had to choose, I would also take the 2600XT. It certainly won't be enough for late WinXP games, but for everything up to 2006, with a few compromises, it will do just fine. The Match is especially great for your S478 system.

For everything later 2006+, a much faster Windows 7 machine from 2012+ will also work. This is better and cheaper in every respect than anything else you can put into your S478 in terms of CPU and GPU.

I have an IBM M42 with i845, 2800MHz Northwood and GF FX5900 for Windows XP only, it runs everything up to 2004 and a C2D + GF GTX 770 with Win7 and XP in dual boot for everything later. On the C2D, however, I use Win 7 almost exclusively and have no need for booting WinXP so far.

I remember installing Win98 on a 6800 GT AGP and Athlon 64 back in the day. There is official drivers ver 81.98 on the Nvidia site so I don't see why it would be an issue. Though I don't know what the purpose would be, it's way overkill for any game made for 98.

PC-Engineer wrote on 2024-09-23, 16:07:

I think all your graphics cards are suitable for a WinXP machine. If I had to choose, I would also take the 2600XT. It certainly won't be enough for late WinXP games, but for everything up to 2006, with a few compromises, it will do just fine. The Match is especially great for your S478 system.

For everything later 2006+, a much faster Windows 7 machine from 2012+ will also work. This is better and cheaper in every respect than anything else you can put into your S478 in terms of CPU and GPU.

I have an IBM M42 with i845, 2800MHz Northwood and GF FX5900 for Windows XP only, it runs everything up to 2004 and a C2D + GF GTX 770 with Win7 and XP in dual boot for everything later. On the C2D, however, I use Win 7 almost exclusively and have no need for booting WinXP so far.

Yeah a 478 P4 is going to be crushed by 2006+ games. P4's handily got spanked by their Athlon 64 counterparts anyway. 2006 is really Core2duo territory.

CiZ wrote on 2024-09-04, 21:27:

1. Do you have a tested way to prepare DualBoot WinXP / Win98?

I think this is the most beautiful way to boot different operating systems.
So their system files are always separated.