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First post, by postaldarkness

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Ive been sitting at my computer for about 3 hours trying to figure out how to get this thing to install. Ive got the CD mounted but cant figure out the command to make the installer run. Im working on OS X but the 60 sec guide thing was kinda vague on this step. Either that or im a tardbutt. Probably closer to the second one. If anyone could walk me through the commands I need for the rest of the process I would be forever grateful. Also I will send cookies.....if that helps. thanks!

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Reply 1 of 28, by MiniMax

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When you have switched to the D-drive with the D: command, and listed the files with the dir command, all you have to do is to type the name of the command (program) that you want to run. If the program is called setup, just type setup.

Edit: Chocolate cookies please 😀

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Reply 2 of 28, by MiniMax

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postaldarkness wrote:

Its a trail of cookies leading to the answer!

Also, what if for whatever reason I cant figure out what the name of the installer is? I tried the obvious one that was Instal~1 and the one that was SSGCD~1 which is the name of the game but neither worked. Manual is completely dumb and no help. Basically im wondering why they dont program you directly into DOSBox to help noobs like me.

THANKS!

Why was Instal~1 the obviuos?

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Reply 3 of 28, by postaldarkness

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has the word instal(l) in it?!!! IM SO CONFUSED! It was the closest thing to what the manual said to click. None of the names that come up when i use the dir command seem to work. I always get ____is an illegal command. /cry.
Thanks for all your help.

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Reply 4 of 28, by wd

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Please post full information about your system, dosbox configuration (especially the exact mounting) and the steps you already did (including what the output of DIR is).
Use "cd install" to change the directory btw.

Reply 5 of 28, by MiniMax

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Switch to the D: drive and install the game (to C:) […]
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Switch to the D: drive and install the game (to C:)

C:\>D:

Have a look at the files with the dir command, and see if you can spot an install or and a setup program or whatever the command to start the installation is called. Check your Manual/Installation Guide for MyGame for the exact command to use.

D:\>dir /w

As wd said, we need to know what that dir command shows.

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Reply 6 of 28, by postaldarkness

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I get this when I do the dir command. It kinda looks like it cut off some at the top now that I look at it. Anyway to fix that, maybe see if theres more above?

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Reply 7 of 28, by djp

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DIR/P will pause the screen; tap any key to continue, spacebar, for example.

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Reply 8 of 28, by Qbix

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you are absolutely sure that this is the dos version and not the mac version ?

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Reply 9 of 28, by MiniMax

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postaldarkness wrote:

I get this when I do the dir command. It kinda looks like it cut off some at the top now that I look at it. Anyway to fix that, maybe see if theres more above?

Did you think it was just for fun that I wrote dir /w, and not just dir ?

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Reply 10 of 28, by Snover

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Looks like a Mac version to me. Desktop DB and Desktop DF (DESKTO~2) are Mac OS Classic files. All the 0-byte files indicate data stored in resource forks.. etc.

Yes, it’s my fault.

Reply 11 of 28, by postaldarkness

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1. Pardon me for not paying attention enough to add a /w. Im ridiculously new at this cut me some slack!

2. It runs on Mac and DOS.

thanks again everyone Its not often that theres a community so ready to help people with stuff like this.

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Reply 12 of 28, by Snover

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At best, you are mounting the wrong filesystem from the CD. At the worst, the label is wrong and this is not a DOS disc. Hybrid discs came with an HFS part and an ISO-9660 part; you need to use the latter.

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Reply 13 of 28, by MiniMax

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Snover wrote:

At best, you are mounting the wrong filesystem from the CD. At the worst, the label is wrong and this is not a DOS disc. Hybrid discs came with an HFS part and an ISO-9660 part; you need to use the latter.

I think Snover hit the problem on its head here. I bet his Mac OSX only makes the HFS part of the CD available to DOSBox. We need some Mac OSX gurus to tell us how to make the Mac only mount the DOS part.

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Edit: Does this work??

# mkdir /tmp/my_old_cd
# mount_iso9660 /dev/cdrom /tmp/my_old_cd
# ls /tmp/my_old_cd

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Edit2: Looks like the command to use is mount_cd9660 :

http://developer.apple.com/DOCUMENTATION/Darw … t_cd9660.8.html

Anyone know what the device name of the CD-ROM might be?

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Edit3: Try the drutil status command. It should show you the device name. Something like /dev/disk1 (or disk2, or disk3).

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Edit4: diskutil looks nice, but I don't see any way of telling the mount option in diskutil to mount the ISO-9960.

http://developer.apple.com/DOCUMENTATION/Darw … diskutil.8.html

You are not alone:

http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=1931

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Edit5: Someone figured it out:

http://forums.osxfaq.com/viewtopic.php?t=4512 … ighlight=hybrid
http://lists.apple.com/archives/darwin-dev/20 … p/msg00136.html

So I guess the trick is the /dev/diskNs1 part, where N is the disk number as shown by drutil status. So perhaps:

# mkdir /tmp/my_old_cd
# mount_iso9660 /dev/disk1s1 /tmp/my_old_cd
# ls /tmp/my_old_cd

and then in DOSBox mount D /tmp/my_old_cd -t cdrom

Maybe add a little disktool -r to the mix.

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Edit6:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story= … 060823101421566

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Edit7: If this works, then that is the easiest solution so far:
http://logic-users.org/forums/LUG/thread/9414
Click the CD-icon while you hold down the Control-key, and then select the "Mount as ISO9660" option. Could it be that simple?

Or, eject the CD, hold down Command-Option-I, and insert the CD again. Keep that Cmd-Opt-I pressed until the mounting process has completed.

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=812785

Last edited by MiniMax on 2008-03-14, 21:43. Edited 8 times in total.

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Reply 14 of 28, by Snover

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Removable discs in Mac OS are given device nodes at /dev/rdisk{n}[s{n}] but I'm sure that using Disk Utility is easier 😉 I also think that both the HFS and ISO-9660 filesystems are mounted automatically, but I can't think of any hybri CDs I have offhand to test that statement with.

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Reply 15 of 28, by postaldarkness

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Sounds like a plan! Where do I input commands if Im not working in DOSBox? Thanks again, glad the issue was figured out.

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Reply 16 of 28, by MiniMax

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Somewhere on your Mac there should be a utility or something called Terminal / Shell or something. When it is running, you should a prompt like '$' or '%'.

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Reply 17 of 28, by postaldarkness

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My_old_cd should be replaced by the cd name correct?
Also is it possible to permanently destroy my computer by putting the wrong command in terminal? Im morbidly afraid of killing my computer.

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Reply 18 of 28, by MiniMax

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It doesn't really matter which name you use instead of 'My_old_cd'. Use any name (without spaces, colons or any other funny characters) that makes sense to you.

Permantly destroy? No. The worst that can happen is if you use some commands (like 'rm') that removes/deletes files from your computer. If a problem occurs with the mounting, you might have to reboot in order to get back to normal.

But I would hope we could get someone with a Mac to see this thread, someone who knows a bit more than you about the Terminal/Shell commands, and try out the mount commands.

The Control-click or Command-Option-I trick did not work for you?

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Reply 19 of 28, by IIGS_User

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The Terminal application is located in Applications/Utilities.

Here is a way how to mount the hidden PC part of hybrid Mac/PC CDs in the MacOS Finder:
Mount both the iso9660 _and_ HFS partitions of a hybrid CD

An easier way to have access to the PC part of such CDs is just to create an image of them by using the Toast application (File menu -> "Save as..." and imgmounting it into db.

Klimawandel.