Kocyk wrote on 2024-10-07, 09:22:
My friend I feel resignation and frustration.
I am terrified and furious.
Easy, bro. Relax. Retro computing is a hobby and should be enjoyable.
I apologize if I've been bit harsh on you. The point is, however, that you haven't specified your budget. You kept saying "expensive" in different replies but you gave no number. In addition to average income and abundancies of used computer hardware, other factors such as environment regulations in different cities, counties, states / provinces, or countries, can affect the cost of acquiring vintage hardware as well.
Cupertino, CA is a city with homeless tents a block away from Apple Park; I'd say most VOGONS users are in between two extremes, but even that is a very big margin. Even the same amount of a certain currency, say, US$100, can be felt very differently by different individuals living in the same city.
Kocyk wrote on 2024-10-07, 09:22:
I read that it is better to choose a C2D processor than a Pentium4 because it is only a 2 year difference, but the difference in performance is huge. The problem is that some socket775 motherboards have damaged condensators,
As rasz_pl and Shponglefan wrote: the capacitor plague was almost over in the early C2D era (65 nm). The plague affected mostly P4 Prescott era (90 nm) motherboards. Besides, LGA775 motherboards with good capacitors are not too hard to find, and bulging capacitors can be replaced with relative ease.
Kocyk wrote on 2024-10-07, 09:22:
some motherboards are poor, as you wrote about, and these good motherboards are expensive.
Woah, hold it right there. I gave examples of differences between an entry-level and a flagship motherboards, but I didn't say an entry-level MB must be a poor MB. Many entry-level MB were retired from office computers, sitting in air conditioned rooms running mundane office suites software in their lifetimes, so their conditions can be quite nice. Heck, I've seen office computers in e-waste with protective film still attached on plastic! Sure, some features were limited due to low-end chipsets (such as providing fewer and/or slower SATA and USB ports), but if those features don't matter to you then why not.
Kocyk wrote on 2024-10-07, 09:22:
I've heard that the price of socket775 motherboards has increased due to the popularity of Xeon processors.
Never heard of that. Care to share your source please?
Kocyk wrote on 2024-10-07, 09:22:I found these motherboards […]
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I found these motherboards
ASUS P5B DELUXE
Asus p5k pro
Asus P5Q3
but I don't know there are good or not. For sure their price is high.
I do own an Asus P5B Deluxe so I'll use it as an example: after checking eBay I found seven items. Two of them feel fishy with only stock photos (I never buy used items, computer hardware or whatnot, from any seller using stock photos taken from the original manufacturer), one has bulging (but not too bad) capacitors. The rest four are priced between US$50-100, some with CPU and RAM bundled. Again, I don't know if those prices are "expensive" to you; it's very subjective.
Kocyk wrote on 2024-10-07, 09:22:Choice of RAM. The 2nd/3rd generation of inteli processors supports modules with 1Rx8 and 2Rx8 organization and the maximum size […]
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Choice of RAM. The 2nd/3rd generation of inteli processors supports modules with 1Rx8 and 2Rx8 organization and the maximum size of the memory chip on the memory module is 512 MB (4 Gb). For an 8GB memory module, it must have 16 chips, and it cannot have 8. You need to check if the ram memory fits the processor, and not only the speed and voltage, but also the arrangement of the 1Rx8 and 2Rx8 modules.
The box cooling system in Intel from I5 processors is suitable for office work. Under higher CPU loads, it gets hot and noisy. All the more reason to use a different cooling system for gaming. You have to play around with the cooling system.
Another problem is the choice of power supply. The biggest load on the power supply is the graphics card. You need to know the model of the graphics card and calculate whether the power supply will do the job.
Only then can you buy a power supply.
From the older graphics cards, you can consider the GTX750/750Ti/950/960/1050/1050Ti. These are graphics cards with low power consumption and not so terribly vintage yet. Do you agree that old graphics cards "heaters" are not worth buying? In my opinion at this point, they are potentially very faulty, and they heat up mercilessly.
Wait, did you copy the four paragraphs above from someone else's reply at some other forum? Because they don't sound like your words. Rather, they sound like someone else talking to you instead.
Asus P5B Deluxe accepts 4 strips of DDR2 (up to 2 GB each), making total of 8 GB max. It would be difficult to explain RAM Ranks in a few words and I'm sure it would only add your frustration; just follow the compatibility list provided by MB maker. If you buy an MB with RAM bundled then you can set the problem aside (assuming the seller has tested the system).
The stock cooler of any Intel CPU would be adequate under most situations. Should you really feel the need to replace it with a better cooler, options are cheap and plenty for LGA775.
"Only then can you buy a power supply." Nonsense. I don't think you can buy any 80 Plus-certified ATX PSU with less than 350W nowadays; 350W is enough to handle GTX 960 (TDP = 120 W) with ease, let alone any GPU with less TDP. You wouldn't want 10 series as Nvidia provided no WinXP driver for them.
