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Reply 160 of 167, by iraito

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The 9000 series was overall an excellent series, as it stands there's multiple retrospectives of that series on youtube and that says something.

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Reply 161 of 167, by ErroneousHyphen

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2024-06-08, 10:57:
iraito wrote on 2024-06-06, 14:39:

Oh sure thing take your time, one of my previous builds a P4 3.0 + gf 6800 GS gave me the same performances you are describing, hell I got the same results on an athlon XP 2800+ and 9800 XXL.
Now I'm planning to change the P4 with an athlon 64 3700, I want at least to get 30 fps minimum.

I had some time to spare today, so I took my X800 XT out of storage and tested VTM Bloodlines on this system. I'm using the retail CD version + latest official patch version 1.2. No mods or third party fixes. This is under WinME, using Catalyst 6.2 with VSync disabled in the driver panel. Otherwise, all driver settings are at default (no AA/AF). All results are at 1600x1200 with the console command cl_showfps 1 being used to measure the frame rate. All in-game graphical settings are maxed out.

Indoors (i.e. inside the player's apartment) I get around 90 FPS on average. Outdoors, while walking around the Santa Monica streets, I get between 28-40 FPS. When entering the sewers via the manholes, I get 24-35 FPS. The game stutters a bit whenever I first enter an area, so it's pretty much as I remember it from back in the day. The frame rate stabilizes after that initial stutter and stays close to 30 FPS from that point onward.

Great build! I'm very curious, did you get any other benchmarks done with the X800XT (3dMark, Quake, Unreal)? I've got a 9800XT in my windows 98 machine and would be super curious to see how the X800 compares in yours.

Reply 162 of 167, by Joseph_Joestar

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ErroneousHyphen wrote on 2024-10-12, 09:49:

Great build! I'm very curious, did you get any other benchmarks done with the X800XT (3dMark, Quake, Unreal)?

I did want to do more testing with that X800 XT, but unfortunately, it started artifacting at some point. I haven't had the time to do thorough diagnostics on it, but I imagine one (or more) of the memory chips might need to be reflowed or replaced.

I've got a 9800XT in my windows 98 machine and would be super curious to see how the X800 compares in yours.

If an X800 GTO will do, I have a different build with one of those.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Core 2 Duo E8600 / Foxconn P35AX-S / X800 / Audigy2 ZS
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 970 / X-Fi

Reply 163 of 167, by ErroneousHyphen

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Ah darn that's a shame! I do have an X850XT but it too myself does not appear to be working correctly.

I'll check out the other build! thanks kindly 😁

Reply 164 of 167, by bZbZbZ

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Sucks about the X800 XT. I have had my Radeon 9700 (bought new!), 9800 Pro (used), and X800 (used) all start artifacting on me while in my use. My Radeon X850 Pro (bought new) is still fine but I'm worried. Such a shame...

Reply 165 of 167, by iraito

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I know it might sound weird but try tweaking the memory by overclocking it by small precents up or down and see what happens.

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Reply 166 of 167, by mgtroyas

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2023-08-15, 09:51:

Finally decided to take my Logitech RumblePad 2 out of storage and hook it up to this machine. I bought this gamepad around 2005 or so, and have kept it ever since. It still works fine to this day.

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Oh man, good to know you're enjoying it, I absolutely love Logitech gamepads. My first gamepad ever was a Dual Action I started using on my Pentium 233 and Windows 95. Then I got a RumblePad2 like yours, and after I moved it's still being used by my mother in his PC. I myself bought a F710 many years ago, probably still while using XP, and now I have one more, for playing Retroarch on my Chromecast and connecting it to Android phones/tablets.

The F710 is compatible with everything, on DirectInput mode even Need for Speed Underground has force feedback working under XP, and on modern systems the Xinput mode makes it work with anything out of the box, so I must simply flip the switch and can use it both on retro and modern builds. Responsive, durable, zero dead zone, zero lag, batteries last forever, analog sticks don't wear down easily... it just works great.

Reply 167 of 167, by Joseph_Joestar

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mgtroyas wrote on 2025-03-11, 11:24:

Oh man, good to know you're enjoying it, I absolutely love Logitech gamepads.

Yeah, I had this one for a long time and it still works great.

Interestingly, it can even be used in DOS games, as long as you play them from within Win9x.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Core 2 Duo E8600 / Foxconn P35AX-S / X800 / Audigy2 ZS
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 970 / X-Fi