PcBytes wrote on 2024-10-22, 16:57:

Funny enough, the caps in the VRM are actually original to the board - the joints look factory, no residue around them or anythi […]
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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-10-22, 16:29:

PcBytes wrote on 2024-10-22, 13:22:

Look who showed up from Poland 😀

If you haven't heard me say so before, those go really fast with OPPainter BIOS settings if you can dig them out of the web... or the archive if that's back up.

Looks like maybe main caps have been replaced, but those green ones around the RAM might have to come out.

Funny enough, the caps in the VRM are actually original to the board - the joints look factory, no residue around them or anything.

The Teapos will defo' come all out, black or green. I'm planning a polymer recap if I can get hold of 820uF polys, as well as some suitable replacements for the 470s.

Got to check if the archive is back up, then off to diggin' OPPainter's KG7 BIOS settings.

EDIT: Couldn't find the PCPer thread... however I found this:
https://forums.ocworkbench.com/showthread.php?p=88918

Apparently they're obtained from both OPPainter and DDTUNG.

Yup that will do the business. Might be all you need. There was a little bonus information for WPCRedit tweaks originally also. But those really get you flying, make KT266 look lame, go past 266A, embarrass most of the KT333 implementations (there seem to be a lot of sucky ones) and say to nforce, knock knock, I'm in the neighbourhood you win9x incompatible poser.

Aw hell yea then. I have the KR7A which isn't bad either, but I wanna see just how much can the 760/761 stomp. I'd wager it ain't until KT880 that it stops stomping everything in it's way.
KT400 wasn't really stellar either IME (I've had the A7V8X and it quite sucked) and KT600 just seemed more of a sophisticated KT400 w/ SATA support.

I wonder how it'd fare against a tuned K7S5A tho. I remember the K7S5A (the original one, not Pro) being quite sought after.

A little off my usual norm, of Socket 939 CPU's. However I just purchased an Athlon XP 2800+.

Not just your normal Barton 2800+, but actually the fastest Throughbred-B Core @ 2.25Ghz
Its also the Fastest Athlon XP Produced for the Retail Market & the 2nd fastest Athlon XP Produced at all.

As you can see in the list here, only one specific XP 3200+ is faster, which is the Barton Core & an OEM only CPU Made for HP I believe.

I am going to purchase a KT333 Motherboard with a AGP universal Slot in it (the last AMD chipset with UNI AGP) , for my Voodoo/other 3.3V AGP collection.
Should be an interesting Build! This CPU seems decently scarce, with only one other listing sold on eBay in the last 3 years. although I'm not sure its exactly sought after, at all 🤣.
I'll post a pic when it lands on my door.

BetaC wrote on 2024-10-23, 00:03:

Finally got my hands on a presumably fine for my CUSL2-C P3 board 1.1GHz Coppermine. […]
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Finally got my hands on a presumably fine for my CUSL2-C P3 board 1.1GHz Coppermine.

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Don't quite know if it's going to be that much better than my 1.0/133 Coppermine, but it's always nice to have the top of the line* processor for what you have.

*I know the 1133 exists, but it really doesn't lmao.

Great CPU! Always nice to have a higher multipler! 😁
A 1133 Mhz Coppermine Enginnering Sample sold on ebay in August for 125$. I didn't see the auction until a month later... big sad.

They are out there, but few and far between.

Woohoo, the PT-319A twins got here... ( Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today )Canada Post doing their usual one day to the next, "Oh yeah, maybe we've got it now" to "delivered" ninja delivery... never heard them. I am "straight down the turnpike" from their processing center though, which means a lot of stuff arrives quick when it hits there, sometime it seems to go out down the wrong strand of the web and get bumped from regional sorting to regional sorting 4 times, IDK what they're doing when that happens.

So thanks to Aleks they got here in good shape, well as good as shape as they started as known fixer uppers. Having them in hand though, the "good" one looks bad and the "bad" one looks good 🤣

What it is with the one on left in the pic is that there is humidity/water looking corrosion around chipset and some on CPU and maybe elsewhere which needs sorting out, maybe reflowing solder. Also it's missing a 2.2 microhenry inductor beside the keyboard, the other one has it, the black cylinder that isn't a cap at the bottom. The cap and inductor values are marked on the silk screen (I love this board already 🤣 ). Anyway, the right side one, the "bad" one that looked like it had the most battery damage, has had no corrosion elsewhere, and most of the copper still seems to be there, cleaned off. I might get away with just a detail cleaning and replacement of BIOS and KBC with that one... though I prolly just jinxed it 🤣

zuldan wrote on 2024-10-11, 09:31:

Got this card. Sold as “Aureal Vortex 2 SQ2500” but the SQ2500 had the B0 revision not the A2. Does anyone know what it is?

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Huh, that looks similar to my card. Except mine is green instead of black, and has a REV C sticker in the corner.

Complete 939 system for 10€
Athlon 64 X2 4800+ and 4 gigs of ram.

Grabbed this Diamond Viper VLB video card (Weitek Power P9000). I think it was the fastest card in 1993.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEwXZPzm3es

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-10-23, 06:12:

Anything that involves Editing like movies and Images, or any program that can saturate the memory bus which at 100/133Mhz isn't […]
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BetaC wrote on 2024-10-23, 04:37:

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-10-23, 04:15:

The higher FSB on the 1Ghz should by rights allow it to have an edge over the 100FSB 1.1Ghz CPU. It wont be a huge edge but it'll be noticeable for anything that wants the faster FSB and faster memory bus.

I'm curious to know what of-era software would need the higher FSB. I mean it's already overkill for most 98-2000 games, but it's interesting.

Anything that involves Editing like movies and Images, or any program that can saturate the memory bus which at 100/133Mhz isn't terribly hard even for this era of hardware and software.
DDR on P3 also had the same issue in that it still wasn't fast enough or wide enough for some software as it was limited to 266Mhz by the 133 FSB.

Tualatin once you overclock the FSB beyond 150Mhz with a DDR board will happily run circles around Rambus P4 systems which didn't really regain the advantage till 200 FSB and DDR 400 became standard and Rambus got dropped. (The only P3 boards really capable of this overclocking is any that uses the SiS 635T chipset or the few that got the Apollo Pro 266T chipset, the 635T being the fastest avaliable)

The thing is, that DDR or RAMBUS for that sake, doesn't have much of an impact on a Pentium 3 as the CPU it self can't receive or send data faster than the 133Mhz FSB.

H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-10-24, 04:07:

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-10-23, 06:12:

Anything that involves Editing like movies and Images, or any program that can saturate the memory bus which at 100/133Mhz isn't […]
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BetaC wrote on 2024-10-23, 04:37:

I'm curious to know what of-era software would need the higher FSB. I mean it's already overkill for most 98-2000 games, but it's interesting.

Anything that involves Editing like movies and Images, or any program that can saturate the memory bus which at 100/133Mhz isn't terribly hard even for this era of hardware and software.
DDR on P3 also had the same issue in that it still wasn't fast enough or wide enough for some software as it was limited to 266Mhz by the 133 FSB.

Tualatin once you overclock the FSB beyond 150Mhz with a DDR board will happily run circles around Rambus P4 systems which didn't really regain the advantage till 200 FSB and DDR 400 became standard and Rambus got dropped. (The only P3 boards really capable of this overclocking is any that uses the SiS 635T chipset or the few that got the Apollo Pro 266T chipset, the 635T being the fastest avaliable)

The thing is, that DDR or RAMBUS for that sake, doesn't have much of an impact on a Pentium 3 as the CPU it self can't receive or send data faster than the 133Mhz FSB.

Mhm which is why I talked about overclocking beyond 150FSB where DDR can have an impact, enough that P4 Wilmette was getting crushed by Tualatin, it wasn't till Northwood with DDR400 that people could see what the P4 could actually do performance wise.

zuldan wrote on 2024-10-24, 03:52:

Grabbed this Diamond Viper VLB video card (Weitek Power P9000). I think it was the fastest card in 1993.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEwXZPzm3es

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Its fast but the ET4000 and Paradise VLB cards were more DOS compatible .. that Weitek 9000 chip had compatibility issues with DOS gaming and is far better suited to Windows which its drivers are designed for.

The problem with cards like the Viper is that they're dog slow on DOS (on VGA mode which most games use at least, not sure about SVGA/high-res) since the OTI chip is used instead of the Weitek for that. Not just slow but like crappy ISA VGA slow. The primary purpose of that card is as a Windows GUI accelerator.

For 1993, a Paradise WD90C33 or Tseng ET4000/W32 are miles ahead in terms of speed and compatibility when it comes to DOS games.

Yep done a bit more research. Agreed, it’s not a great card for DOS. More of a Windows 3.1 high rez card. Oh well, it will look nice on the display shelf.

PcBytes wrote on 2024-10-23, 20:23:

Huh, that looks similar to my card. Except mine is green instead of black, and has a REV C sticker in the corner.

I figured out what the card is Bought these (retro) hardware today

Do you think your card is the same?

Mine looks like this:

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-10-23, 13:26:

But those really get you flying, make KT266 look lame, go past 266A, embarrass most of the KT333 implementations (there seem to be a lot of sucky ones) and say to nforce, knock knock, I'm in the neighbourhood you win9x incompatible poser.

nForce's Crush 17 says hi 😀

(look at Chaintech's 7NIF2 for example. I ran its BIOS on a A7N8X-VM/400 and that thing was the fastest integrated system I could run 98SE on, besides my current MSI MS-6168.)

PcBytes wrote on 2024-10-24, 09:21:

Mine looks like this: https://www.vogons.org/download/file.php?mode=view&id=204271 […]
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Mine looks like this:

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-10-23, 13:26:

But those really get you flying, make KT266 look lame, go past 266A, embarrass most of the KT333 implementations (there seem to be a lot of sucky ones) and say to nforce, knock knock, I'm in the neighbourhood you win9x incompatible poser.

nForce's Crush 17 says hi 😀

(look at Chaintech's 7NIF2 for example. I ran its BIOS on a A7N8X-VM/400 and that thing was the fastest integrated system I could run 98SE on, besides my current MSI MS-6168.)

Do you have a closer view on the chip? I’d like to see what revision it is.

zuldan wrote on 2024-10-24, 09:25:

PcBytes wrote on 2024-10-24, 09:21:

Mine looks like this: https://www.vogons.org/download/file.php?mode=view&id=204271 […]
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Mine looks like this:

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-10-23, 13:26:

But those really get you flying, make KT266 look lame, go past 266A, embarrass most of the KT333 implementations (there seem to be a lot of sucky ones) and say to nforce, knock knock, I'm in the neighbourhood you win9x incompatible poser.

nForce's Crush 17 says hi 😀

(look at Chaintech's 7NIF2 for example. I ran its BIOS on a A7N8X-VM/400 and that thing was the fastest integrated system I could run 98SE on, besides my current MSI MS-6168.)

Do you have a closer view on the chip? I’d like to see what revision it is.

The photo isn't mine, but my card's chip reads as follows:

(Vortex logo)
AU8830A2
AAPXP
9912-M1Y15

The rest of the PCB is similar to the one from the photo. Currently trying to get it working under 2k on my recent KG7-RAID purchase which finally made my Athlon 1133 T-Bird see usage 😀

Got 35 Magnetic Optical disks for 50 AUD, 30 230Mb ones and 5 640Mb ones so I spent the day cleaning and formatting them all, not a bad haul really as they tend to go for ~10 - 25 AUD NIB each for the 230 - 640 ones.

got a few Auctions on the go right now too one that is a rather nice overclocking board.

new from Russian manufacturer

Luckily I didn't order any ram for this Toshiba, it already comes with 2x1gb sticks of Hynix DDR 333mhz 2.5 cas. And apparently it won't accept 2gb. Oh well, for the specs 1gb should be absolutely fine