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First post, by Haelind

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Hello,

I have a win 98 se machine patched with the unofficial service pack 3 that will connect to the internet, and see itself but will not allow me to map the storage drive connected to my router. There is no username/password set to connect to the drive.

Have tried client for microsoft networks and windows logon each with file and print sharing checked with no luck.
Every other device I have can map it, win7, win8.1, win11, android phone.

Searched these forums and others along with youtube, even watched phil who I understand is a member here connect his win98 pc to his nas.

Can anyone tell me what I might be missing or point me to a post with the info I'm missing?

Thank you all kindly.

Reply 1 of 6, by soggi

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Welcome to VOGONS, Haelind!

This sounds like a SMB thing (see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Message_Block) - Windows 98 SE only supports SMBv1 while Win7+ support SMBv2 and higher. SMBv1 is disabled in newer products, f.e. due to security reasons. Have a look if your router supports SMBv1 and enable it (if possible and if you are firm with the risks).

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Reply 2 of 6, by Haelind

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soggi wrote on 2024-10-27, 03:57:
Welcome to VOGONS, Haelind! […]
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Welcome to VOGONS, Haelind!

This sounds like a SMB thing (see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Message_Block) - Windows 98 SE only supports SMBv1 while Win7+ support SMBv2 and higher. SMBv1 is disabled in newer products, f.e. due to security reasons. Have a look if your router supports SMBv1 and enable it (if possible and if you are firm with the risks).

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Thank you for the reply and info soggi.
The wiki was quite a read. My router does not have a setting for SMB and I am not firm in changing it if I could.

I will most likely go the middleman route of transferring files, setting up a linux box or a second bootable drive with linux on it.

I am new to posting here, not new to reading these forums. I enjoy the whole idea of retro pcs. It reminds me of the days when 20 of us would pile our pcs in the car and setup lan partys at the local fire station once a month. 8 hours of quake, unreal tournament etc was exhausting whew.
Thanks again.

Reply 3 of 6, by BitWrangler

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You can also make an extra router your middleman, because they are low power and can plug in anywhere in little space. Whatever you can get for $5 that's first gen "N" with a USB port on is a good bet for SMB 1 support, also you could have a subnet of retro machines on it.

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Reply 4 of 6, by DosFreak

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Something to keep in mind is that NetBIOS needs to be enabled on the router since it will need to be listening on TCP port 139 for filesharing and UDP 137,138 for name resolution (if not using FQDN).
You can always try just the IP address without having to bother with the computer name but you'd still need 139 enabled.

You'd also need to install the Active Directory Client Extensions and ensure this registry key exists so you can use NTLMv2

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa]
"LMCompatibility"=dword:00000003

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Reply 5 of 6, by Haelind

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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-10-27, 16:22:

You can also make an extra router your middleman, because they are low power and can plug in anywhere in little space. Whatever you can get for $5 that's first gen "N" with a USB port on is a good bet for SMB 1 support, also you could have a subnet of retro machines on it.

Thanks BitWrangler,

Hadn't thought about a router as a middleman. I am sure I have some old routers in a box around here somewhere. The subnet of retro machines is a plus. I probably have enough parts around to put together a few machines.

Reply 6 of 6, by Haelind

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DosFreak wrote on 2024-10-28, 04:46:
Something to keep in mind is that NetBIOS needs to be enabled on the router since it will need to be listening on TCP port 139 f […]
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Something to keep in mind is that NetBIOS needs to be enabled on the router since it will need to be listening on TCP port 139 for filesharing and UDP 137,138 for name resolution (if not using FQDN).
You can always try just the IP address without having to bother with the computer name but you'd still need 139 enabled.

You'd also need to install the Active Directory Client Extensions and ensure this registry key exists so you can use NTLMv2

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa]
"LMCompatibility"=dword:00000003

Thanks DosFreak,

Very much appreciate the input. I do have the Active Directory Client Extensions installed, did not have the registry entry.