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First post, by Vaudane

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Acquiring motherboard standoffs!

I know theyre an obscure part, but startech no longer sell them, aliexpress dont seem to sell them, theres a single seller in the US that doesn't ship to europe.

These little blighters:

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Anyone any idea where to get some on the european side of the pond? I can't believe there are no retro/vintage sites that seem to sell them, or my google-fu is just bad.

Reply 1 of 20, by waterbeesje

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I can feel the pain... In time I've harvested some from work out motherboard that came by cheap. So now I've got 7 or 8 spare... And I cherish theme like they're 'my precious '
If you look at the local online market places you may find way to dirty, obviously broken motherboard that still contain these.
Or some recycling company perhaps...

Stuck at 10MHz...

Reply 3 of 20, by BitWrangler

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Try things like PCB support keyhole mount

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Reply 4 of 20, by pete8475

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If you're ever in Northern Ontario I can give you some, I have tons.

Reply 5 of 20, by BitWrangler

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US single unit... https://www.bestbyte.net/plastic-motherboard- … f-at-style.html

and whoops I accidentally the spec drawing...

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 6 of 20, by Vaudane

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waterbeesje wrote on 2024-11-11, 21:58:

I can feel the pain... In time I've harvested some from work out motherboard that came by cheap. So now I've got 7 or 8 spare... And I cherish theme like they're 'my precious '
If you look at the local online market places you may find way to dirty, obviously broken motherboard that still contain these.
Or some recycling company perhaps...

If I had 7 I could at least complete my build. Gah.

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-11-11, 22:01:

Try things like PCB support keyhole mount

OH! This looks promising, thank you!

Shponglefan wrote on 2024-11-11, 21:59:

Is it possible to get these 3D printed?

Honestly that's the direction I've been thinking of going in (at least until googling the previous reply...) only problem is anything like this I've ever 3d printed before has ended up broken (tried doing retention clips for a Lian Li PC-60 a few years ago for example).

pete8475 wrote on 2024-11-11, 22:06:

If you're ever in Northern Ontario I can give you some, I have tons.

<3

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-11-11, 22:21:

US single unit... https://www.bestbyte.net/plastic-motherboard- … f-at-style.html

and whoops I accidentally the spec drawing...

😳 Do they ship to Europe?

Reply 7 of 20, by Major Jackyl

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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-11-11, 22:21:

US single unit... https://www.bestbyte.net/plastic-motherboard- … f-at-style.html

and whoops I accidentally the spec drawing...

Whoops, using the spec drawing you provided, I ended up with these:

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My printer is not precise enough for the job, so I made one that imprecision would be acceptable: one with a screw hole. Those work good, right?
If anyone prints these, lets us know how they work. I found them very difficult to print due to the size.

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Reply 8 of 20, by darry

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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-11-11, 22:21:

US single unit... https://www.bestbyte.net/plastic-motherboard- … f-at-style.html

and whoops I accidentally the spec drawing...

Nice!

Hopefully, metal standoffs in a combo with screws and hex nuts can be found with the proper dimensions to use in lieu of these.

Reply 9 of 20, by Horun

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darry wrote on 2024-11-12, 03:51:
BitWrangler wrote on 2024-11-11, 22:21:

US single unit... https://www.bestbyte.net/plastic-motherboard- … f-at-style.html

and whoops I accidentally the spec drawing...

Nice!

Hopefully, metal standoffs in a combo with screws and hex nuts can be found with the proper dimensions to use in lieu of these.

Do you remember when you bought a new case back in 90's and 2000's they had a little baggy with those brass screw-in and nylon board standoffs ? I snagged a bunch over the years but sorta wish had grabbed more....

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun

Reply 10 of 20, by BitWrangler

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Some of them had a tiny box with feet, screws, standoffs, and a stick on cable hold-down for the PSU cable.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 11 of 20, by Horun

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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-11-12, 04:24:

Some of them had a tiny box with feet, screws, standoffs, and a stick on cable hold-down for the PSU cable.

I remember those little white boxes, wow showing my age 🤣

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun

Reply 12 of 20, by Vaudane

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Major Jackyl wrote on 2024-11-12, 03:04:
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You've got me thinking now, with that screwhole jobby. Could these be quite easily turned in brass? Or even just brass rod with a centre threading in M3, and use a washer to attach it to the rear of the case.

Would have the added extra benefit of additional EMI grounding points.

HMMM.

edit: tried to edit this comment and posted it twice more. Whoops!

Reply 13 of 20, by Ryccardo

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Hadn't seen them in quite a while but I've found quite a bit in my garage 😀

However I'm always short on the imperial (motherboard/3.5 HDD) screws that no mainstream hardware store (as in hammers and paints) carries 😐 and of course I CBA to buy a five or 50 pack online, got some free (!) from my favorite "local" computer store but got some funny looks asking for those…

Reply 14 of 20, by PARKE

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Not sure if these guys ship internationally but it should be possible to make some arrangement via Vogons members ? Seems easier than DIY. https://store.cwc-group.com/15standoff.html

Reply 15 of 20, by majinga

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Major Jackyl wrote on 2024-11-12, 03:04:

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Whoops, using the spec drawing you provided, I ended up with these:
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I tried to print them.

I like the screw version. It can definitely be use as replacement. Good work.
While the other one, with the self retaining clip, is too hard to print, at least for me. It broke immediately.

Reply 17 of 20, by BitWrangler

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Original are in nylon/polyamide so yeah small spring clips might not be real successful in other plastics. To get some that work in PLA or such, you might need to redesign the clip to be semicircular post one side and a thicker single leaf the other. Though I've broken originals before also.

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Reply 18 of 20, by BitWrangler

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Dorunkāku wrote on 2024-11-13, 15:45:

That looks pretty reasonable for Euro-Vogons.

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Reply 19 of 20, by majinga

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But I have to pay 14€ of shipping. Plus the site don't have any translation option, so definitely not easy to deal with.
This stuff is available here an there, but for who can, can be handy to print some spare by self.